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cashengine 06-28-2005 12:45 PM

i did it three times....once for four days (succumbed to watching burger king ads...tip#1 dont watch tv)

second time was for three days, got a massive migraine headache, nearly fainted.

thrid time was four five days, crayz stomach pains from blasting salt water out my ass ( tip#2 you will pisss out yer ass, dont make any plans)


my reccomendation: it teaches you how much you dont need to eat as much as we all do, there are additives in food these days which make us more hungry "jeez i wonder why food companies would want you to eat more?" its tough, try and keep busy, best thing is to try and forget your on it. even though I suck at it, it may have some health benefits. :helpme

azguy 06-28-2005 01:27 PM

Thing is, they say you will feel all kinds of stuff (headaches, muscle pain, vomiting, fatigue, etc.) during these 10 days as the fast releases all the toxins and poison we have in our bodies to be "eliminated" the next morning when you take a serious dump. They say that whatever you feel usually only last for that day only and will be gone in the next morning.

The Sultan Of Smut 06-28-2005 03:59 PM

I finished this cleanse in April. I did it for 14 days which is what is recomended with a minimum of 10. I suggest you do it for the full 14 days but I WARN you the worst part of the cleanse is the end. YOU HAVE TO STICK TO THE COOL DOWN!!!

The Sultan Of Smut 06-28-2005 04:06 PM

Also, when you shit everyday don't force the salt water out because it will put too much pressure on your arse. I read this in a forum and took it to heart when I saw pictures of hemmoroids that were the result. Nasty stuff.

This cleanse shouldn't be used for weight loss though you will loose 20 pounds and regain 5 or 6 soon after. The benefits of this cleanse is getting rid of 20 years of hamburgers stuck in your colon as well as ridding yourself of caffeine dependence. When you're done you'll notice your energy levels are way harder and much more productive at work. You also end up with a way nicer complexion and 'look' much healthier :)

azguy 06-28-2005 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut
The benefits of this cleanse is getting rid of 20 years of hamburgers stuck in your colon as well as ridding yourself of caffeine dependence. When you're done you'll notice your energy levels are way harder and much more productive at work. You also end up with a way nicer complexion and 'look' much healthier :)

That's exactly it :) I'm ready to start over! We eat too much shit.

Glad to hear yours was a success :)

The Sultan Of Smut 06-28-2005 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Hospitals here use something called "Golightly"..... I know, .... the name is retarded...It makes you go anything BUT lightly :D It comes in 1 litre bottles, looks like water but has a bit of a vile taste that takes getting used to. A 4-litre pack, if drank over the course of about 24 hours, will clean you right out top to bottom, literally.

Ask at a pharmacy for it, or at least describe it to the pharmacist.. they should have something like it where you are.

Surgery is always used as a last resort along with all chemicals used with it. I have heard that the drink you can take to clean out your colon before surgery will kill some of the natural bacteria in your colon that aids in digestion. I don't have any links supporting this view it's just something I heard and since Buddhist monks have been cleansing for a thousand years with no noticable side effects I'll stick with the natural way. :2 cents:

Pornwolf 06-28-2005 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Big E
FYI - lemonade would be considered a natural diuretic and consequently, the low calorie diet combined with a diuretic would result in significant weight loss, but it would all be water weight (some subcutaneous but mostly intramuscular, which will make you look flat and flabby), which you would promptly gain back as soon as you stopped the diet.

Weight loss is easy: calories in < calories expended.

Eat less or exercise more (preferably a combination of both). No other way around it.

This is what I was saying in my last post. I'm gonna do a quote-bump using Big E's post to say it again. It's true. Crash diets don't work fellas. Exercise and eat right... always. That's the only way to look great and keep on looking great.

azguy 06-28-2005 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
This is what I was saying in my last post. I'm gonna do a quote-bump using Big E's post to say it again. It's true. Crash diets don't work fellas. Exercise and eat right... always. That's the only way to look great and keep on looking great.

