Challenged but rarely broken. And yes do not try to leave her with zip. That is not the point of a prenup.

I never got a prenup, then again my wife and I also waited 9 years to get married, so after that much time, I definately knew that we were meant to be. I guess I was right because we've now been married for just about 7 years :)

For those of you that are rushing into marriage after a year or two, I could see a bigger risk where you might want one, since in a lifelong relationship, that's not a lot of time, but if you can just push your marriage off longer to REALLY make sure it's meant to be, then maybe you might not need one either :)

What usually starts out with harmony, trust, lotsa love and incredible sex, has a good chance of turning sour and latest when you start thinking about splitting ways, even relationships become business deals. Attorneys get paid, division of assets, allocation of funds, associated debt will be assigned, etc. So, when you compare the last line to the first line - it's Love vs. Business. In the end, no one on this planet would consider a partnership in a business without contractual/prenup backup. Which is pretty much your answer.
Trust me, not having one was a VERY costly mistake for me...i'd definitely advise to get one drawn up.
Is there a way to present it nicely? Yeah, because each and every benefit or profit is a nice thing, thus, when it comes straight down to it, it's for her and your protection, benefit and safety. Unless she can assure you that it will NEVER come to a split, which no rational person can do, she's probably going to see your point.
*lecture end* :winkwink:

It all depends if you *really* know the person before you get married - whether you need a prenup.
When my first broke up after 15 years (we'd known each other for five years before we got married) - we just went through everything and said "this is mine, this is yours" - it took about an hour and not a single argument. Exactly what I expected, from knowing her so well even before we got married. We then got a do-it-yourself divorce for $110, and after it was finalized in court we went out to lunch before I drove her back to work.
This time around (not with the same person lol), we've been together for eight years (and have known each other for ten years) so I'm also not concerned.
But without that history - I'd be drawing up the prenup as we speak lol

Is it possible to have in a prenup something like:

If the split is initiated by her before 10 years is up, then she doesnt get shit. If the split is initiated by either party after 10 years of married life has elapsed, then she gets $5k.

Can you do something like this? I realise $5k is probably too much but you get the idea :1orglaugh

Prenups are smart, but they should be fair. Most likely you will be willing to give her more now, than you would when you are pissed off and divorced. I think it would make divorce a whole lot easier, if you take out the fight over money. You may even be able to stay friends after.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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i don't plan on my house burning down, but that doesn't mean i don't get homeowners insurance.

Marriage is the way a man proves he loves his woman, signing a prenup is the way a woman proves she loves her man.

this is a good quote

Seriously? Mixed on this....

If you go into a marriage asking for a prenuptial, that is like saying that it will fail right from the start...

however, I would want to protect my assets too...

so... I guess it's a good thing I am not planning on getting married... I have been with my woman for 11 years, why fuck up a good thing?

I have already told my current girlfriend that if we get married ever we're using a prenup.. I actually tell her this everytime she picks up her pay check ;)

Hate the idea of not being able to trust people - whether a marital situation, biz partner or whatever, but - reality is that life can change and have surprises.

Suppose a pre-nup depends on circumstances - eg if you have built up assets prior to a marriage and these may involve business situations where damage could be caused because of a divorce, it may be wise to consult on a pre-nup agreement.

The object is not to ripoff a partner - simply to secure assets which may have existed prior to marriage and got no problem sharing in all assets accquired during a marriage.

The other extreme is people who are very wealthy - pre-nups are not an option.

I think a lot of factors come into play. Very complex, touchy subject. Also depends on where you live (legal wise). If you have substantial assets/money consult an attorney. It's not about the money right? Write it so that over the long term she will be taken care of, for example.
Me personally I think, if she gives you shit NO GOOD. If she discusses, that's different.
Though one ;) but times have changed.

Writing that one down :winkwink:

why are you marrying her if you dont trust her?

thats why im wavering back and forth on this one...


do i trust her?? hehe..just kidding. i trust her...but people change over time. u never really know

people change over time. u never really know :thumbsup:Oh crap