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Damian_Maxcash 02-07-2005 07:09 PM

If you use NameCheap or enom read this......
 
I made a post yesterday about a NameCheap registered domain being withdrawn, they gave no notification and no reason.

It turns out that NameCheap is just an Enom reseller..... and I received this a few hours ago.

"We received several spam complaints concerning this domain name. In accordance with our zero tolerance spam policy, the domain has been disabled and will remain so as to prevent further abuse. We are not in position to re-enable the domain, thus empowering the offender to continue the abusive behavior. Our goal is to be 100% spam free, and strides are being taken in order to attain this goal. We feel that our new policy will benefit all eNom customers, as well as all internet users.

Regards,

eNom, Inc."

I do some spam but not email spam and not with THIS domain.

I have received NO notification about a change in policy from Enom or NameCheap, has anyone else? Let me know if you have.

THis is the same game that GoDaddy have been playing and all of you need to watch this carefully.

I have asked them to send copies of the alledged email spam with headers and am waiting to hear, I will let you know.

Odin88 02-07-2005 07:12 PM

Oh uh. Time to change registrars for a lot of people.

Alex 02-07-2005 07:13 PM

you just found that out.
Most all domain registers are enom resellers unless they have the ICANN approved logo on their site

jazzll 02-07-2005 07:20 PM

Man that sucks.

I won't be using them anymore.

I've heard a lot of great things about:
http://www.natnames.com/
http://www.directnic.com/

Neither re-sell ENOM

jazzll 02-07-2005 07:22 PM

Can the Domain pimps give any advice about this?
DomBuyer? Taboo?

Where do you recommend purchasing domains for adult use?

Can't your competitors just e-mail your registrar and say you've been spamming when you HAVE NOT? Just to destroy you and your site for a few days/week? For a 100k/day TGP that would be suicide

Damian_Maxcash 02-07-2005 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
you just found that out.
Most all domain registers are enom resellers unless they have the ICANN approved logo on their site

I always assumed they are ICANN approved.

It seems to me they are acting as Judge, Jury and Executioner in this and are not looking at any facts.

Want to fuck someone over? Just send a spam complaint to Enom and they are gone!

Also if they change policy shouldnt current customers be informed?

Steen2 02-07-2005 07:35 PM

Both NameCheap and RegisterFly resell for eNom on most levels. NameCheap was also dealing with OpenSRS as well, registerfly is a direct registrar of .TV I believe.

Regardless; I like both eNom (direct) and Moniker, myself.

Antonio 02-07-2005 07:43 PM

These idiots are getting more pathetic by the day. They'll shut your domain after one complain, without even bodering to investigate? Is that all it takes?
Fuckers !!!

sacX 02-07-2005 07:45 PM

called them?

Damian_Maxcash 02-07-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX
called them?

Not yet

Im waiting to see the email and headers..... I will give it a few hours

I will call NameCheap as well, I have a feeling that they will get pissed off with this new Enom policy.... They have a good rep and have built the business on word of mouth to a large extent, and wont want to fuck it up now

TheMob 02-07-2005 08:07 PM

enom is not doing this for ethical reasons. they couldn't care less as long they make their money. it's pressure from above.

Damian_Maxcash 02-07-2005 10:51 PM

.................

Steen2 02-07-2005 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMob
enom is not doing this for ethical reasons. they couldn't care less as long they make their money. it's pressure from above.

Care to explain who's pressuring eNom?

SomeCreep 02-07-2005 10:59 PM

Interesting. I believe it is not the place of a domain registrar to enforce any kind of spam or abuse policy, except in extreme cases of illegal activity such as CP, etc...

Namecheap and godaddy are both on my "Registrars to avoid list".

pornguy 02-07-2005 11:01 PM

I thought that Namecheap was above this shit. FUCK!

Vlad 02-07-2005 11:20 PM

my suggestion is register dot com :thumbsup

Trax 02-08-2005 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy
I thought that Namecheap was above this shit. FUCK!

same here

xclusive 02-08-2005 02:38 AM

wow that's shitty

AaronM 02-08-2005 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001
Not yet

Im waiting to see the email and headers..... I will give it a few hours

I will call NameCheap as well, I have a feeling that they will get pissed off with this new Enom policy.... They have a good rep and have built the business on word of mouth to a large extent, and wont want to fuck it up now


I may be able to help you out.

