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Aliens DONT Exist - I'll Prove It
Ok first of all, I don't mean life on another planet, life on another plant almost certainly exists. I mean aliens in the commercial green man abduction ufo red neck appearing alien. I base the opinion that aliens do not exist on one simple fact: we have telescopes that can see billions and billions and billions and billions of miles into space, yet we fail to see UFO's or aliens who come so frequently to our plant to abduct crack heads and red necks.
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we cant see UFOs couse they are too fast .....
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We see them on earth? Theres no way something could travel at the speed of light through our earths atmosphere without going largely unnoticed. You could say they were invisible but that would disprove eveyr UFO sighting on the internet. We have made a meterial which can bend light and make somehting appear invisible so if the aliens were so technologically advanced they should of done the same.
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OK, it is time for some Logic 101.
You don't prove something does NOT exist. You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof rests on the shoulders of the person claiming something DOES exist. |
Take a look at the video UFO: The greatest story ever denied, and then research the disclosure project. The even show you that there are giant life forms on this earth that have not yet been discovered. It will change your perception, I guarantee it!
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If you can't see them, how can you prove they exist? |
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i can prove they are real to you.. and i can make tem force you to do things..
if aliens are not real , they cant FORCE you to keep posting on gfy but if they are real they can FORCE you telepathically to post on gfy.. so to prove me wrong , never use the internet again.. if they are real , and my bet is they are real , we will see you again because you were forced to by aliens, now you will say you werent forced that you just wanted to but dont kid yourself you were forced.. thats just what they want you to believe |
Tzolkin I've watched hundreds of such videos that will apparently change my mind usually posted by people saying "OMG THIS IS PROOF FOR ALIENS" and every time I've watched the video and laughed at how stupid you would have to be to believe some of the stuff. Especially the videos of "aliens" themselves :P. But I'll watch the video you said now just to see ;)
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Aliens DO exist and will destroy this planet by 2010 if you don't act to stop them. How can you stop them? By electing Bill Richardson of course! Bill Richardson's comprehension defense plan to stop hostile alien threats would prevent aliens from invading by offering them all the delicious tacos and burritos they can eat. In exchange, the aliens will gladly leave us alone. A vote for Bill Richardson is a vote for protecting America from hostile invading aliens!
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i still believe UFO and aliens exist...
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Well didn't watch it all just the first part about the invisible UFO's, when it started playing random news feeds I got bored and turned it off. Quite interesting but I don't see how you can regard any of it as proof, most of the clips are just anonymous round "planets" with flaming meteor looking things going around them. Any of those video's could have been easily hoaxed with considerable video editing experience. I won't trust such vague videos and I think its foolish to do so. I would of thought we were evolved enough to not put so much faith in grainy videos, interviews from 50 years ago and unclear videos of "aliens" which look like papier mache.
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This thread is gonna be a big one...:)
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"billions and billions and billions and billions of miles into space"
Thats not nearly far enough. |
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Your argument is retarded. Go get a telescope and try to follow an airplane which is much slower than an UFO would be. Good luck. Also even with the Hubble Telescope, Pluto which is about the size of the moon is nothing more than a mere dot. So a UFO the size of the moon would be barely visable with the Hubble from a distance of only 4 billion miles. The nearest star is 6000 times further. If there is intelligent life flying around the galaxy doesn't mean they're coming here. Especially if they've been paying attention to our TV broadcasts for the last 60 years. |
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Pluto distance from sun 4,000,000,000 miles light year 5.88 TRILLION miles = 5,880,000,000,000 nearest star 4.2 light years or 25 TRILLION miles = 25,000,000,000,000 25,000,000,000,000 MUCH bigger than 1,000,000,000 |
"we have telescopes that can see billions and billions and billions and billions of miles into space, yet we fail to see UFO's or aliens who come so frequently to our plant to abduct crack heads and red necks." who says we dont see them?
