Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 12372685)

Here schneeman I'll help you get started: http://users.skynet.be/bob.lazar/www...d/gravity.html

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372730)

The mere fact that you refer to an utter quackjob like Lazar as an authority on anything calls everything you say into suspect.

EVERYTHING written on antigravity, from Einstein to Felber discusses it as a means for "near lightspeed" travel. Antigravity propulsion is NOT capable of supraliminal travel. Antigravity is the overcoming of the force of gravity, not a reversal of it.

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 12372745)

Utter quackjob? He worked at S-4 inside Area51 helping to reverse engineer the crafts... I think he would know how they work...

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372784)

So, exactly how many times has he travelled to another universe? I mean, if he says its so simple, and he's figured out how to make his ununpentium stuff, surely he's gone out and proved it, right?

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372663)

And has anyone responded?
So, assuming that all they needed was to be as advanced as ours, the least they would have done is sent a response if they existed, right? So where is it?

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372663)

Why don't you go ahead and run some numbers on exactly how much fuel a nuclear fusion based propulsion device would need to send an object the size of the space shuttle to a distance of a few hundred light years?

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372663)

Actually, four light years, travelling at light speed is about 7 months.
Now, multiply that for the FEW HUNDRED light years it is likely to take to get to the nearest planet supporting life. That's where I got the "a few generations" statement.

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372663)

Any living being requires fuel. That's what food is, afterall. Yes, that amount of fuel varies according to the size, species, and activity level of the organism but it is still needed and therefore must be stored.

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 12372825)

The sad part is our government sits on this fucking technology that could end dependence on oil and all that shit... but no one seems to give a fuck that they still keep all this crap a secret...

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372884)

Its all a big conspiracy driven by the Illuminati!
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 12372900)

Wtf are you laughing about? You have proven multiple times in this thread that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about...

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372980)

I'm laughing at you. You cite well known kooks like Bob Lazar and John Lear as supposed authorities on this shit and expect to be taken seriously, then you make statements like the government is sitting on all this awesome alien technology. You're clearly out of touch with reality.

When you find someone OTHER THAN a regular guest on Coast to Coast AM to substantiate what you're saying, then you can take the plastic sheets off your bed and come talk to the big boys.

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 12372978)

/\ Yea, because posting a picture of some fictional character is just so relevent to the discussion right? lol...

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 12372986)

Do some research on John Lear's life and bio. If he isn't a credible person then I don't know who is...

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 12372986)

No one else seems to care about our little argument, so if you want to continue it hit me up on icq 200843428. Let's not waste GFY's bandwidth anymore...

Originally Posted by schneemann (Post 12372526)

Apparently you don't know much about who uses high powered telescopes and where. You somehow assume that they're all used by the government or NASA.



Long distance space travel would most assuredly require an extremely fast vehicle. No object can travel faster than the speed of light. The nearest star is 4 light years away and the nearest star capable of supporting life is probably HUNDREDS of light years away.

Let's say we engage your fantasy notion that such a craft could be built to attain such speeds, you're still talking about at least a generation or two going by before the spacecraft reaches its destination. In terms of aliens coming HERE, that would be like finding a needle in the haystack. Think about it: to come here requires knowing that HERE is a destination worth coming to.

The "aliens" would have to:
a) Be capable of constructing a craft capable of travel at light speed
b) Large enough to hold whatever fuel powers such a craft over such long distances
c) Large enough to house the food and other sustenance necessary for such long distance travel
d) Large enough to hold the staff necessary to make such long distance travel.
e) and finally KNOW we even exist as a destination to visit.

The whole thing is totally fucking preposterous. I'd sooner believe in God than aliens visiting us from hundreds of light years away.

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 12372792)

You obviously don't read anything. Element 115 is not abundant in our solar system!!! It isn't a stable element here on it's own!

The aliens didnt give some Element 115 to Lazar himself dummy, they gave it to the Government. Lazar was just a pawn... just another worker...