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azguy 06-27-2005 04:49 PM

The Master Cleanser Diet - I'm starting tomorrow
 
I know people who lost ~ 10-20 pounds in just 2 weeks. Not to mention the high energy levels they have afterwards - among many other improvements.

I'm following the original book - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...43021?v=glance

Read about it here: http://curezone.com/cleanse/bowel/master_cleanse.asp

"The Master Cleanser diet/fast otherwise known as the lemonade diet (lemonade fast) has been around close to 50 years. It's the easiest way to give a rest to your digestive organs, and, together with salt water flush, to achieve effective cleansing of your bowel, your kidneys, your liver and your whole body.

You can feel good and get rid of what ails you. This diet has been used for almost every health problem with great success..."

What the hell, only 10 days. Will report back.

180lbs... hoping to hit at least 165 by mid-July

Anyone tried it?

Tango 06-27-2005 04:50 PM

is it safe?

azguy 06-27-2005 04:51 PM

Supposed to be very safe. They even give you exact instructions what to do and eat right after the 10 days fast... I heard many many success stories and not even one bad opinion. Let's see :)

Tala 06-27-2005 04:55 PM

ACK!

No thanks. Chugging salt water isn't my idea of a good time.

azguy 06-27-2005 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala
ACK!

No thanks. Chugging salt water isn't my idea of a good time.

It's only 10 days... I'll deal with it.

Sparks 06-27-2005 05:03 PM

Good luck, man! Dieting is tough for a lot of people, but stick with it and you will be fine. My parents started the atkins diet about 4 months ago and are doing great.

PersianKitty 06-27-2005 05:04 PM

I know of a couple of ladies that have done master cleanse as a quick way to lose weight before their weddings.

xNetworx 06-27-2005 05:04 PM

interesting. Good luck. Don't get run down.

Code_Havoc 06-27-2005 05:20 PM

I have a good diet for everyone, it's got 2 easy steps.

1-EAT LESS!
2-MOVE MORE!

Been working wonders for me. :thumbsup

Pleasurepays 06-27-2005 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy

What the hell, only 10 days. Will report back.

180lbs... hoping to hit at least 165 by mid-July

Anyone tried it?

you can't lose weight by starving yourself and keep it off. you lose muscle and fat and you will gain it back as fast as you lost it and most likely gain more back since you not only sent a clear signal to your body that you are starving to death... but you also slowed your metabolism down by losing muscle mass... and your body is going to react by trying to put on fat anyway it can and you increased its ability to do so by shutting down your own metabolism and diminished its own daily caloric needs while your diet will go right back to sucking ass.

there are no shortcuts and magic pills to give you a healthy life.
:2 cents:

CDSmith 06-27-2005 05:37 PM

I just went out and bought a carmel apple cheesecake.

Gonne get medieval on it in about 2 mins...

Babagirls 06-27-2005 05:41 PM

if you drink green tea 3-5 times a day, you'll get the same effect.
i mix brewed green tea (cooled down) with iced tea and drink that all day. it will clean out your system the first 2 days & also..
-give you energy (its naturally caffienated)
-keeps your system clean
-boosts your metabolism
-satisfys your hunger (your less hungry)

$3 bucks for for like a box of 100 or something. you'll lose weight & be healthy..naturally.

Vic Lagina 06-27-2005 05:46 PM

This sounds more like a way to cleanse your colon rather than a diet. I'm all for a good cleansing, but this doesn't sound like a good way to diet.

Missy 06-27-2005 05:50 PM

If anybody has any recommendations for cleansing diets or books on cleansing diets for the purpose of CLEANSING and not for weight loss, I'd love to hear them.

MattO 06-27-2005 05:51 PM

Just drink a glass of sand and get a colonic and you'll be great.

azguy 06-27-2005 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
you can't lose weight by starving yourself and keep it off. you lose muscle and fat and you will gain it back as fast as you lost it and most likely gain more back since you not only sent a clear signal to your body that you are starving to death... but you also slowed your metabolism down by losing muscle mass... and your body is going to react by trying to put on fat anyway it can and you increased its ability to do so by shutting down your own metabolism and diminished its own daily caloric needs while your diet will go right back to sucking ass.

there are no shortcuts and magic pills to give you a healthy life.
:2 cents:

The diet is actually not about losing weight, that just happens as well. It's about getting rid of all the toxins and crap we've accumulated in our bodies for years, similar to what traditional colonics does.

azguy 06-27-2005 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic Lagina
This sounds more like a way to cleanse your colon rather than a diet. I'm all for a good cleansing, but this doesn't sound like a good way to diet.

You're absolutely right, I'm not doing it to lose the weight, but more as a way to start a much healthier life style. I figured this is going to be great kick start. As for the losing weight, it's simply a fact that people who do this diet lose some, and are likely to gain a little back after the fast is over.