What's your ICQ number?

nico-t 02-08-2005 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy
I thought that Namecheap was above this shit. FUCK!

yeah, this shit is fucked up....

swedguy 02-08-2005 03:45 AM

http://www.enom.com/terms/agreement.asp

Quote:

SERVICE(S) PROVIDED AT WILL AND TERMINATION OF SERVICE(S): We and your Primary Service Provider may reject your domain name registration application or elect to discontinue providing Service(s) to you for any reason within 30 days of a Service initiation or a Service renewal. Outside of this period, we and your Primary Service Provider may terminate or suspend the Service(s) at any time for cause, which, without limitation, includes registration of prohibited domain name(s), abuse of the Services, payment irregularities, serious allegations of illegal conduct, or if your use of the Services involves us in a violation of any Internet Service Provider's ("ISP's") acceptable use policies, including the transmission of unsolicited bulk email. If we have grounds to terminate or suspend Service(s) to one domain name or in relation to other Service(s) provided through your account, we may terminate or suspend all Service(s) provided through your account, including Service(s) to other domain names. No fee refund will be made when there is a suspension or termination of Service(s) for cause. At any time and for any reason, we may terminate the Services upon 30 day notice, which notice will be considered received by you five days after it is transmitted via mail or email to the WHOIS contact information provided in association with your domain name registration. Following notice of termination other than for cause, you must transfer your domain name or risk that we may delete your domain name or suspend or modify Services to it. If we terminate Services for a reason other than cause, we will attempt to refund your fees. You further acknowledge and agree that your registration of a domain name is subject to suspension, cancellation or transfer by any ICANN procedure, by any registrar or registry administrator procedures approved by an ICANN-adopted policy, to correct mistakes by us, another registrar or the registry administrator in administering the domain name or for the resolution of disputes concerning the domain name.

Groove 02-08-2005 03:53 AM

Having a policy where anyone with a grudge can lodge a spam
complaint and have your site shut-down is ridiculous! :Oh crap

vicki 02-08-2005 06:17 AM

I wouldn't use anyone but domainnamesystems for two good reasons

1. as I just mentioned in another 'hijacked domain' thread, they have one of only 10 people in the world that are certified computer security forensics working for them.

2. the ceo is an ex pornster and knows how important domain security is to business.

jazzll 02-08-2005 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki
I wouldn't use anyone but domainnamesystems for two good reasons

1. as I just mentioned in another 'hijacked domain' thread, they have one of only 10 people in the world that are certified computer security forensics working for them.

2. the ceo is an ex pornster and knows how important domain security is to business.

Interesting....

I'll research them before using them.

Their homepage is very bad.

jimmyf 02-08-2005 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMob
enom is not doing this for ethical reasons. they couldn't care less as long they make their money. it's pressure from above.

this is correct..

Moniker Man 02-08-2005 08:19 AM

Moniker.com will take care of you
 
Hey Folks,

I was forwarded this thread by a few Moniker Customers that saw it. As many of your know, Moniker is one of the only registrars dedicated to the Adult and high competition industry as well as mainstream. We attend the majority of the Adult shows and focus on the very highest security, service at the best value in terms of price. We take care of WRS, PeCash, TeN, UltSearch, Netster, TRFCN, and many others.

Do yourselves a favor and do not have your valuable inventories with resellers or you will get screwed. They do not control terms and conditions and your names can be shut down without notice and even removed. Namescheap, Registerfly, domainnamesystems, are all resellers. Godaddy has been shutting down names without notice as well because they are trying to clean up before they go public - quite ironic if you saw their superbowl ad.

In any case, just email me at [email protected] and we will assist you with your domains. We provide legal notices, filter complaints, provide warnings prior to taking actions, totally protect from domain theft, and provide ICANN compliant whois privacy services.

Let me know how we can help.

[email protected]

Taboo 02-08-2005 09:04 AM

another reason for me to get ICANN-accredited and set up my own registrar.

:disgust

.

MickeyG 02-08-2005 09:06 AM

im sure spamhaus is the one applying the pressure. "Drop the domains or end up on our blacklist". Thats what godaddy claimed before revoking 40 domains from me.

Monkier how are you guys with email spam compliants will you shut down my domain?

DNS-Gord 02-08-2005 09:16 AM

Class Act Monte

We are one of the largest registrars on the face of the earth, and exceed your numbers (yours are public, mine aren't)

While we are not Icann accredited directly, and I make no bones about it, we are one of the largest with Tucows. When was the last time Tucows did anything without notification? We stay with them for a variety of reasons, least of which is we have some clout in the matter.

