My take on the Juicy vs. Joesho thang....

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  • AaronM
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    • Oct 2001
    • 46923

    #1

    My take on the Juicy vs. Joesho thang....

    Back in November/December of 2001, Lightspeed made an announcement that they were hiring me as a full time traveling photographer.

    Parties were thrown, money was invested, and a lot of fun was had.

    THEN....Towards the end of December....Steve Lightspeed decided that he did not like the way things were going. One of his specific concerns was that he felt I was a "loose cannon" especially on these boards.

    At this point, the job offer was rescinded.

    No contracts were ever signed. Only verbal agreements?His word, my word, and some ICQ logs.

    Lightspeed knew my style and personality before he extended the job offer and yet he later made the decision to not follow through with it.

    Although it created some issues between us...most important to me is that I lost out on what was potentially a great friendship with Steve....I never even thought about a lawsuit.

    What's my point?

    Once deals are struck....Sometimes people say or do things that may negatively impact others and those actions have ramifications that go beyond what people see on these boards. I said some things that Steve felt were not good for his business so he dealt with it in a way that he felt was the best?..And he was right in doing so.

    I'm not sure which thread I read it in....May have even been this one... But Juicy clearly said that he found out some things AFTER the ball was already rolling on the project.

    Whatever those things are, Juicy has decided to keep them to himself. Other options would be to stir even more drama and post his findings and so forth...But he didn't do that. This is not one of his games?It?s business.

    Juicy has his reasons for doing what he did and it's not up to any of us to speculate as to what those reasons may be. Better for ALL parties involved for him to get out now rather than going into an arrangement that would be doomed to fail because of this.

    If you think that politics are not involved in this industry...Think again.
  • BradShaw
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    • Oct 2001
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    #2
    I paid Juicy $17k to pull out of the deal, you read it here first.
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    • AaronM
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      • Oct 2001
      • 46923

      #3
      Originally posted by BradShaw
      I paid Juicy $17k to pull out of the deal, you read it here first.

      And you're a fucking liar too.

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      • TDF
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        • Mar 2002
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        #4
        nicely put aaron
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        • Spunky
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          #5
          Sucks either way for both parties..now that lawsuits are being mentioned

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          • SmokeyTheBear
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            #6
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            • tungsten
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              #7
              the situations are quite similar.. thanks for some insight
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              • Anna_O
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                • Oct 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by BradShaw
                I paid Juicy $17k to pull out of the deal, you read it here first.
                Really???


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                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                  • Mar 2003
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                  #9
                  Big difference is...

                  Your deal was solid gold.

                  Umm...
                  Juicy's thing was a joke.

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                  • AaronM
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                    • Oct 2001
                    • 46923

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Anna_O
                    Really???

                    Yeah really.

                    Wanna buy a bridge?

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                    • Dagwolf
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                      • Sep 2003
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by AaronM
                      And you're a fucking liar too.
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                      • Headless
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                        • Jan 2001
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by AaronM
                        And you're a fucking liar too.

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                        • JFK
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                          #13
                          As to everything there are 2 sides to the story, or is it this side, that side, and the truth in the middle somewhere ?

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                          • baddog
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                            #14
                            I hear Rumsfeld had a threeway with Rice and Hilton

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                            • Anna_O
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by AaronM
                              Wanna buy a bridge?
                              Is it one of those that comes fully assembled?


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                              • gage
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                                #16
                                I like the way you put things Aaron in this post. I believe there should be more written contractual agreements being made on projects that have much time and money invested in them in this industry. -g.

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                                • NoCarrier
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
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                                  • Satisfaction
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                                    #18
                                    yep couldnt have said it better

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                                    • baddog
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by spunky
                                      Sucks either way for both parties..now that lawsuits are being mentioned
                                      talk is cheap

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                                      • AaronM
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                                        • Oct 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Anna_O
                                        Is it one of those that comes fully assembled?
                                        Kinda.





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                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                          • Mar 2003
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                                          #21
                                          Lawsuits?

                                          You people out of your mind?
                                          Neither of them can afford to talk to an attorney let alone retain one even if it were civily appointed!
                                          WTF!

                                          Oh god never mind...
                                          DUMB PEOPLE ROCK! Go forth and spread your retardation!

                                          I...

                                          I am going go have a beer.
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                                          • AaronM
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by NoCarrier
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                                            You clicked on an obscure link that Smokey posted?

                                            WTF were you thinking?

                                            It's not you're a newbie around here. You should have known better than to do that.

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                                            • baddog
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by AaronM
                                              You clicked on an obscure link that Smokey posted?