My first post gave the wrong impression regarding the Master Cleanser diet. It is intended to detoxify your body, heal it, and clean it from all the garbage we've been eating for years. While on it, you don't eat, hence the obvious weight loss, which some of it you gain back when you break the diet.

:thumbsup

This is my first day on it.. and I'm feeling good so far. Hopefully this won't get too bad in the following days.

Varius 06-28-2005 05:05 PM

Here's what I posted last night about doing something similar :)

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=486002

azguy 06-28-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius
Here's what I posted last night about doing something similar :)

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=486002

Then you should really consider this one :) Read about it in the links I posted in this thread. Good luck :drinkup

Varius 06-28-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy
Then you should really consider this one :) Read about it in the links I posted in this thread. Good luck :drinkup

Well I think whether you do it only-water, with juice, tea or lemonade...the effect should be very similar if not the same... :2 cents:

nickdisagrees 06-28-2005 05:17 PM

I have a friend who has done something similar to this...

Have fun shitting a bike tire once your insides start cleansing themselves.

azguy 06-28-2005 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius
Well I think whether you do it only-water, with juice, tea or lemonade...the effect should be very similar if not the same... :2 cents:

Not exactly. The idea behind the Master Cleanser diet is to heal our body and get rid of the toxins and crap it has accumulated over the years. The diet offers a balanced diet to keep your body (and you) comfortable for the duration of the diet. The special lemonade has everything your body needs for this temporary period.

The maple syrup is a balanced form of positive and negative sugars with many minerals and vitamins. Then, the cayenne pepper is needed as it breaks up mucus, adds many of the B and C vitamins, etc. The lemons are the richest source of minerals and vitamins of any food known to man.

It's also a reducing diet as it dissolves and eliminates all types of fatty tissue - all without harmful side effects.

Another feature of this diet is drinking water with sea salt every morning, as we need to cleanse the colonic tract.

azguy 06-28-2005 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius
Well I think whether you do it only-water, with juice, tea or lemonade...the effect should be very similar if not the same... :2 cents:

But yeah, other things may work, I just don't feel like there's a need to reinvent the wheel when it's clear something very specific works wonders :)

Varius 06-28-2005 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy
Not exactly. The idea behind the Master Cleanser diet is to heal our body and get rid of the toxins and crap it has accumulated over the years. The diet offers a balanced diet to keep your body (and you) comfortable for the duration of the diet. The special lemonade has everything your body needs for this temporary period.

The maple syrup is a balanced form of positive and negative sugars with many minerals and vitamins. Then, the cayenne pepper is needed as it breaks up mucus, adds many of the B and C vitamins, etc. The lemons are the richest source of minerals and vitamins of any food known to man.

It's also a reducing diet as it dissolves and eliminates all types of fatty tissue - all without harmful side effects.

Another feature of this diet is drinking water with sea salt every morning, as we need to cleanse the colonic tract.


Guess I should have read your links first then :winkwink:

Doing so now....

azguy 06-28-2005 05:26 PM

This is it:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Beautycar..._cleanser.html

I bought the book, but that site has most of it online...

:)

Missy 06-28-2005 06:06 PM

So basically when you do a cleansing diet such as the one you are doing now, you ARE GOING TO LOSE WEIGHT? What if you don't want to lose weight? It has taken me years to get up to what I feel is my perfect weight, and I do not want to lose any of it. But I have been very interested lately in a cleansing diet strictly for the purpose of ridding my body of years-worth of crap stuck to my intestinal and colonic tract, and hopefully the end result will be more energy. But if I'm going to lose 20 pounds in the process, it may not be worth it.

azguy 06-28-2005 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Missy
So basically when you do a cleansing diet such as the one you are doing now, you ARE GOING TO LOSE WEIGHT? What if you don't want to lose weight?

You have to remember that the only things you can possibly lose in this diet are mucus, disease, and waste. As the book says, healthy tissue will not be eliminated.

