WTF, illegal immigrant wins a $4 million lawsuit - GoFuckYourself.com

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:26 PM

http://www.nysun.com/article/10200

How fucked up is this?

"Living in this country illegally and working off the books, he considered a lawsuit against his employer only after his brother visited an advocacy group in the city on his behalf, the injured worker said yesterday."

axelcat · 03-10-2005, 05:28 PM

wow thats amazing

JenC · 03-10-2005, 05:29 PM

That's fucked up. But I guess it's better that he gets the money from a private company rather than robbing it from our government!

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:31 PM

Idiots.
He was doing his job, probably getting paid shit money, in a shitty job envoirment.

He got injured, its the employers responsibility to pay his med bills and such.

He fell 30 feet.
And sustained grave injuries, including loss of vision in his right eye, brain damage, liver and kidney lacerations, a collapsed lung, loss of his sense of smell, and broken teeth.

If anything, he would pay that four million any day to not have to go trhough what he did.

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JenC

That's fucked up. But I guess it's better that he gets the money from a private company rather than robbing it from our government!

Yeah, but it set a bad precedent.

Kevsh · 03-10-2005, 05:32 PM

Watch Lou Dobbs and you'll hear crazy stories like this every day ...
20 out of the 27 illegal aliens caught working in a secure area of an airport had state-issued driver licences!

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Idiots.
He was doing his job, probably getting paid shit money, in a shitty job envoirment.

He got injured, its the employers responsibility to pay his med bills and such.

He fell 30 feet.
And sustained grave injuries, including loss of vision in his right eye, brain damage, liver and kidney lacerations, a collapsed lung, loss of his sense of smell, and broken teeth.

If anything, he would pay that four million any day to not have to go trhough what he did.

You're the idiot. He was working AND living here ILLEGALLY. Robbing from the government and the American taxpayers. Its too bad he didn't die and take his family with him.

Scott McD · 03-10-2005, 05:34 PM

The illegal immigrants that come to the UK have more rights than us.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

You're the idiot. He was working AND living here ILLEGALLY. Robbing from the government and the American taxpayers. Its too bad he didn't die and take his family with him.

Yes, he was probably getting paid $2.50 an hour, but no you are right, HE was getting robbed.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:36 PM

Are you saying that he shouldnt have been helped becuase he shouldnt have been in the U.S in the first place?

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Watch Lou Dobbs and you'll hear crazy stories like this every day ...
20 out of the 27 illegal aliens caught working in a secure area of an airport had state-issued driver licences!

The worst part about it is that when an illegal immigrant is caught and deported then applies for citizenship, they get it faster than one who goes about the whole process legally. Kinda reminds me of that Cheech and Chong movie where they call immigration on themselves, and Chong asks Cheech whats going on and he says, "Oh, I forgot, it's the wedding. My cousin is getting married in Mexico, they call immigration on themselves and the government drives the whole wedding party down for free, and feeds them lunch."

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Yes, he was probably getting paid $2.50 an hour, but no you are right, HE was getting robbed.

He was here illegally. Doesn't that register with you? There are people here legally struggling to make it, and you have scum like this robbing from the system and keeping people who deserve the job out of one. If he was legal, then that would be different. He was a criminal.

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Are you saying that he shouldnt have been helped becuase he shouldnt have been in the U.S in the first place?

He shouldn't have won a $4 million settlement. He should have been treated medically then sent back to where he came from.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

He was here illegally. Doesn't that register with you? There are people here legally struggling to make it, and you have scum like this robbing from the system and keeping people who deserve the job out of one. If he was legal, then that would be different. He was a criminal.

A criminal? What makes him a criminal. He was just another person trying to make it living life.

Being here illegal doesnt make him a crimial.
And what about other people. They should be glad that they are here legally, have the oppertunity to earn more that $2.50 an hour. Get healthcare when needed without having to worry about being deported.

Kicker · 03-10-2005, 05:40 PM

they are lucky..

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

He shouldn't have won a $4 million settlement. He should have been treated medically then sent back to where he came from.

He was working in an envoirment that was Illeagally unsafe for any type of workers.

Read what happened to him. Its not worth 4million

abstractAFFect · 03-10-2005, 05:42 PM

Ohh please,

EVERYONE in the US has been an illegal immagrant at some point.

That's how anthropology goes. I mean look at the govenor of California.

It's not like he was handing out crack to school kids.
He was contributing(illegally) to the economy and paying for it(legally) by SHITTY WAGES, SHITTY LIVING, SHIITY TREATMENT.

He was just trying to provide for his kids so THEY can be proud Americans. JUST LIKE YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS.

Idiot.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by abstractAFFect

Ohh please,

EVERYONE in the US has been an illegal immagrant at some point.

That's how anthropology goes. I mean look at the govenor of California.

It's not like he was handing out crack to school kids.
He was contributing(illegally) to the economy and paying for it(legally) by SHITTY WAGES, SHITTY LIVING, SHIITY TREATMENT.

He was just trying to provide for his kids so THEY can be proud Americans. JUST LIKE YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS.

Idiot.