CDSmith 06-27-2005 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missy
If anybody has any recommendations for cleansing diets or books on cleansing diets for the purpose of CLEANSING and not for weight loss, I'd love to hear them.

Hospitals here use something called "Golightly"..... I know, .... the name is retarded...It makes you go anything BUT lightly :D It comes in 1 litre bottles, looks like water but has a bit of a vile taste that takes getting used to. A 4-litre pack, if drank over the course of about 24 hours, will clean you right out top to bottom, literally.

Ask at a pharmacy for it, or at least describe it to the pharmacist.. they should have something like it where you are.

Pleasurepays 06-27-2005 06:17 PM

Quote:

The diet is actually not about losing weight, that just happens as well. It's about getting rid of all the toxins and crap we've accumulated in our bodies for years, similar to what traditional colonics does.
of course weight loss happens when you starve yourself. your body needs probably 2000 calories a day, needs protein, simple carbs and fats and you are just going to give it sugar, water and citric acids.

if you are concerned about cleaning your digestive tract, please consider the following:

when you are being prepped for surgery on your colon, imagine how clean it must be. the inside of your body is basically sterile with the exception of the contents of your digestive tract and appendix. your colon has to be absolutely clean of not only undigested food... but bacteria in general.

http://www.markfuscomd.com/bowel_prep.htm

you can buy it in any drug store. its what any surgeon will have you drink to prep for surgery. you can drink the whole thing. drink as much water as you can. then in a few hours its over... after you are finished, you could serve dinner to your own mom on your colon.

http://www.markfuscomd.com/Images/fleet-po.jpg

Missy 06-27-2005 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Hospitals here use something called "Golightly"..... I know, .... the name is retarded...It makes you go anything BUT lightly :D It comes in 1 litre bottles, looks like water but has a bit of a vile taste that takes getting used to. A 4-litre pack, if drank over the course of about 24 hours, will clean you right out top to bottom, literally.

Ask at a pharmacy for it, or at least describe it to the pharmacist.. they should have something like it where you are.

Thanks! I will check it out. But one question... will a person be "stuck" to the toilet for the next 24 hours after he/she drinks it?

reynold 06-27-2005 06:27 PM

I haven't tried it yet, but I'm quite convin ced with how my friends told me about its effectivity.

azguy 06-27-2005 09:37 PM

Found the book online.. read it at

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Beautycar..._cleanser.html

Just came back from Wild Oats.. bought all the things it requires (sea salt, maple syrup, laxative tea, lemons)... even had my "last meal" ;)

tony286 06-27-2005 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic Lagina
This sounds more like a way to cleanse your colon rather than a diet. I'm all for a good cleansing, but this doesn't sound like a good way to diet.

yeah thats the main idea

FilthyRob 06-27-2005 10:28 PM

Looks unsafe, and you'll be crapping your guts out for sure

Pornwolf 06-27-2005 10:43 PM

Good luck with that. Don't forget to watch what you eat after you lose all of that water weight and impacted feces from your colon as a result of that diet.

azguy 06-27-2005 10:46 PM

Thanks.

Yeah there's a whole section guiding you how to break the diet

azguy 06-28-2005 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala
ACK!

No thanks. Chugging salt water isn't my idea of a good time.

By the way, Tala, it's not that bad. I just finished the first morning ritual... and 4 cups of water and 2 tsp of salt is quite ok. Already spent an hour in the restroom... Going to be an interesting 10 days :)

CDSmith 06-28-2005 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missy
Thanks! I will check it out. But one question... will a person be "stuck" to the toilet for the next 24 hours after he/she drinks it?

Not stuck, exactly..... but I wouldn't stray too far from one during that time. :D

The Heron 06-28-2005 09:18 AM

oooohhh toxins, gotta watch out for toxins! ahahaha anyone here ever take biology?

Big E 06-28-2005 09:29 AM

FYI - lemonade would be considered a natural diuretic and consequently, the low calorie diet combined with a diuretic would result in significant weight loss, but it would all be water weight (some subcutaneous but mostly intramuscular, which will make you look flat and flabby), which you would promptly gain back as soon as you stopped the diet.

Weight loss is easy: calories in < calories expended.

Eat less or exercise more (preferably a combination of both). No other way around it.

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Heron
oooohhh toxins, gotta watch out for toxins! ahahaha anyone here ever take biology?

funny huh. gotta love those meaningless hippy buzz words.

"organic" is one of my favorites. a billion dollar business based on a word that has no legal definition in the US (with the single exception of how it applies to pork i believe), no labeling requirements/standards/explanations and can be put on absolutely everything and sold for more to hippies who "get it".

:1orglaugh

azguy 06-28-2005 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
funny huh. gotta love those meaningless hippy buzz words.

"organic" is one of my favorites. a billion dollar business based on a word that has no legal definition in the US (with the single exception of how it applies to pork i believe), no labeling requirements/standards/explanations and can be put on absolutely everything and sold for more to hippies who "get it".

