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rankscom 07-12-2005 05:08 PM

Marc Womak & Rick Latona - Give me a break!!!!!
 
This isn't meant to cause unecessary drama... this is a serious accusation and it got me boiled to the point where I want it to be exposed!!

Since I don't post much, I'm Rick M (formerly RickYNOT), founder and owner of The Best Porn: http://www.thebestporn.com/ ... I've advertised on CJ (with Womak) in the past, and have done a lot of domain business with Latona in the past. Hell, I even attended one of the "Dollars.com" demos because I respected Latona so much.

Recently I visited your new review site PornSavvy.com, which was posted/linked from CJ. I found a few similarities to our site (pros/cons text format, review highlight text format, site facts with same format, etc). We've been imitated by many other review sites, and usually I don't say anything. I even would have exchanged links, and never said a word. I don't worry about little stuff.

However, today I found other more blatant copyright infringement. I'll post screen captures if I need to, but I'll let the initial GFY crowd see for themself:

1. Stolen Avatars
- http://www.pornsavvy.com/review.php?reviews_id=216 (Scroll to 2nd review, Spencer's icon is from our site)
- http://www.pornsavvy.com/review.php?reviews_id=218 (Scroll to 1st review, Vanessa's icon is from our site)
*I noted that in the image url your icons are "temp", but bottom line is it's still copyright infringement.

2. Same Profiles
- http://vanessa.thebestporn.com/ (our site)
- http://www.pornsavvy.com/staff.php (porn savvy's interpretation)

3. Text Copy
-"Our team works hard to ensure fair and accurate reviews. To view their profile, click their respective icon."
top of http://www.pornsavvy.com/staff.php , taken from top of http://www.thebestporn.com/home.html .

I'll let the GFY audience judge how bad this is...

I never wanted to rain on your parade of the new review site, and honestly I was looking forward to the launch. I'm good friends with a lot of other review site owners, and enjoy the friendly competition. I'm pretty upset by what I've seen so far, but I'll hold any other judgements until I hear from you. Please post your response.

Rick M

mardigras 07-12-2005 05:13 PM

Rick doesn't build the web pages, so any misconduct would be an employee.

Joesho 07-12-2005 05:14 PM

How does one go about getting their paysite listed on a review site? ( I will stay out of this thread), I just saw your post and wanted to know if you have time please icq me at 174842541 or E-Mail [email protected]

Thank you.

rankscom 07-12-2005 05:16 PM

Hi Joe, it's really easy to get a review with us:
http://www.thebestporn.com/webmasters/

if u have any questions, e-mail us and we'll answer you within 24 hrs.

Mutt 07-12-2005 05:17 PM

quick! pull out the ROGUE EMPLOYEE excuse from the filing cabinet fast! it's right in front of the ROGUE AFFILIATE excuse - you can't miss it!

JMM 07-12-2005 05:19 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I just HAVE to laugh, sorry Rick.

This surprises you?

You are talking about people who have made their money with other peoples content, usually without permission.

Of course, that is just my opinion.

rankscom 07-12-2005 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras
Rick doesn't build the web pages, so any misconduct would be an employee.

Regardless, it's still his responsibility. I don't know his direct involvement, but I would assume you're accurate.

Mutt 07-12-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras
Rick doesn't build the web pages, so any misconduct would be an employee.

yes exactly - a ROGUE employee. everybody has their hands filled with them.

MaDalton 07-12-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
quick! pull out the ROGUE EMPLOYEE excuse from the filing cabinet fast! it's right in front of the ROGUE AFFILIATE excuse - you can't miss it!