You are mistaken
Shoehorns ancestors have always been american citizens. He is entited something other people are not

(sarcasim)

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

A criminal? What makes him a criminal. He was just another person trying to make it living life.

Being here illegal doesnt make him a crimial.
And what about other people. They should be glad that they are here legally, have the oppertunity to earn more that $2.50 an hour. Get healthcare when needed without having to worry about being deported.

Debating with this you is a waste of my time. You don't get it, and I can't understand why. It is illegal to live in this country without a Visa. It is also illegal here to work without a Visa. Staying here without that is illegal, same as killing someone is illegal. If you kill someone, that makes you a criminal. My ancestors came here from Greece with nothing and worked their asses off, and it paid off. Thats the difference between the old school European work ethic and todays work ethic. Immigrants then saw America as a land of opportunity, where hard work would pay off. Immigrants today see America as a free ride, where if they are sly enough and can work the system well enough then they will get something for nothing. This country doesn't owe anyone a goddamn, and it pisses me off when people think that it does.

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

You are mistaken
Shoehorns ancestors have always been american citizens. He is entited something other people are not

(sarcasim)

My ancestors came here legally and worked 18 hour days. Let's not make this a race issue or a immigration issue, its about whats wrong and whats right and $4 million is way out of line.

Nembrionic · 03-10-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

http://www.nysun.com/article/10200

How fucked up is this?

"Living in this country illegally and working off the books, he considered a lawsuit against his employer only after his brother visited an advocacy group in the city on his behalf, the injured worker said yesterday."

What are you whining about? Isn't this the superior american justice system at work?

They can now take that 4 million, have him pay taxes over it and kick him out of the country

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

Isn't this the superior american justice system at work?

Sad but true.

MetaMan · 03-10-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Idiots.
He was doing his job, probably getting paid shit money, in a shitty job envoirment.

He got injured, its the employers responsibility to pay his med bills and such.

He fell 30 feet.
And sustained grave injuries, including loss of vision in his right eye, brain damage, liver and kidney lacerations, a collapsed lung, loss of his sense of smell, and broken teeth.

If anything, he would pay that four million any day to not have to go trhough what he did.

yes i agree you are the idiot. he was working illegally.

thats like saying that because i am from amsterdam im going to go to thialand and smoke weed legally.

laws are laws, get back across the boarder senor'.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

Debating with this you is a waste of my time. You don't get it, and I can't understand why. It is illegal to live in this country without a Visa. It is also illegal here to work without a Visa. Staying here without that is illegal, same as killing someone is illegal. If you kill someone, that makes you a criminal. My ancestors came here from Greece with nothing and worked their asses off, and it paid off. Thats the difference between the old school European work ethic and todays work ethic. Immigrants then saw America as a land of opportunity, where hard work would pay off. Immigrants today see America as a free ride, where if they are sly enough and can work the system well enough then they will get something for nothing. This country doesn't owe anyone a goddamn, and it pisses me off when people think that it does.

Speeding is illeagal. Running a red light is illeagal. But you can compare that to killing someone?

The thing is you are missing the main point of the article.
Who cares if he was illeagal.

The company that employed him are criminals. They were breaking saftey laws.

They wernt providng basic saftey nets and harnesses. They owe this man to pay his bills and alll other things that he will need to live a normal life for the rest of his.

Tanker · 03-10-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

A criminal? What makes him a criminal. He was just another person trying to make it living life.

Being here illegal doesnt make him a crimial.

he was her illegally what part of that is not a criminal offense

he was being paid under the table and not paying taxes what part of that is not being a criminal

I dont know do you ?

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

yes i agree you are the idiot. he was working illegally.

thats like saying that because i am from amsterdam im going to go to thialand and smoke weed legally.

laws are laws, get back across the boarder senor'.

Its more like saying that if somoene gets shot in a shady neighbhorhood he shouldnt recieve medical help becuase he should not have been thier in the first place.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tanker

he was her illegally what part of that is not a criminal offense

he was being paid under the table and not paying taxes what part of that is not being a criminal

I dont know do you ?

No in that case the company hiring him are the criminals.
Im sure that if he could, he would become an american citizen and pay taxes and work leagally.

Nembrionic · 03-10-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tanker

he was being paid under the table

You know...he was receiving the money. Somebody was giving it him. That guy that was giving it to him was just as bad then!

I don't see anything about him hiring illegal immigrants and knowing about it being mentioned as a bad thing. And it is.

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Speeding is illeagal. Running a red light is illeagal. But you can compare that to killing someone?

The thing is you are missing the main point of the article.
Who cares if he was illeagal.

The company that employed him are criminals. They were breaking saftey laws.

They wernt providng basic saftey nets and harnesses. They owe this man to pay his bills and alll other things that he will need to live a normal life for the rest of his.

He was an illegal immigrant. If you are here illegally you aren't supposed to have the same rights as citizens. If I break into someones house and fall and get hurt I can sue them, I think thats bullshit too. To me this is more about the decay of American discretion than anything else.

Wolfy · 03-10-2005, 05:57 PM

this is like watching two brick walls talking to each other, you guys are so cute :D

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Its more like saying that if somoene gets shot in a shady neighbhorhood he shouldnt recieve medical help becuase he should not have been thier in the first place.

