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who 02-06-2007 03:38 PM

Is $10k enough to start a profitable program?
 
See subj.

What would be a basic lower limit on how much it would cost to start up a new program with a couple of new sites?

polish_aristocrat 02-06-2007 03:41 PM

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96ukssob 02-06-2007 03:42 PM

i dont think $10k, unless you plan on buying super saturated content. probably like $25k or so imo

BoyAlley 02-06-2007 03:42 PM

I assume we'd be talking about a program whose sites were all licensed content? If that's the case, sure why not.

DirtyProfits 02-06-2007 03:43 PM

double up to $20k, then maybe yes

who 02-06-2007 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11872121)
I assume we'd be talking about a program whose sites were all licensed content? If that's the case, sure why not.

It'd have to be, wouldn't it.

Violetta 02-06-2007 03:45 PM

I started out with a bit less, but slowly builded it up spitting in every dime I made over the last 1,5-2 years and counting...

But it hasn't been very profitable because of that. Always need more content and design. Hosting and reps :( expensive stuff

Fizzgig 02-06-2007 03:45 PM

I think I can honestly say:

who's asking?
:1orglaugh

seeric 02-06-2007 03:49 PM

750k minimum to do it right and make something worth pushing. IMHO.

Sveindt Beindt 02-06-2007 03:50 PM

Good luck :thumbsup

shahab6 02-06-2007 03:51 PM

more than a enought

xNetworx 02-06-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 11872156)
750k minimum to do it right and make something worth pushing. IMHO.

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

who 02-06-2007 03:53 PM

So people are basically saying that yes, you can do it on $10k and turn a profit, however it will be just another one of these cheap, annoying, and shitty little programs. Hmm. 'Worth pushing'... From what perspective do you mean?

BlackCrayon 02-06-2007 04:02 PM

i very much doubt you could do something that great with 10k, if you are talking about an affiliate program and everything. im looking into starting a couple paysites myself but no affiliate program. hoping i can pull it off for about 30-40k.

edgeprod 02-06-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn (Post 11872176)
I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

DamageX 02-06-2007 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn (Post 11872176)
I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

Me too. :)

Nismo 02-06-2007 04:14 PM

$10k to build a paysite = Yes.
$10k to build a successful paysite = Hell no.

alredy1 02-06-2007 04:15 PM

i think x4-5

JD 02-06-2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11872291)
Me too. :)

same. :) I've got 800k that I can spend so let's hear the break down:pimp

Nicky 02-06-2007 04:21 PM

Ofcourse it can be done. It depends on how much work you put into it, maybe start with 1 paysite, have it on ccbill or verotel, get a few affiliates, push it hard with your own traffic and tweak lots to make it convert and retain(good and regular members area content updates). Expand as the profit grows. No job for a lazy man thats for sure but it can be done....

collegeboobies 02-06-2007 04:22 PM

Depends on who you are

nico-t 02-06-2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 11872276)
$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

hahaha sounds like a solid plan :pimp :pimp

the alchemist 02-06-2007 04:29 PM

Sure it's enough... if you want to start a copy/paste program like 99% of the other ones out there with paysites and ad tools that doesn't make any sense with overexposed content and no updates whatsoever.

How many paysites are you looking to build? Are you going to use NATS? Do you shoot your own content? Do you have to hire people to do everything for you because you have no clue (like 99% of the other ones out there)... There's many factors that comes into play here but remember, money doesn't mean anything at all without work, efforts and brains.

crockett 02-06-2007 04:29 PM

I'd say sure you could build a paysite but not a profitable one. If you're in the US you automatically lose $750 to visa just to get started. I would say it could be done in 1 of two ways.

Number 1 you get a really good deal on content.

Number 2 you happen to be fucking your content.. Meaning she's your G/F or wife.

Then there is always number 3 but I wouldn't go down that road but you could partner up with the content.

Rochard 02-06-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 11872276)
$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

This sounds like a great plan!

vvq 02-06-2007 04:38 PM

take the 10k and outsource some designers. you'll make more submitting galleries than trying to launch a program with 10k.

EscortBiz 02-06-2007 04:38 PM

you will lose your 10k guaranteed

Nubiles 02-06-2007 04:43 PM

I would say $100k - $200k

sharp 02-06-2007 04:48 PM

I think you can do much more profitable things with $10k. Even if you were just simply buying tgp submitters or buying traffic I think you'd make more doing that than with a $10k start up program.

Sosa 02-06-2007 04:54 PM

going to take alot more then that

Doctor Dre 02-06-2007 04:58 PM

You are competing with programs that spend 10x more then that... per site...

billybathgate 02-06-2007 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 11872276)
$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting

-------------:thumbsup

triumph 02-06-2007 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn (Post 11872176)
I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

me too! thats a decent sized number.

King of Queens 02-06-2007 05:34 PM

Flip your 10k several times in the niche
your going into.

Sure there are plenty of sites already
to work with.

Hone your marketing skills. Document
every thing.

Track how long it take you to double
your 10k. Then beat that record.

See whats in your control from the
marketing side that trigger the response
rate your looking for.

Once you've doubled your 10k several
times I would consider investing starting
your own paysite.

Do you know the name of your first pay
site? Get it out there now.

Get tons of niche traffic coming in with
out doing link exchanges or using traffic
trade scripts.

Who you'll benefit from it later.

Just keep in mind that quality content,
retaining customers cost and that's not
even the beginning.

Take your time, flip your start up cap &
do it right the first time.

Boobzooka 02-06-2007 07:02 PM

DareRing started with 3 videos I made for less than $2K. Even if I add the cost of the camera, the VISA fee, the vbulletin licence, help wanted ads, etc, that's still less than half your suggested budget. Yeah, it took time to develop, but our forum grew, we picked up some affiliates, I reinvested what we made into more games ... now we're shooting regularly and averaging $1K/day in signups. That's a hell of a ROI.

edgeprod 02-06-2007 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 11872335)
same. :) I've got 800k that I can spend so let's hear the break down:pimp

"k" means thousand. :1orglaugh

reynold 02-06-2007 08:55 PM

If you ALREADY have a big pool of converting traffic and your program is optimized for your traffic source, $10K should be enough.

JD 02-06-2007 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 11873563)
"k" means thousand. :1orglaugh

lol yeah i know :winkwink:

edgeprod 02-06-2007 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 11873756)
lol yeah i know :winkwink:

That was a joke .. say "haha" :1orglaugh

minusonebit 02-06-2007 09:47 PM

I think plenty of people started themselves off with far less...


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