                                              WTF were you thinking?
                                              That was a little strange

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                                              • BradShaw
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                                                • Oct 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Aaron, I can not respond to your allegations of calling me a liar on advice from my council.

                                                thank you.
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                                                • AaronM
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                  Lawsuits?

                                                  You people out of your mind?
                                                  Neither of them can afford to talk to an attorney let alone retain one even if it were civily appointed!
                                                  Sometimes you are dead nuts on. This is not one of those times.

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                                                  • Anna_O
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                                    Kinda.
                                                    LOL

                                                    Would look great in our livingroom... Bet the freight cost is pretty high though. Will have to sleep on it and let you know tomorrow


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                                                    • JFK
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      Poor fucker

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                                                      • NoComments
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                                                        #28
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                                                        • foolio
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by AaronM
                                                          You clicked on an obscure link that Smokey posted?

                                                          WTF were you thinking?

                                                          It's not you're a newbie around here. You should have known better than to do that.
                                                          LOL - that is what I was thinking when I saw that!


                                                          anyway - great post Aaron.

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                                                          • sherie
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                                                            • Feb 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            isn't that what you paid KB LOL - sevindeenfiddy would have been believable.

                                                            Who the fuck cares anyway? Really? Besides the people invovled, go out get an attorney and get drunk.....or at least step outside and grab some air...
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                                                            • ShaneRyale
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                                                              #31
                                                              Well put Aaron. Are you and Steve still friends now?
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                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                Sometimes you are dead nuts on. This is not one of those times.
                                                                I dont give a fuck...

                                                                I have not seen Juicy give one bit of fucken contribution to this board and the fucker has over 53,000 posts.

                                                                You would think by sheer luck of post volume somthing of substance would accidently be posted...

                                                                But never...

                                                                Its always the same lame drama and multiple nics...

                                                                Webmasters starting out need more than a good joke and lame drama.

                                                                This fake drama shit thats been going on for years now with that idiot is disruptive, stupid and completely annoying.
                                                                Sure we all need a good laugh in once a while but after almost 2 years of utter lameness I guess this is a breaking point.

                                                                The guys threads and his alt nics bury valueable threads and its rather just a loss for peeps trying to communicate things.

                                                                SO there is my official stance.

                                                                If I were Lens I would have banned em last year.
                                                                Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-13-2005, 05:33 PM.

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                                                                • AaronM
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                                                                  • Oct 2001
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                  Aaron, I can not respond to your allegations of calling me a liar on advice from my council.

                                                                  thank you.

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                                                                  • AaronM
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                                                                    • Oct 2001
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Anna_O
                                                                    LOL

                                                                    Would look great in our livingroom... Bet the freight cost is pretty high though. Will have to sleep on it and let you know tomorrow

                                                                    That works. Just let me know.

                                                                    It's currently sitting on private property in the Coast Range here in Oregon.

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                                                                    • AaronM
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                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 46923

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ShaneRyale
                                                                      Well put Aaron. Are you and Steve still friends now?

                                                                      Unfortunately no. We talk from time to time but some things are simply too awkard to be repaired. I'm sure my sence of humor since the fact has not helped much either.

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                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                        • Jun 2004
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by NoCarrier
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                                                                        • Donny
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          I wouldn't be surprise if Juicy woke up one day and thought to himself:

                                                                          "This project is a really fucking dumb idea. It will never fucking work. If I tie my name to it people will forever remember that I was part of an idiotic idea that failed miserably!"

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                                                                          • PerfectionGirls
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                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 4484

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                            I dont give a fuck...

                                                                            I have not seen Juicy give one bit of fucken contribution to this board and the fucker has over 53,000 posts.

                                                                            You would think by sheer luck of post volume somthing of substance would accidently be posted...

                                                                            But never...

                                                                            Its always the same lame drama and multiple nics...

                                                                            Webmasters starting out need more than a good joke and lame drama.

                                                                            This fake drama shit thats been going on for years now with that idiot is disruptive, stupid and completely annoying.
                                                                            Sure we all need a good laugh in once a while but after almost 2 years of utter lameness I guess this is a breaking point.

                                                                            The guys threads and his alt nics bury valueable threads and its rather just a loss for peeps trying to communicate things.

                                                                            SO there is my official stance.

                                                                            If I were Lens I would have banned em last year.
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                                                                            • TurboAngel
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                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 30122

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                              You clicked on an obscure link that Smokey posted?

                                                                              WTF were you thinking?

                                                                              It's not you're a newbie around here. You should have known better than to do that.