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy
You have to remember that the only things you can possibly lose in this diet are mucus, disease, and waste. As the book says, healthy tissue will not be eliminated.

if you think you are going to starve yourself and not lose muscle tissue and fat, you need to study anatomy and physiology and learn how the body works.

you have also stated that this "concoction" "gives your body everything it needs" - a simple fact that cannot be disputed is that your body needs protein, fat and carbs to function normally.


:2 cents:

Spunky 06-28-2005 06:40 PM

I don't think I could last more then a day on that diet :1orglaugh

Pornwolf 06-28-2005 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
My first post gave the wrong impression regarding the Master Cleanser diet. It is intended to detoxify your body, heal it, and clean it from all the garbage we've been eating for years. While on it, you don't eat, hence the obvious weight loss, which some of it you gain back when you break the diet.

:thumbsup

This is my first day on it.. and I'm feeling good so far. Hopefully this won't get too bad in the following days.

Oh, ok. Well as a cleanser I'm all for it. Here's to you and your bowel movements. :drinkup

azguy 06-28-2005 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
you have also stated that this "concoction" "gives your body everything it needs" - a simple fact that cannot be disputed is that your body needs protein, fat and carbs to function normally.


:2 cents:

Supposedly not for those 10 days it doesn't. And besides, sometimes you need to do the wrong thing for the right reasons. :thumbsup

azguy 06-28-2005 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
if you think you are going to starve yourself and not lose muscle tissue and fat, you need to study anatomy and physiology and learn how the body works. :2 cents:

You're missing the point. You're not starving your body. Yeah yeah, your brain thinks it need food (read: garbage), but in the end of the day, the body got what it needed from the lemonade mix. No one says you need to follow these strict rules forever, but doing so for 10 days for the greater good makes perfect sense.

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy
Supposedly not for those 10 days it doesn't. And besides, sometimes you need to do the wrong thing for the right reasons. :thumbsup

sorry but you can't starve yourself and not lose fat and muscle. you also can't subsist on a diet of sugar either. thats equally silly. your body needs protein, fat and complex carbs. where do you think your body is going to get the energy to function? all you are feeding it is sugar? that is an energy source that lasts only minutes... what cannot be used gets stored as fat.

of course for 10 days you will probably not hurt yourself, but its not right to characterize it as completely healthy and harmless and keep saying that you wont lose muscle or fat or that it gives your body everything it needs. neither of those things are true.

I have to be honest and say this is all just hippy crap. it involves all the typical favorite buzzwords - "poisons" and "toxins" and so on. What does that mean exactly? no one has addressed this and proved the actual need for this process. in fact, neither does the link you provided. it just makes some general and vague claims.

this for example, is one of many rediculous statements:. "As this is a complete balance of minerals and vitamins, one does not suffer the pangs of hunger."

it sounds good... but a balance of vitamins and minerals have nothing to do with hunger, the hormones that regulate it and how this sensation is surpressed. of course you are going to be hungry. you are not eating anything. i eat very well and take all kinds of vitamin supplements and am not deficient in anything - by his logic, i should never be hungry... yet oddly enough, i am hungry every two to three hours. :)

just because you have read a book... does not mean it is valid and correct information. these people have a book too http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm and they maintain that you can live by "eating sunlight" with no food whatsoever.

again, i am not saying you should not do it. i doubt you could cause any harm to your body. but it can't be characterized as a healthy thing to do. at the end of the day, you can drink Fleet Phosphosoda and in a few hours achieve the same thing to the point that you are ready for surgery. that means being 100% clean. Why would you want to do something like this for 10 days to MAYBE achieve the same thing?