We use them for the stability of our clients. They ARE a public company, and I know the CEO personally, as well as the entire staff which we have both grown together over the years. We have a great rapport together, and our business models mesh nicely. Their policies are such that they will not pretend to police the internet (other than correctness of registrant information), and in many cases we have special arrangements with them. We handle the spam complaints directly (and yes, have been SpamHaus blacklisted because of it). I will not begin to police the internet, and will not allow our suppliers to begin that practice either. We have been with them since they began (so we have been around as long as them).

eNom has always been crap from day one. I have a long list of reasons, which I won't go into it here, except to say, you may remember DROA (another eNom reseller at one point).

and Monte, our client roster (whose privacy I respect and won't post publicly), is among the who's who in the adult world, and there is a reason they are with us, and not you. I'll let them come forth directly if they so chose. They know why they deal with us, fast courteous responsive service from 2 locations (US and Canada), and I wont post their names on message boards to further my financial cause.

and finally we do have some accreditations, we just chose not to brown nose to Icann directly, for the most part I still view them as an illegal entity. MOST accredited registrars have less than 50,000 names in their portfolios, and you certainly are not among the big boys. Hell many resellers, even DirectNic which has been around almost as long as us, kicks the shit out of your numbers.(lol.. there's a plug for you Mike).

It would appear though that we have one thing in common, my email inbox was filled by our clients showing me this thread.


and yes, my main web page is crap, the goodies are inside :)

and thank you Vicki for that post. Yes, our Director of Technology is one of the VERY FEW CERTIFIED computer forensic (NCSF) specialists in the world. Its not widely advertised, but I guess it is now...lol

http://www.domainnamesystems.com
Since 1999

:)

Taboo 02-08-2005 09:31 AM

Monte vs Gord

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

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vicki 02-08-2005 09:37 AM

hey goRd

I just saw your postcount you NOOB roflmao

*I can't believe you actually posted on the BOARD!* lol
sabout time I say

Dildozer 02-08-2005 09:39 AM

Fuck i just transfered important domains from godaddy to namecheap yesterday :mad:

Anyone else got their shit yanked because of complaints?

donsimon 02-08-2005 09:41 AM

Just an FYI, shutting down domains for spam is an internal policy not an ICANN policy.

Enom has some new management in place so that could be where this is coming from.

In most cases the only time we as domain registrars are required to do anything with shutting down a domain is if it has invalid WHOIS information. Technically, I don't have to shut down phising sites or anything. Unless I get a request from some government agency.

If I receive a spam complaint, my policy is simple, I check my own email to see if I have received a spam advertising that same domain. If so, I put the domain on hold, end of story. I receive close to about 4000 emails a day, with about 90% of them being spam. So I have a nice inventory of spam to check against.

So the only "pressure from above" that I can think of that Enom would be getting is from their new management or their bandwidth provider (if they are hosting DNS).

Just my 2.5 cents.

Donny
directNIC.com

swedguy 02-08-2005 09:41 AM

One registrar trash talking another doesn't look very good.

vicki 02-08-2005 09:41 AM

lmao taboo


no contest

nudecanada 02-08-2005 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki
I wouldn't use anyone but domainnamesystems for two good reasons

1. as I just mentioned in another 'hijacked domain' thread, they have one of only 10 people in the world that are certified computer security forensics working for them.

2. the ceo is an ex pornster and knows how important domain security is to business.

I have tons of domains with them, and have never had a problem. Well worth the price! :thumbsup

MickeyG 02-08-2005 09:48 AM

I swear by Directnic, been with them for 4 years now without a single problem. Its well worth the extra $

DNS-Gord 02-08-2005 09:50 AM

Vicki .. stop messing with me ..lol

Taboo .. lol

Donny ..

you are absolutely correct in your assertion. Its an internal policy, period. Icann makes no demands of its registrars to police content, or the use of a domain name. Thats for the FTC and other agencies.


Hey, its post #2 .. lol

Taboo 02-08-2005 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donsimon
If I receive a spam complaint, my policy is simple, I check my own email to see if I have received a spam advertising that same domain. If so, I put the domain on hold, end of story.


what does "ON HOLD" mean to you? are there ways for owner to dispute? reclaim? re-instate? transfer out? is their a 30-day notification window?

vickyQ 02-08-2005 10:03 AM

someone somewhere said - I'm not that rich to buy cheap things.

proved to be tru in this case


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