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                                                                              • Dazza
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                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                • 1598

                                                                                #40
                                                                                AlienQ: Juicy makes more a day than you do a month you cockwitt.

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                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                  • 28609

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                  I wouldn't be surprise if Juicy woke up one day and thought to himself:

                                                                                  "This project is a really fucking dumb idea. It will never fucking work. If I tie my name to it people will forever remember that I was part of an idiotic idea that failed miserably!"
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                                                                                  • SureFire
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                                                                                    • Jan 2003
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I always thought his (Juicy) posts were rather psychotic-like NOS. And pulling out didn?t surprise me since he was partnering with another NOS (Josheo).

                                                                                    But, hey, this is forum named GFY?.who knows maybe there another mastermind behind this for all the drama. The concept is/was good.
                                                                                    Last edited by SureFire; 02-13-2005, 05:48 PM.

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                                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                      • 28609

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by SureFire
                                                                                      But, hey, this is forum named GFY?.who knows maybe there another mastermind behind this for all the drama. The concept is/was good.

                                                                                      Im not so sure.. A good idea in theory maybe , but seriously.

                                                                                      The basic concept is , tell us your business strategy and your contacts , then give away free advice to noobs all for a tiny prize ??
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                                                                                      • Honeyslut
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        and I am the head case ? LOL
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                                                                                        • MrIzzz
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                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                          • 22923

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                          I dont give a fuck...

                                                                                          I have not seen Juicy give one bit of fucken contribution to this board and the fucker has over 53,000 posts.

                                                                                          You would think by sheer luck of post volume somthing of substance would accidently be posted...

                                                                                          But never...

                                                                                          Its always the same lame drama and multiple nics...

                                                                                          Webmasters starting out need more than a good joke and lame drama.

                                                                                          This fake drama shit thats been going on for years now with that idiot is disruptive, stupid and completely annoying.
                                                                                          Sure we all need a good laugh in once a while but after almost 2 years of utter lameness I guess this is a breaking point.

                                                                                          The guys threads and his alt nics bury valueable threads and its rather just a loss for peeps trying to communicate things.

                                                                                          SO there is my official stance.

                                                                                          If I were Lens I would have banned em last year.

                                                                                          who are you again?

                                                                                          why do you bother even coming to this board then?

                                                                                          go post where you're wanted


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                                                                                          • Sly
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by PerfectionGirls


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                                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                                                                              who are you again?

                                                                                              why do you bother even coming to this board then?

                                                                                              go post where you're wanted
                                                                                              Oh if you only knew...
                                                                                              Sure I could post else where...
                                                                                              Infact I have been offered money just to keep things alive at other places.
                                                                                              GFY though has the largest influx of new webmasters.

                                                                                              Thats where the meat is pal...
                                                                                              And all your partner can do is talk about his fucken hair and some dumb blow up sheep doll.

                                                                                              Please...
                                                                                              Some say I have waisted alot of opportunity being the way I am but ya know what...

                                                                                              I never needed a side show to get exposure while killing decent threads with topics of substance to gain notoriety.
                                                                                              Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-13-2005, 06:10 PM.

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                                                                                              • xxxdesign-net
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                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                • 10129

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                                                                                who are you again?

                                                                                                why do you bother even coming to this board then?

                                                                                                go post where you're wanted
                                                                                                dont mind AlienQ.. he's got this funny confidence in himself lately... He sometimes even sound like he thinks he is brilliant or something... above the rest.. throwing words like "idots", "dumbfucks", etc.. every 2 posts.. Cracks me up everytime..

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                                                                                                • MrIzzz
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                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                  • 22923

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                  Oh if you only knew...
                                                                                                  Sure I could post else where...
                                                                                                  Infact I have been offered money just to keep things alive at other places.
                                                                                                  GFY though has the largest influx of new webmasters.

                                                                                                  Thats where the meat is pal...
                                                                                                  And all your partner can do is talk about his fucken hair and some dumb blow up sheep doll.

                                                                                                  Please...
                                                                                                  Some say I have waisted alot of opportunity being the way I am but ya know what...

                                                                                                  I never needed a side show to get exposure while killing decent threads with topics of substance to gain notoriety.
                                                                                                  you're jealousy at the attention juicy gets is a little childish no?

                                                                                                  lol, if only you KNEW


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                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 30307

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                    dont mind AlienQ.. he's got this funny confidence in himself lately... He sometimes even sound like he thinks he is brilliant or something... above the rest.. throwing words like "idots", "dumbfucks", etc.. every 2 posts.. Cracks me up everytime..
                                                                                                    Says the designer who couldnt draw a straight line using ctrl+shift.

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