:1orglaugh :helpme

wjxxx 07-12-2005 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
quick! pull out the ROGUE EMPLOYEE excuse from the filing cabinet fast! it's right in front of the ROGUE AFFILIATE excuse - you can't miss it!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Art Del Gado 07-12-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
quick! pull out the ROGUE EMPLOYEE excuse from the filing cabinet fast! it's right in front of the ROGUE AFFILIATE excuse - you can't miss it!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

oh thats good..


sorry to hear about this rick .. hope you can get it resolved

Pleasurepays 07-12-2005 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
yes exactly - a ROGUE employee. everybody has their hands filled with them.

well.... they only seem to pop up after the fact. my observation has always been that everyone has "excellent employees" who are the stars of the industry and only suddenly have a "rogue employee that will be dealt with accordingly" when cornered and confronted with incriminating proof of wrong doing.

Barefootsies 07-12-2005 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
quick! pull out the ROGUE EMPLOYEE excuse from the filing cabinet fast! it's right in front of the ROGUE AFFILIATE excuse - you can't miss it!


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Priceless!!

:rasta

Joesho 07-12-2005 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rankscom
Hi Joe, it's really easy to get a review with us:
http://www.thebestporn.com/webmasters/

if u have any questions, e-mail us and we'll answer you within 24 hrs.

Thank you

Mutt 07-12-2005 05:28 PM

jesus man, how many ways can a designer draw a guy with glasses named Spencer? you're really reaching here - just another hata.

http://www.pornsavvy.com/writer/avatar/temp1.gif
http://www.thebestporn.com/icons/edi...ncer_small.gif

fris 07-12-2005 05:31 PM

thebestporn.com has been my favourite review site for sages, always top notch in my book :)

heh funny enough as soon as i posted the japan puke file on cutejapan.com 1 day later it ended up on cj ;)

one thing i find is cute. how all these funny video sites watermark their content like they actually own it.

:)

just my :2 cents:

shermo 07-12-2005 05:32 PM

Wow.. That is a strange coincidence. :(

I hope this is fixed before it becomes too big of an issue.

Rick.. What part of Henderson are you from? Hit me up on ICQ sometime to chat. :D

Muff 07-12-2005 05:35 PM

thebestporn.com traffic rocks. Hope this gets sorted out.

Mutt 07-12-2005 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

one thing i find is cute. how all these funny video sites watermark their content like they actually own it.

well all those videos and photos on Consumption Junction are SUBMITTED to Consumption Junction by surfers - ROGUE surfers - ROGUE surfers who watermark their videos with the Consumption Junction watermark. You can't really blame them for over zealous surfers, not much they can do about the actions of others.

Janet Reno 07-12-2005 05:41 PM

most people in this industry cheat and steal their way to the top, why should Latona be any different?

cummins 07-12-2005 05:44 PM

Rick M.,

This is real bummer and I?m totally empathetic. I will lend you the same advice that you gave me when someone ripped off our last site, ClimaxCorner. ?In this industry someone is always going to steal your ideas, you can?t stop them. The only way that you can beat them is to continue to innovate.? I don?t know what improvements you are currently working on but I?m sure whatever they are that CJ could steal your whole site and they still couldn?t compete with you. It doesn?t make it right, but you get the idea.

As for CJ, I think that it?s really a classless move and totally below a company that is profitable, has money to reinvest into their company, and can easily afford to pay someone to come up with some original ideas, especially at Filipino rates:-). You would expect this from a newbie, but I think that it?s totally unacceptable from an established company in the industry, one that is trying to be a leader. It?s so freaking easy to make money in this industry by playing it straight, I don?t understand why anyone needs to resort to cheating and stealing.

I really hope that there is an explanation for this?

WiredGuy 07-12-2005 05:45 PM

Have you tried talking to Rick / CJ before posting this?
WG

fris 07-12-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
well all those videos and photos on Consumption Junction are SUBMITTED to Consumption Junction by surfers - ROGUE surfers - ROGUE surfers who watermark their videos with the Consumption Junction watermark. You can't really blame them for over zealous surfers, not much they can do about the actions of others.


ya someone posted the url to the japan video with my url on gfy, i just found it funny it ended up on cj 24 hours later :)

not that i give a shit anyway.

fris 07-12-2005 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Have you tried talking to Rick / CJ before posting this?
WG


i think they have something out these days called email, i have tried using it a couple times. its kinda neat

Hardlinks 07-12-2005 05:55 PM

Why should he keep this hidden in private email.