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
You're missing the point. You're not starving your body. Yeah yeah, your brain thinks it need food (read: garbage), but in the end of the day, the body got what it needed from the lemonade mix. No one says you need to follow these strict rules forever, but doing so for 10 days for the greater good makes perfect sense.

all i can say is that you need to study anatomy and physiology to understand how the body functions, how the body converts macronutrients to energy and so on. you are way off. so far off that it is pointless to talk about it.

a balanced diet is definately not lemons, molasses, red pepper - unless we are readding something completely different


ingredients:
# 10 oz. fresh sugar cane juice (medium hot or cold) 2 tbsp. fresh lime or lemon juice
# 1/10 tsp cayenne (red pepper) or to taste

seeric 06-28-2005 07:10 PM

i know a few people that have done this. women. one did not fair too well. you can really fuck yourself up with it if you have any ailing conditions.

the lemonade diet is dangerous.

The Heron 06-28-2005 07:14 PM

This is stupid, some people should spend some money and see a real doctor with an M.D. not a crackhead with tea leaves.

azguy 06-28-2005 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
sorry but you can't starve yourself and not lose fat and muscle. you also can't subsist on a diet of sugar either. thats equally silly. your body needs protein, fat and complex carbs. where do you think your body is going to get the energy to function? all you are feeding it is sugar? that is an energy source that lasts only minutes... what cannot be used gets stored as fat.

of course for 10 days you will probably not hurt yourself, but its not right to characterize it as completely healthy and harmless and keep saying that you wont lose muscle or fat or that it gives your body everything it needs. neither of those things are true.

I have to be honest and say this is all just hippy crap. it involves all the typical favorite buzzwords - "poisons" and "toxins" and so on. What does that mean exactly? no one has addressed this and proved the actual need for this process. in fact, neither does the link you provided. it just makes some general and vague claims.

this for example, is one of many rediculous statements:. "As this is a complete balance of minerals and vitamins, one does not suffer the pangs of hunger."

it sounds good... but a balance of vitamins and minerals have nothing to do with hunger, the hormones that regulate it and how this sensation is surpressed. of course you are going to be hungry. you are not eating anything. i eat very well and take all kinds of vitamin supplements and am not deficient in anything - by his logic, i should never be hungry... yet oddly enough, i am hungry every two to three hours. :)

just because you have read a book... does not mean it is valid and correct information. these people have a book too http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm and they maintain that you can live by "eating sunlight" with no food whatsoever.

again, i am not saying you should not do it. i doubt you could cause any harm to your body. but it can't be characterized as a healthy thing to do. at the end of the day, you can drink Fleet Phosphosoda and in a few hours achieve the same thing to the point that you are ready for surgery. that means being 100% clean. Why would you want to do something like this for 10 days to MAYBE achieve the same thing?

Look, to every diet (or "system" if you may) there will always be people like you, as there will always be the supporters.

After extensive research into it, I am fully aware of the cons, but have also seen the pros in real life in many people who've done it and are happy to do it a few times a year.

Some people believe in real doctors and push pills all day long, while others think these people are nuts, and it works the other way around as well.

pornguy 06-28-2005 07:30 PM

I am not sure that I have ever heard of it. But hey. If it works, let us all know. And good luck.

azguy 06-28-2005 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
all i can say is that you need to study anatomy and physiology to understand how the body functions, how the body converts macronutrients to energy and so on. you are way off. so far off that it is pointless to talk about it.

a balanced diet is definately not lemons, molasses, red pepper - unless we are readding something completely different


ingredients:
# 10 oz. fresh sugar cane juice (medium hot or cold) 2 tbsp. fresh lime or lemon juice
# 1/10 tsp cayenne (red pepper) or to taste

So let's not talk about it any longer. We clearly have different views, and I doubt either of us will change them tonight.

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy
Look, to every diet (or "system" if you may) there will always be people like you, as there will always be the supporters.

After extensive research into it, I am fully aware of the cons, but have also seen the pros in real life in many people who've done it and are happy to do it a few times a year.

Some people believe in real doctors and push pills all day long, while others think these people are nuts, and it works the other way around as well.

people "like me"???

haha.. read his site... he is saying your body can create protein from simply breathing air. HELLO!?!?!?! "essential amino acids"... ever hear of those? you know, those 9 amino acids out of 22 that must be present for protein to be made. they are not floating in space. they come from foods and they all must be present in your stomach at the same time combine with those amino acids your body can produce to make protein. how is something transported from your lungs to your

you don't need to be a doctor to know that is factually wrong and impossible.

