Registrar-hold was originally created by NSI to say that a domain still exists, but it shouldn't work. Basically it's just not published in the zone file.

Each registrar uses registrar-hold for different reasons. When a domain expires, we put the domain on registrar-hold, but if the registrant renews the domain it's off of hold and resolving in 5 minutes (in theory 5 minutes). If somebody spams or whatever, we can put a domain on registrar-hold so the domain doesn't work anymore.

That pretty much explains registrar-hold, it's a registry level feature, not a registrar level.

Donny

ok, but one more time:

are there ways for owner to dispute? reclaim? re-instate? transfer out? is their a 30-day notification window?

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thanks...

Taboo, Who would you use if you were to purchase a domain for adult use?

I've used many registrars for this with no problem... even godaddy (though some people here hate them). One major factor for me is customer support and GD has it 24 hours a day via telephone. yes you heard it right. LOL. yeah, they may laugh when we discuss an adult domain but they always tell me they've seen worse or better. One rep even told me she loves porn and wants me to email her when I launch that domain.

The most important thing is to make contact with your registrar, talk to them, let them know who you are and treat the reps/managers with respect so that when you really need their help, they are there for you.

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It depends on what it is. If it's invalid WHOIS in our case yes. Some registrars delete domains because of invalid WHOIS, but we don't, we just lock them down.

But it all depends on what the situation is.

Donny

so instead of moving my domains to another registar, sucking up to namecheap employees is the only other way to save my ass in the future when they decide to block my domains. Damn! :Oh crap

Damn that suck big time, I have some domains in my enom account.. times to transfert them all !

sucking up? :) I didn't say to buy them gifts or kiss their ass. I said that you should treat them with respect, call them and ask questions BEFORE you have problems, so they know that you exist. LOL. and try to get a dedicated account manager / rep.

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Gord - I certainly was not bashing you or domainnamesystems. Vicki stated that she used the registrar - domainnamesystems and others think they are using ICANN Accredited Registrars when they are not - they are using resellers.

Being a previous reseller for many registrars, I know for a fact that there are challenges serving customers and abiding by a registrars rules that you sell for when your methodologies may be different.

I know that you provide a great service for many on this forum as we do so please do not take my message the wrong way. As a matter of fact, you should probably be working more with us in the near future as we offer a lot of similar products and services.

In any case, as a general rule for everyone - be careful using resellers that you do not have personal relationships with.

BTW, we manage more than 1.3M domains so if all of our domains were shown from all registrars we run I guess we would be ranked as #9 in terms of size among 450+ registrars. Just want to make sure you have the right numbers for comparison purposes....which really is not the issue or point here.

In any case, let's work together to help everyone else here having issues.

thanks

51 bad domains :)

Good dialogue. Nice to see registrars jumping in here and giving us their feedback.

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I'll check out http://www.moniker.com/

Thanks Moniker Man.

Also, why does it say "blacklisted" for your domain:
http://whois.sc/moniker.com
http://whois.sc/rbl/?ip=64.49.213.249

Does Moniker have live 24/7 support, including holidays?

Blacklisted - that's not good ... does Moniker send out bulk email advertising?

Ron

Monte, what's your bulk price for xfer/reg domains?

1000+?
10000+?

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What is that? I mean what makes this so great?

How stupid do you have to be to not know that Namecheap wasn't an enom reseller?

There's a relatively "new" thing called a WHOIS search. In the WHOIS search, you can see your WHOIS server information.

Just goes to show... Karma to the email spammers.

:1orglaugh

I didnt know because I didnt look..... I assumed they were ICANN acredited, and didnt see the need to check it out.... If I had seen a need to look I am perfectly aware of what 'whois' is

Its irrelevent to the general point of the origional post anyway

Oh yes and....... :321GFY

The point is that u dont need to be a spammer to have the domain withdrawn

U just need to piss off someone and have them send an email to the registrar saying you are.

Is adultnex.com your domain BTW? I see that it was registered with GoDaddy, they are one of the registrars that will pull a domain with a single unverified complaint ........ Of course I wouldnt do a thing like that to you, but I could, see the problem? :winkwink:

Apparently, you were bitching before you even contacted Namecheap directly to sort things out.

My experience with Namecheap was that they'd go head over heels to try and help you with a issue you're having.

I don't see how there would be any connection between being ICANN accredited and not being a reseller. Hell, I'd say most of the top 10% of ICANN accredited registrars are resellers.

No, I don't own adultnex.com anymore. I wouldn't touch Godaddy with a 10-foot pole with an adult domain.

Lest it be forgotten, GoDaddy also gobbles your domain for alleged referrer marketing. They don't need proof. ZAP. It happened to us, because a tool we sold had our domain as its default user-agent string.

Fair enough Monte.

I just hate like hell to be brushed with the same stroke as eNom resellers, and when I am faced with what I and my clients believed to be Domain Name Systems bashing by a registrar, and being wiped with the same swath as eNom resellers, yes, I may have misread your intentions with the post.

We are not equal, in what I believe to be any respect, with eNom resellers, and I did try eNom at one point, so yes, this isn't simply 'competition' bashing. Again, I have my reasons.

Because we are accredited for several extentions, our business is on par to that of other registrars, and we have been in business since there were only 5 registrars of the Icann variety.

These actions are really not that surprising by Enom or for that matter GoDaddy. You have to wonder how much a registrar will back their clients, when they are only making 10 or 20 cents a domain name. Its small wonder that some just shut the domain off.

Good luck with your continued growth Monte, I am certain our paths will cross again.