They blatently ripped off his site.

Nice and classy fellas.

BTW i see your site listed on scriptlance all the time with people using it as "example" of what they want done.

Elli 07-12-2005 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muff
thebestporn.com traffic rocks. Hope this gets sorted out.

hear, hear!

rankscom 07-12-2005 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Have you tried talking to Rick / CJ before posting this?
WG

I considered contacting them privately, but as I stated I was too pissed off not to expose it. Can you blame me? If I settled it by e-mail, they would never be held responsible. Getting a response on GFY will also give me a better chance of getting an honest answer.

simple simon 07-12-2005 06:01 PM

Why be surprised by someone who scams on a daily basis to make it to the top, and all you still kiss ricks ass. Pathetic

uowememoney 07-12-2005 06:01 PM

The problem is that Rick has been very busy blowing money from people that invested in dollars.com
If my information is correct he blew over $400.000.

He still owes me money!

jimmyf 07-12-2005 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
well.... they only seem to pop up after the fact. my observation has always been that everyone has "excellent employees" who are the stars of the industry and only suddenly have a "rogue employee that will be dealt with accordingly" when cornered and confronted with incriminating proof of wrong doing.

this is true :1orglaugh

Pipecrew 07-12-2005 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uowememoney
The problem is that Rick has been very busy blowing money from people that invested in dollars.com
If my information is correct he blew over $400.000.

He still owes me money!

He stated in the closing down thread everyone would be refunded and I'am sure he will.

uowememoney 07-12-2005 06:07 PM

bump for rick!

Rick Latona 07-12-2005 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras
Rick doesn't build the web pages, so any misconduct would be an employee.

Damn straight and this is a terminating offense. Let me look into it.

Rick, you could have contacted me first.

D-Money 07-12-2005 07:11 PM

Sig placement?

Best of luck to you guys in a quick resolution.

xxxdesign-net 07-12-2005 07:13 PM

Some Filipino will get fired... :Oh crap

Rick Latona 07-12-2005 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rankscom
I considered contacting them privately, but as I stated I was too pissed off not to expose it. Can you blame me? If I settled it by e-mail, they would never be held responsible. Getting a response on GFY will also give me a better chance of getting an honest answer.

Honestly Rick. I'm a bit pissed myself. We just built the fucking site. It's only been live for a couple of days. The guys that built it are on the other side of the world. They fucked up and anyone that wants to laugh about the rouge employee excuss can blow me. People will lose their jobs over this and possibly an entire department head. You should have contacted me after all the business we've done. This is the last post I'm going to make in this thread. Marc's in charge of traffic and will hopefully take it from here.

JFK 07-12-2005 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona
Damn straight and this is a terminating offense. Let me look into it.

Rick, you could have contacted me first.

Rick is on the Job :pimp

jonesy 07-12-2005 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
quick! pull out the ROGUE EMPLOYEE excuse from the filing cabinet fast! it's right in front of the ROGUE AFFILIATE excuse - you can't miss it!

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

jonesy 07-12-2005 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

The guys that built it are on the other side of the world. They fucked up .

gotta love outsourcing to save a buck .... :1orglaugh

DateDoc 07-12-2005 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona
Honestly Rick. I'm a bit pissed myself. We just built the fucking site. It's only been live for a couple of days. The guys that built it are on the other side of the world. They fucked up and anyone that wants to laugh about the rouge employee excuss can blow me. People will lose their jobs over this and possibly an entire department head. You should have contacted me after all the business we've done. This is the last post I'm going to make in this thread. Marc's in charge of traffic and will hopefully take it from here.

I wonder who reviewed the site before it was published to make sure it was good to go? :2 cents:


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