Pleasurepays 06-28-2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
So let's not talk about it any longer. We clearly have different views, and I doubt either of us will change them tonight.

haha. agreed :winkwink:

azguy 06-28-2005 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
haha. agreed :winkwink:

I ran out of lemons. Going to buy some more :thumbsup

Pornwolf 06-28-2005 08:02 PM

Yunno, there are so many people who aren't shitting regularly that anything that sends them to the toilet one good time or more is worth it's weight in gold. And the truth is, THEY REALLY NEED TO GO!

The Sultan Of Smut 06-29-2005 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
ust because you have read a book... does not mean it is valid and correct information. these people have a book too http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm and they maintain that you can live by "eating sunlight" with no food whatsoever.

1 in 3 people develop a form of cancer, doesn't seem like the status quo is so shit hot either. The cleanse isn't for weight loss and doing it for long periods of time IS NOT considered healthy. 14-21 day of cleansing once a year followed by eating a balanced diet consisting of whole foods for the rest is far healthier than 365 day of Burger King. I've done the cleanse and have nothing positive to say about it. Yes, yes, yes I know the body needs protein and carbs to function properly but not having them for 10 days is NOT going to make you wither away.

I do agree with you that there is a lot of crap about toxins. However, one toxin that you can definitely do with less of is caffeine and this cleanse helps with that.

Digibucks 06-29-2005 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
This is my first day on it.. and I'm feeling good so far. Hopefully this won't get too bad in the following days.

that's nice to hear mate...goodluck & keep it up :)

azguy 06-30-2005 09:56 AM

Already on DAY 3 with no food. The salt water is still easy to deal with in the mornings and the lemonade is actually tasting good now. I wasn't hungry even once, although I did have a craving for just about anything I ate in the past year. LOL. And yesterday at the movies it wasn't easy having everyone around you munching on popcorn... but doing great so far.

Pleasurepays 06-30-2005 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
Already on DAY 3 with no food. The salt water is still easy to deal with in the mornings and the lemonade is actually tasting good now. I wasn't hungry even once, although I did have a craving for just about anything I ate in the past year. LOL. And yesterday at the movies it wasn't easy having everyone around you munching on popcorn... but doing great so far.

an interesting thing about stuff like this (or for example a high protein/low carb diet that kills your appetite) is that you become aware of how eating is very psychological and how often you are eating out of habit or simply because your brain is telling you to eat... even though you feel no physical sense of hunger.

azguy 06-30-2005 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
an interesting thing about stuff like this (or for example a high protein/low carb diet that kills your appetite) is that you become aware of how eating is very psychological and how often you are eating out of habit or simply because your brain is telling you to eat... even though you feel no physical sense of hunger.

That's very true.

I'm also full of energy since I started the diet.. this may go away as the fast continues, but at this point, I'm feeling great and still work efficiently and actually have less distractions during the day. Very interesting, I can't wait to see what the next few days will be like

Varius 06-30-2005 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
an interesting thing about stuff like this (or for example a high protein/low carb diet that kills your appetite) is that you become aware of how eating is very psychological and how often you are eating out of habit or simply because your brain is telling you to eat... even though you feel no physical sense of hunger.

I agree about how psychological it is. Actually, one fo the worst behaviors in eating, I only really realized by playing poker.

When I began playing online poker, I used to call a lot hoping to hit turns/rivers, since I already had money in the pot. After gaining some experience, my winning % is much higher by folding way more often after the flop or even pre-flop.

In eating, especially in restaurants but even at home, many people will finish their whole plate becausent to waste it". Thus they eat more than they need to, and become very very full instead of just satisfied. I have tried to stop doing this more and more and eat (or order) only until I feel nearly full, not past.


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