Best Regards
Gord
http://www.domainnamesystems.com


You can put away the popcorn Taboo .. lol

but we love popcorn and "fake drama" :1orglaugh

GORD, what's your bulk pricing?

1000+
10000+

you get what you pay for.. dont be so cheap and go with a real company that wont just lock domains for no reason

TabooDomains.com?

hey! another vicki
... well at least you spell your name differently, i'd hate for people to get us mixed up lol

Monte,

I am going to have to agree with Gordon here. I represent NameCheap.com and I think your post lacks total class. Keep your sales pitches to your own thread rather than attacking our reputation(which we have worked VERY hard for) in a thread that involves us. Just because we are a re-seller does not mean that people are going to get screwed. If anything, because of our size, enom listens MORE to what we say. We have direct communication all the way up to the CEO. If we do not think something is fair we will make it known and in most cases something will get done. Otherwise we will take our business is elsewhere(and that is ALOT of business to lose). You make it seem like you offer bullet proof DNS which is not the case so stop pretending it is. You also insinuate that you are the only one that supports adult clientele which is also not the case.

Damon,
Please send me an email with the subject "ATTENTION: Richard Kirkendall" and I will see what I kind find out about your situation. I know enom does not shut down domains just because Joe Schmoe sends and email to complain. There has to be actual evdidence there. Anyways let me know and I will do my absolute best to correct any injustices done if that is in fact the case.

Best,

Richard Kirkendall
NameCheap.com

And yes, we were REALLY referred here by one of our clients and not just using that as an excuse to spam our services.....

Richard, so what does it take for Enom to pull a domain? Alot of people have moved from godaddy as a result of having this hanging over them, and I know alot people encouraged namecheap as a safe alternative. I have been registering all my domains there, and whilst I don't bulk mail I do mail optin and I know no matter what on the scale I mail it generates complaints. I am seriously considering now moving to another register due to the manner in which people like enom seem to deal with these issues (you have the domain one day, than it is pulled next). I honestly think you should talk to enom more and make them guarantee to give plenty of warning and time for a webmaster to at least dispute the claims, or you might loose a bit of business. Personally, I don't think domain registrars should have the power over these kinds of things, and I honestly think you should find a way to make sure domains don't get pulled save for extreme circumstances, and even than the webmaster is given prior warning and time to defend themselves.

Odin,

If you are sending out to opt-in lists there should be no problems with this.

If you ever have issues with this let me know and I will make sure to be on top of it. Believe me, if enom where to begin to shut down domains simply because they received an email complaint from someone(with no evidence to back it up) we would definitely consider this a serious issue and do something about it.

I know opt in lists generate complaints no matter what, and like I said on the scale I send they generate enough. If enom or namecheap isn't going to contact me before pulling my domain than it is going to loose me hundred's/thousand's of dollars worth of traffic when that domain gets ripped out from under me. If Namecheap can't guarantee to at least provide a good amount of prior time and a chance for the webmaster to defend themselves I really don't see how I can risk that kind of money. I haven't had any problems up until now, but I don't want any either. If enom wants to act like the judge, jury and executioner than they sure as hell better listen to both sides of the story before coming down with a verdict.

sux because spoofing the sender is so damn easy..

Its great to see someone from NameCheap in here ... I said in a previous post that they have a reputation built on word of mouth - and this proves that this reputaion is well founded.

I have sent Richard an email (to [email protected]) with the details and it will be interesting to see what they and Enom say about the situation. Its difficult because I have an expectation of privacy, and I know NameCheap will respect that.

As always I will keep u informed......

I would say that statement is in all probability bullshit - pure and simple. From reading the thread there seems a better than good chance that Enom are bowing to pressure from Spamhaus or similar.

As anyone with half a clue in this business is aware, Spamhaus are little more than a bunch of vigilante assholes with a huge hard on for 'fighting spam' that are VERY indiscriminate about who and what they block and will do so on the flimsiest of evidence.

Indeed as most know, often they will not only block just the offender but anyone even close to being on the same IP block as a 'punishment' to the naughty host for allowing it in the first place.

As has also been mentioned it is more than possible to run your own legit double opt in style program, making 100% sure every mail was from someone that signed to YOUR list, and still get a lot of complaints from idiots if done on a large scale (the wife/boss sees the porn but of course it was never requested and must be spam so they'll complain). In this situation Spamhaus will usually be more than happy to shove yet another 'evil spammer' on their list and again also blacklist those even more innocent sharing that IP block.

Don't get me wrong - I truly despise true spam and spammers. But then I also despise vigilante assholes with only half a clue who decide that they are going to be the world police for spam. Give someone like that a little power and...

Spamhaus et al do far more to make e-mail unusable than any spammer (be on the wrong IP block and see how many people actually get your mails) and for people such as domain companies to listen to them too is insane.

Again, I am presuming it is a Spamhaus or similar issue as at least one major domain company has said it already bows to them. Even if not many of the points are still very valid.

Are you kidding?
 

Gord,

I would use namecheap or moniker or ANYONE before using your service. To claim YOU are lilly white is in conflict with your past behavior. I would NEVER trust a domain to YOU. NEVER!!! Maybe folks don't know your history and it is not for me to tell them. BUT I DO!

Damian, please excuse me as I forgot to mention this; please forward the email to [email protected] or [email protected] with attention to me.



Thanks.

Round 2...

everyone vs. everyone... registrar deathmatch

did anyone bring the:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

this is a great thread. even more reasons to move forward with my plan.

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:warning wow. Rick came out of his way for this? HOLY SH!T.

Rick, I'm still pissed off at you for costing me extra years ago on ModelingAgency.com :)

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