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Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:26 PM

WTF, illegal immigrant wins a $4 million lawsuit
 
http://www.nysun.com/article/10200

How fucked up is this?

"Living in this country illegally and working off the books, he considered a lawsuit against his employer only after his brother visited an advocacy group in the city on his behalf, the injured worker said yesterday." :mad:

axelcat 03-10-2005 05:28 PM

wow thats amazing

JenC 03-10-2005 05:29 PM

That's fucked up. But I guess it's better that he gets the money from a private company rather than robbing it from our government! :mad:

Alex 03-10-2005 05:31 PM

Idiots.
He was doing his job, probably getting paid shit money, in a shitty job envoirment.

He got injured, its the employers responsibility to pay his med bills and such.

He fell 30 feet.
And sustained grave injuries, including loss of vision in his right eye, brain damage, liver and kidney lacerations, a collapsed lung, loss of his sense of smell, and broken teeth.

If anything, he would pay that four million any day to not have to go trhough what he did.

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JenC
That's fucked up. But I guess it's better that he gets the money from a private company rather than robbing it from our government! :mad:

Yeah, but it set a bad precedent.

Kevsh 03-10-2005 05:32 PM

Watch Lou Dobbs and you'll hear crazy stories like this every day ...
20 out of the 27 illegal aliens caught working in a secure area of an airport had state-issued driver licences!

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Idiots.
He was doing his job, probably getting paid shit money, in a shitty job envoirment.

He got injured, its the employers responsibility to pay his med bills and such.

He fell 30 feet.
And sustained grave injuries, including loss of vision in his right eye, brain damage, liver and kidney lacerations, a collapsed lung, loss of his sense of smell, and broken teeth.

If anything, he would pay that four million any day to not have to go trhough what he did.

You're the idiot. He was working AND living here ILLEGALLY. Robbing from the government and the American taxpayers. Its too bad he didn't die and take his family with him. :2 cents:

Scott McD 03-10-2005 05:34 PM

The illegal immigrants that come to the UK have more rights than us.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Alex 03-10-2005 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
You're the idiot. He was working AND living here ILLEGALLY. Robbing from the government and the American taxpayers. Its too bad he didn't die and take his family with him. :2 cents:

Yes, he was probably getting paid $2.50 an hour, but no you are right, HE was getting robbed.

Alex 03-10-2005 05:36 PM

Are you saying that he shouldnt have been helped becuase he shouldnt have been in the U.S in the first place?

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
Watch Lou Dobbs and you'll hear crazy stories like this every day ...
20 out of the 27 illegal aliens caught working in a secure area of an airport had state-issued driver licences!

The worst part about it is that when an illegal immigrant is caught and deported then applies for citizenship, they get it faster than one who goes about the whole process legally. Kinda reminds me of that Cheech and Chong movie where they call immigration on themselves, and Chong asks Cheech whats going on and he says, "Oh, I forgot, it's the wedding. My cousin is getting married in Mexico, they call immigration on themselves and the government drives the whole wedding party down for free, and feeds them lunch."

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Yes, he was probably getting paid $2.50 an hour, but no you are right, HE was getting robbed.

He was here illegally. Doesn't that register with you? There are people here legally struggling to make it, and you have scum like this robbing from the system and keeping people who deserve the job out of one. If he was legal, then that would be different. He was a criminal.

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Are you saying that he shouldnt have been helped becuase he shouldnt have been in the U.S in the first place?

He shouldn't have won a $4 million settlement. He should have been treated medically then sent back to where he came from.

Alex 03-10-2005 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
He was here illegally. Doesn't that register with you? There are people here legally struggling to make it, and you have scum like this robbing from the system and keeping people who deserve the job out of one. If he was legal, then that would be different. He was a criminal.

A criminal? What makes him a criminal. He was just another person trying to make it living life.

Being here illegal doesnt make him a crimial.
And what about other people. They should be glad that they are here legally, have the oppertunity to earn more that $2.50 an hour. Get healthcare when needed without having to worry about being deported.

Kicker 03-10-2005 05:40 PM

they are lucky..

Alex 03-10-2005 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
He shouldn't have won a $4 million settlement. He should have been treated medically then sent back to where he came from.

