My take on the Juicy vs. Joesho thang....
 

Back in November/December of 2001, Lightspeed made an announcement that they were hiring me as a full time traveling photographer.

Parties were thrown, money was invested, and a lot of fun was had.

THEN....Towards the end of December....Steve Lightspeed decided that he did not like the way things were going. One of his specific concerns was that he felt I was a "loose cannon" especially on these boards.

At this point, the job offer was rescinded.

No contracts were ever signed. Only verbal agreements?His word, my word, and some ICQ logs.

Lightspeed knew my style and personality before he extended the job offer and yet he later made the decision to not follow through with it.

Although it created some issues between us...most important to me is that I lost out on what was potentially a great friendship with Steve....I never even thought about a lawsuit.

What's my point?

Once deals are struck....Sometimes people say or do things that may negatively impact others and those actions have ramifications that go beyond what people see on these boards. I said some things that Steve felt were not good for his business so he dealt with it in a way that he felt was the best?..And he was right in doing so.

I'm not sure which thread I read it in....May have even been this one... But Juicy clearly said that he found out some things AFTER the ball was already rolling on the project.

Whatever those things are, Juicy has decided to keep them to himself. Other options would be to stir even more drama and post his findings and so forth...But he didn't do that. This is not one of his games?It?s business.

Juicy has his reasons for doing what he did and it's not up to any of us to speculate as to what those reasons may be. Better for ALL parties involved for him to get out now rather than going into an arrangement that would be doomed to fail because of this.

If you think that politics are not involved in this industry...Think again.

I paid Juicy $17k to pull out of the deal, you read it here first.

And you're a fucking liar too.

nicely put aaron

Sucks either way for both parties..now that lawsuits are being mentioned

the situations are quite similar.. thanks for some insight

Really???

Big difference is...

Your deal was solid gold.

Umm...
Juicy's thing was a joke.

Yeah really.

Wanna buy a bridge?

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As to everything there are 2 sides to the story, or is it this side, that side, and the truth in the middle somewhere ? :2 cents:

I hear Rumsfeld had a threeway with Rice and Hilton

Is it one of those that comes fully assembled?

I like the way you put things Aaron in this post. I believe there should be more written contractual agreements being made on projects that have much time and money invested in them in this industry. -g.

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yep couldnt have said it better

talk is cheap :2 cents:

Kinda.


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Lawsuits?

You people out of your mind?
Neither of them can afford to talk to an attorney let alone retain one even if it were civily appointed!
WTF!

Oh god never mind...
DUMB PEOPLE ROCK! Go forth and spread your retardation!

I...

I am going go have a beer.

You clicked on an obscure link that Smokey posted?

WTF were you thinking?

It's not you're a newbie around here. You should have known better than to do that.

That was a little strange

Aaron, I can not respond to your allegations of calling me a liar on advice from my council.

thank you.

Sometimes you are dead nuts on. This is not one of those times.

LOL

Would look great in our livingroom... Bet the freight cost is pretty high though. Will have to sleep on it and let you know tomorrow :winkwink:

Poor fucker :Oh crap

READ my signature....

LOL - that is what I was thinking when I saw that!


anyway - great post Aaron.

isn't that what you paid KB LOL - sevindeenfiddy would have been believable.

Who the fuck cares anyway? Really? Besides the people invovled, go out get an attorney and get drunk.....or at least step outside and grab some air...

Well put Aaron. Are you and Steve still friends now?

I dont give a fuck...

I have not seen Juicy give one bit of fucken contribution to this board and the fucker has over 53,000 posts.

You would think by sheer luck of post volume somthing of substance would accidently be posted...

But never...

Its always the same lame drama and multiple nics...

Webmasters starting out need more than a good joke and lame drama.

This fake drama shit thats been going on for years now with that idiot is disruptive, stupid and completely annoying.
Sure we all need a good laugh in once a while but after almost 2 years of utter lameness I guess this is a breaking point.

The guys threads and his alt nics bury valueable threads and its rather just a loss for peeps trying to communicate things.

SO there is my official stance.

If I were Lens I would have banned em last year.

Tell yer momma I said hello.

That works. Just let me know.

It's currently sitting on private property in the Coast Range here in Oregon.

Unfortunately no. We talk from time to time but some things are simply too awkard to be repaired. I'm sure my sence of humor since the fact has not helped much either.

= no firefox :)

I wouldn't be surprise if Juicy woke up one day and thought to himself:

"This project is a really fucking dumb idea. It will never fucking work. If I tie my name to it people will forever remember that I was part of an idiotic idea that failed miserably!"

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AlienQ: Juicy makes more a day than you do a month you cockwitt.