:1orglaugh

Meaningless buzz words? What the hell are you talking about?

organic food, food raised without chemicals and processed without additives. Under standards adopted by the U.S. Agriculture Dept. (USDA) in 2000 and fully effective in 2002, synthetic fertilizers and pesticides and antibiotics may not be used in raising organic foods, and the use of irradiation, biotechnology, and sewer-sludge fertilizer is also banned. Food whose ingredients are at least 95% organic by weight may carry the ?USDA ORGANIC? label; products containing only organic ingredients are labeled 100% organic.

The government is after you! lol

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
Meaningless buzz words? What the hell are you talking about?

organic food, food raised without chemicals and processed without additives. Under standards adopted by the U.S. Agriculture Dept. (USDA) in 2000 and fully effective in 2002, synthetic fertilizers and pesticides and antibiotics may not be used in raising organic foods, and the use of irradiation, biotechnology, and sewer-sludge fertilizer is also banned. Food whose ingredients are at least 95% organic by weight may carry the ?USDA ORGANIC? label; products containing only organic ingredients are labeled 100% organic.

The government is after you! lol

holy shit. i am getting old. what i said was true before the The Organic Foods Production Act. that was 1990. :(

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
Meaningless buzz words? What the hell are you talking about?

organic food, food raised without chemicals and processed without additives. Under standards adopted by the U.S. Agriculture Dept. (USDA) in 2000 and fully effective in 2002, synthetic fertilizers and pesticides and antibiotics may not be used in raising organic foods, and the use of irradiation, biotechnology, and sewer-sludge fertilizer is also banned. Food whose ingredients are at least 95% organic by weight may carry the ?USDA ORGANIC? label; products containing only organic ingredients are labeled 100% organic.

The government is after you! lol

haha. you really made me wonder what the fuck i was talking about too. :)

i just remembered what i was arguing with my wife about. (had to do some quick searching before i was forced to apologize) :)

the law "National Organic Foods Act" describes requirements for foods that can be labeled as "USDA ORGANIC" by designated inspectors representing the government - but "organic" foods in stores dont carry that label. There is no limit on the use of the word organic on foods. if you go into a big store like Whole Foods - every apple, pea and almost all foods say "organic", "organically produced" etc.... nothing is certified as "USDA ORGANIC" and the point is that everyone is free to use the word "organic" whenever, and where ever they want to and it has no real meaning.

if i recall,... there are only specific laws about the use of the word "organic" when it applies to labeling pork.

this is how hippies are taken advantage of in stores.

azguy 06-28-2005 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
haha. you really made me wonder what the fuck i was talking about too. :)

i just remembered what i was arguing with my wife about. (had to do some quick searching before i was forced to apologize) :)

the law "National Organic Foods Act" describes requirements for foods that can be labeled as "USDA ORGANIC" by designated inspectors representing the government - but "organic" foods in stores dont carry that label. There is no limit on the use of the word organic on foods. if you go into a big store like Whole Foods - every apple, pea and almost all foods say "organic", "organically produced" etc.... nothing is certified as "USDA ORGANIC" and the point is that everyone is free to use the word "organic" whenever, and where ever they want to and it has no real meaning.

if i recall,... there are only specific laws about the use of the word "organic" when it applies to labeling pork.

this is how hippies are taken advantage of in stores.

That is simply not true. Most organic products at Wild Oats, for example, are stamped with the green USDA ORGANIC logo.

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
That is simply not true. Most organic products at Wild Oats, for example, are stamped with the green USDA ORGANIC logo.

what i said is true. i did not say anything about "Wild Oats". so how would i know what is there?

i frequently shop at Whole Foods (east side of Seattle) and i have made it a point to look for this label. i have never seen it. i am not saying that it does not exist in the store on some products, i am just saying that it is not found on what i believe to be the majority of products in the store.

i did however see "organic", "organically grown", "organically produced" etc. plastered all over everything with no government label.

for example... i looked over all the fruit and vegetables carefully with my wife after we had this discussion and we both agreed that there was no government label on anything we saw. Fruit for example, just had a small sticker saying "organic".

my only point was that everyone at the end of the day is free to use the word organic and it does not necessarily have to mean anything. its not a guarantee of how it was produced, grown or processed and there are no laws (federal or state as far as i read) governing/restricting its use.

Missy 06-28-2005 11:42 AM

I remember reading not too long ago that they are allowed to put on the packaging that the product is "made with organic ingredients" as long as the product contains at least 70% organic ingredients. Does anybody know if there's any truth to that?

azguy 06-28-2005 11:46 AM

Hmm the lemonade mix is kind of disgusting (I hate maple syrup), but people say you get used to it and learn to like it after the third day or so. I've had 2 so far today, and they say you need between 6 to 12 cups a day. I'll try to hit 10

taibo 06-28-2005 11:48 AM

good luck, you can do it

azguy 06-28-2005 11:49 AM

Thanks. I don't think it will be so difficult.. we'll see :)


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