He was working in an envoirment that was Illeagally unsafe for any type of workers.

Read what happened to him. Its not worth 4million

abstractAFFect 03-10-2005 05:42 PM

Ohh please,

EVERYONE in the US has been an illegal immagrant at some point.

That's how anthropology goes. I mean look at the govenor of California.

It's not like he was handing out crack to school kids.
He was contributing(illegally) to the economy and paying for it(legally) by SHITTY WAGES, SHITTY LIVING, SHIITY TREATMENT.

He was just trying to provide for his kids so THEY can be proud Americans. JUST LIKE YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS.

Idiot.

Alex 03-10-2005 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abstractAFFect
Ohh please,

EVERYONE in the US has been an illegal immagrant at some point.

That's how anthropology goes. I mean look at the govenor of California.

It's not like he was handing out crack to school kids.
He was contributing(illegally) to the economy and paying for it(legally) by SHITTY WAGES, SHITTY LIVING, SHIITY TREATMENT.

He was just trying to provide for his kids so THEY can be proud Americans. JUST LIKE YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS.

Idiot.

You are mistaken
Shoehorns ancestors have always been american citizens. He is entited something other people are not

(sarcasim)

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
A criminal? What makes him a criminal. He was just another person trying to make it living life.

Being here illegal doesnt make him a crimial.
And what about other people. They should be glad that they are here legally, have the oppertunity to earn more that $2.50 an hour. Get healthcare when needed without having to worry about being deported.

Debating with this you is a waste of my time. You don't get it, and I can't understand why. It is illegal to live in this country without a Visa. It is also illegal here to work without a Visa. Staying here without that is illegal, same as killing someone is illegal. If you kill someone, that makes you a criminal. My ancestors came here from Greece with nothing and worked their asses off, and it paid off. Thats the difference between the old school European work ethic and todays work ethic. Immigrants then saw America as a land of opportunity, where hard work would pay off. Immigrants today see America as a free ride, where if they are sly enough and can work the system well enough then they will get something for nothing. This country doesn't owe anyone a goddamn, and it pisses me off when people think that it does.

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
You are mistaken
Shoehorns ancestors have always been american citizens. He is entited something other people are not

(sarcasim)

My ancestors came here legally and worked 18 hour days. Let's not make this a race issue or a immigration issue, its about whats wrong and whats right and $4 million is way out of line.

Nembrionic 03-10-2005 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
http://www.nysun.com/article/10200

How fucked up is this?

"Living in this country illegally and working off the books, he considered a lawsuit against his employer only after his brother visited an advocacy group in the city on his behalf, the injured worker said yesterday." :mad:

What are you whining about? Isn't this the superior american justice system at work? :1orglaugh

They can now take that 4 million, have him pay taxes over it and kick him out of the country :thumbsup

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nembrionic
Isn't this the superior american justice system at work? :1orglaugh

Sad but true.

MetaMan 03-10-2005 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Idiots.
He was doing his job, probably getting paid shit money, in a shitty job envoirment.

He got injured, its the employers responsibility to pay his med bills and such.

He fell 30 feet.
And sustained grave injuries, including loss of vision in his right eye, brain damage, liver and kidney lacerations, a collapsed lung, loss of his sense of smell, and broken teeth.

If anything, he would pay that four million any day to not have to go trhough what he did.


yes i agree you are the idiot. he was working illegally.

thats like saying that because i am from amsterdam im going to go to thialand and smoke weed legally.

laws are laws, get back across the boarder senor'.

Alex 03-10-2005 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
Debating with this you is a waste of my time. You don't get it, and I can't understand why. It is illegal to live in this country without a Visa. It is also illegal here to work without a Visa. Staying here without that is illegal, same as killing someone is illegal. If you kill someone, that makes you a criminal. My ancestors came here from Greece with nothing and worked their asses off, and it paid off. Thats the difference between the old school European work ethic and todays work ethic. Immigrants then saw America as a land of opportunity, where hard work would pay off. Immigrants today see America as a free ride, where if they are sly enough and can work the system well enough then they will get something for nothing. This country doesn't owe anyone a goddamn, and it pisses me off when people think that it does.

Speeding is illeagal. Running a red light is illeagal. But you can compare that to killing someone?