Come on, try to be reasonable.

flashfire · 03-10-2005, 05:58 PM

the legal system is fucked

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

He was an illegal immigrant. If you are here illegally you aren't supposed to have the same rights as citizens. If I break into someones house and fall and get hurt I can sue them, I think thats bullshit too. To me this is more about the decay of American discretion than anything else.

What happened to no more posting in this thread for you

Im not arguing your other point. Its not realted to this thread.

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire

the legal system is fucked

Exactly.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

Come on, try to be reasonable.

Im running a red light. Breaking the law, doing something illeagal.

I get hit by a truck.

In your POV, sinice i am a criminal doing something illegal i dont deserve help.

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

What happened to no more posting in this thread for you

What are you talking about?

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Im running a red light. Breaking the law, doing something illeagal.

I get hit by a truck.

In your POV, sinice i am a criminal doing something illegal i dont deserve help.

You just don't get it do you?

paxton · 03-10-2005, 06:04 PM

Your logic is faulty, Shoehorn. Yes, the employee was working in this country illegally. But the employer is just as culpable as the employee, as they knew the situation and should have a better understanding of the labor laws. Not to mention they also committed numerous other labor violations for which they were charged. Your argument also took a hit when you compared the criminality of murder to breaking less severe laws. Please keep things in perspective.

I can understand how one may feel the amount of the award was far too large, but this poor man is entitled to damages. The court agreed.

Case closed.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 06:04 PM

I do get it.

You are seing things in the POV that immigrants are bad.

He was working. The company was illeagally employing him and breaking saftey rules but you dont see them as bad guys.

Sparks · 03-10-2005, 06:04 PM

Illegals cost legitimate citizens and tax payers wayyyyyy too much money. It sucks, but such is life....

Alex · 03-10-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by paxton

Your logic is faulty, Shoehorn. Yes, the employee was working in this country illegally. But the employer is just as culpable as the employee, as they knew the situation and should have a better understanding of the labor laws. Not to mention they also committed numerous other labor violations for which they were charged. Your argument also took a hit when you compared the criminality of murder to breaking less severe laws. Please keep things in perspective.

I can understand how one may feel the amount of the award was far too large, but this poor man is entitled to damages. The court agreed.

Case closed.

Finially someone understands.

Shoehorn would like you to believe the this illeagal immigrant liked being illeagal and working in shitty envoirments, and not being able to work in a safe envoirment as required by law.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hostive

Illegals cost legitimate citizens and tax payers wayyyyyy too much money. It sucks, but such is life....

Ignorace.

Illeagals? Ass-fuck. Who's fault is it that they dont have the same oppertunity to get into this country as others do.

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I do get it.

You are seing things in the POV that immigrants are bad.

He was working. The company was illeagally employing him and breaking saftey rules but you dont see them as bad guys.

As stated previously, I never said immigration is bad, obviously this country was founded and built on the premise of immigrantion. I am saying that illegal immigration is bad. But what is worse, is when a court would give a $4 million settlement to someone living and working here illegally.

That was the point of this thread, that the system is fucked up.

fünkmaster · 03-10-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

You just don't get it do you?

... no, I think you don't get it, the guy got insured at work, it doesn't matter shit if he was in the country legal or illegal.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

As stated previously, I never said immigration is bad, obviously this country was founded and built on the premise of immigrantion. I am saying that illegal immigration is bad. But what is worse, is when a court would give a $4 million settlement to someone living and working here illegally.

That was the point of this thread, that the system is fucked up.

Why shouldnt the company that broke tons of laws, including hiring an illeagal immigrant, tax evasion, and saftey laws, shouldnt have to pay that settlement

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Why shouldnt the company that broke tons of laws, including hiring an illeagal immigrant, tax evasion, and saftey laws, shouldnt have to pay that settlement

If you really think $4 million is a fair settlement in this situation then I guess theres nothing more to say except we disagree.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

If you really think $4 million is a fair settlement then I guess theres nothing more to say except we disagree.

What are you bitching about. You are not paying.

You, yourself called the company that employed them criminals.
Why defend them

Alex · 03-10-2005, 06:18 PM

Yes, the man's life is runined.
4 million wont cut it

Shoehorn! · 03-10-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

What are you bitching about. You are not paying.

You, yourself called the company that employed them criminals.
Why defend them

The fact that judgements like this get awarded is what I am bitching about.

Alex · 03-10-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

The fact that judgements like this get awarded is what I am bitching about.

Why, becuase you are getting the 4mill

He fell 30 feet, fucked himself and is fucked for life.
And you have the nerve to bitch

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abstractAFFect Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 42	Ohh please, EVERYONE in the US has been an illegal immagrant at some point. That's how anthropology goes. I mean look at the govenor of California. It's not like he was handing out crack to school kids. He was contributing(illegally) to the economy and paying for it(legally) by SHITTY WAGES, SHITTY LIVING, SHIITY TREATMENT. He was just trying to provide for his kids so THEY can be proud Americans. JUST LIKE YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS. Idiot.

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