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you can not prove a negitive this thread is worthless
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So Santa can possibly exist then? |
i have seen one before...a small alien at my backyard
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But in most cases (like these ridiculous UFO claims), the arguer is often affirming the consequent. And, like any argument it is just as likely to fall victim to GIGO. A syllogism can still be valid but nevertheless untrue. If one premise is untrue the whole thing is false. |
nice thread bro!!
where's your proof by the way??.. |
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crikey....you guys are wankers for aliens
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Crop Circles Therefore, Aliens. |
At the risk of repeating myself here...
(U)nidentified (F)lying (O)bjects most certainly exist.... because if it's maintaining altitude, and you don't know what it is, it's a UFO. Sorry, it just sounds really backwards to me when people debate whether or not "UFO's exist"... Whether or not life forms alien to this planet are piloting those UFO's... well, feel free to debate that until you're satisfied one way or the other. Personally, I don't think we're nearly interesting enough to warrant the attention. |
That is proof of nothing. Even if you took all the satelites on earth and the ones we have in space we STILL are only able to watch a fraction of whats going on in space around us. How many times have you heard all of a sudden they just found an asteriod hurtling towards us and it wasn't seen till it was almost on top of us and then it passes. Fast, just like that. :2 cents:
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Think about it, what do we do as soon as we develop new technology? Most times we try to figure out how we can use it to blow shit up or kill other humans. We usually destroy what we don't like or what we dont understand. If they do exist I can see why they wouldnt want to make contact... |
yeah okkkkk
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As Stephen Hawking pointed out, throughout the history of mankind, every time one civilization has met another, death and destruction have often resulted - and we're of the same species. If we happened upon another intelligent life form from another planet, the results could be disastrous. Guess it goes both ways. |
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Also, even if Aliens are travelling the stars, how do you know for sure that a telescope could even see their crafts travelling in the first place? You do know that they supposedly run on anti-gravity propulsion systems right? Well if that is true then their method of travel is by stretching/warping/manipulating space by the use of gravity waves. So if this is the case you wouldn't be able to "see" them because they are distorting the light/space/time around them... |
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Let's say we engage your fantasy notion that such a craft could be built to attain such speeds, you're still talking about at least a generation or two going by before the spacecraft reaches its destination. In terms of aliens coming HERE, that would be like finding a needle in the haystack. Think about it: to come here requires knowing that HERE is a destination worth coming to. The "aliens" would have to: a) Be capable of constructing a craft capable of travel at light speed b) Large enough to hold whatever fuel powers such a craft over such long distances c) Large enough to house the food and other sustenance necessary for such long distance travel d) Large enough to hold the staff necessary to make such long distance travel. e) and finally KNOW we even exist as a destination to visit. The whole thing is totally fucking preposterous. I'd sooner believe in God than aliens visiting us from hundreds of light years away. |
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I don't care what gibberish you heard on Coast to Coast AM. You said that aliens are using antigravity propulsion. Antigravity does NOT mean negative gravity. Even in theoretical physics, antigravity propulsion is only thought to be capable of light-speed travel.
If you want to try arguing for some sort of superliminal travel through spacetime, by all means do so, but antigravity propulsion ain't it. |
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So, assuming that all they needed was to be as advanced as ours, the least they would have done is sent a response if they existed, right? So where is it? Quote:
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Now, multiply that for the FEW HUNDRED light years it is likely to take to get to the nearest planet supporting life. That's where I got the "a few generations" statement. Quote:
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Here schneeman I'll help you get started: http://users.skynet.be/bob.lazar/www...d/gravity.html
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The mere fact that you refer to an utter quackjob like Lazar as an authority on anything calls everything you say into suspect. EVERYTHING written on antigravity, from Einstein to Felber discusses it as a means for "near lightspeed" travel. Antigravity propulsion is NOT capable of supraliminal travel. Antigravity is the overcoming of the force of gravity, not a reversal of it. |
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