The thing is you are missing the main point of the article.
Who cares if he was illeagal.

The company that employed him are criminals. They were breaking saftey laws.

They wernt providng basic saftey nets and harnesses. They owe this man to pay his bills and alll other things that he will need to live a normal life for the rest of his.

Tanker 03-10-2005 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
A criminal? What makes him a criminal. He was just another person trying to make it living life.

Being here illegal doesnt make him a crimial.


he was her illegally what part of that is not a criminal offense

he was being paid under the table and not paying taxes what part of that is not being a criminal



I dont know do you ?

Alex 03-10-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan
yes i agree you are the idiot. he was working illegally.

thats like saying that because i am from amsterdam im going to go to thialand and smoke weed legally.

laws are laws, get back across the boarder senor'.

Its more like saying that if somoene gets shot in a shady neighbhorhood he shouldnt recieve medical help becuase he should not have been thier in the first place.

Alex 03-10-2005 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker
he was her illegally what part of that is not a criminal offense

he was being paid under the table and not paying taxes what part of that is not being a criminal



I dont know do you ?

No in that case the company hiring him are the criminals.
Im sure that if he could, he would become an american citizen and pay taxes and work leagally.

Nembrionic 03-10-2005 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker
he was being paid under the table

You know...he was receiving the money. Somebody was giving it him. That guy that was giving it to him was just as bad then!

I don't see anything about him hiring illegal immigrants and knowing about it being mentioned as a bad thing. And it is.

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Speeding is illeagal. Running a red light is illeagal. But you can compare that to killing someone?

The thing is you are missing the main point of the article.
Who cares if he was illeagal.

The company that employed him are criminals. They were breaking saftey laws.

They wernt providng basic saftey nets and harnesses. They owe this man to pay his bills and alll other things that he will need to live a normal life for the rest of his.

He was an illegal immigrant. If you are here illegally you aren't supposed to have the same rights as citizens. If I break into someones house and fall and get hurt I can sue them, I think thats bullshit too. To me this is more about the decay of American discretion than anything else.

Wolfy 03-10-2005 05:57 PM

this is like watching two brick walls talking to each other, you guys are so cute :D

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Its more like saying that if somoene gets shot in a shady neighbhorhood he shouldnt recieve medical help becuase he should not have been thier in the first place.

Come on, try to be reasonable.

flashfire 03-10-2005 05:58 PM

the legal system is fucked

Alex 03-10-2005 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
He was an illegal immigrant. If you are here illegally you aren't supposed to have the same rights as citizens. If I break into someones house and fall and get hurt I can sue them, I think thats bullshit too. To me this is more about the decay of American discretion than anything else.

What happened to no more posting in this thread for you :1orglaugh

Im not arguing your other point. Its not realted to this thread.

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashfire
the legal system is fucked

Exactly.

Alex 03-10-2005 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
Come on, try to be reasonable.

Im running a red light. Breaking the law, doing something illeagal.

I get hit by a truck.

In your POV, sinice i am a criminal doing something illegal i dont deserve help.

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
What happened to no more posting in this thread for you :1orglaugh

What are you talking about?

Shoehorn! 03-10-2005 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Im running a red light. Breaking the law, doing something illeagal.

I get hit by a truck.

In your POV, sinice i am a criminal doing something illegal i dont deserve help.

You just don't get it do you?

paxton 03-10-2005 06:04 PM

Your logic is faulty, Shoehorn. Yes, the employee was working in this country illegally. But the employer is just as culpable as the employee, as they knew the situation and should have a better understanding of the labor laws. Not to mention they also committed numerous other labor violations for which they were charged. Your argument also took a hit when you compared the criminality of murder to breaking less severe laws. Please keep things in perspective.

I can understand how one may feel the amount of the award was far too large, but this poor man is entitled to damages. The court agreed.

Case closed.

:2 cents:

Alex 03-10-2005 06:04 PM

I do get it.

You are seing things in the POV that immigrants are bad.

He was working. The company was illeagally employing him and breaking saftey rules but you dont see them as bad guys.

Sparks 03-10-2005 06:04 PM

Illegals cost legitimate citizens and tax payers wayyyyyy too much money. It sucks, but such is life....


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