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The Apprentice 12-04-2004 06:15 PM

What CAN'T I sell a membership for?
 
If I wanted to start a paysite, could I grab a bunch of my favorite pics of Kazaa or whoever and sell them?

Illicit 12-04-2004 06:16 PM

sure why not ? you have a bright future ahead of you

bangman 12-04-2004 06:16 PM

No. You need to either purchase content or shoot your own (with the right legal docs).
What you are talking about doing is completely illegal.

Jace 12-04-2004 06:20 PM

holy shit

you are now on my ignore list...sorry dude, i thought you at least knew something about the industry

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 06:22 PM

I've seen it done before- There are ways around it.

Aquarius 12-04-2004 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
I've seen it done before- There are ways around it.
OMFG!

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by Aquarius
OMFG!
N00b!

detoxed 12-04-2004 06:29 PM

Of course you can

Dalai lama 12-04-2004 06:29 PM

no comment

baddog 12-04-2004 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
N00b!
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oliphant/oa048.jpg

baddog 12-04-2004 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
holy shit

you are now on my ignore list...sorry dude, i thought you at least knew something about the industry

he talked a good game for about 5 minutes

misty_dayz 12-04-2004 06:34 PM

You most certainly can.....it would be an added bonus though if your dad was a lawyer and would work for free and you always wanted a date called Big Bubba

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by misty_dayz
You most certainly can.....it would be an added bonus though if your dad was a lawyer and would work for free and you always wanted a date called Big Bubba
C'mon, now. I thought you guys knew something abobut the biz.

I've seen many sites selling memberships to a vault of "OWN3D" and "PRICELESS" pics.

I suppose they're breaking the law?
Why are they not in jail.

pornguy 12-04-2004 06:43 PM

Is this another Juicy nic??

Smells like one.

SinBucks 12-04-2004 06:44 PM

Yikes, sorry this has bad idea written all over it:ak47:

JamesK2 12-04-2004 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
C'mon, now. I thought you guys knew something abobut the biz.

I've seen many sites selling memberships to a vault of "OWN3D" and "PRICELESS" pics.

I suppose they're breaking the law?
Why are they not in jail.

You're the dumbest piece of shit surfer that has ever stranded here.

Please go study.

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 06:45 PM

What the hell is up with you peoples attutudes?

Jace 12-04-2004 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
he talked a good game for about 5 minutes
no shit man...i really thought he knew at least a little something from all his "friends" in teh industry

apparently they didn't teach him much while he was serving them drinks

Jace 12-04-2004 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
What the hell is up with you peoples attutudes?
you just asked a forum full of people that produce, direct and slave hard on making THE EXACT CONTENT YOU ARE ASKING IF YOU CAN STEAL
get it?

you just basically flat out asked to steal from 30-40% of this board....

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
no shit man...i really thought he knew at least a little something from all his "friends" in teh industry

apparently they didn't teach him much while he was serving them drinks


You're a dick. I asked a question. Thanks for the "troll."

sean416 12-04-2004 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
C'mon, now. I thought you guys knew something abobut the biz.

I've seen many sites selling memberships to a vault of "OWN3D" and "PRICELESS" pics.

I suppose they're breaking the law?
Why are they not in jail.

I've tried helping you, but let me put it to you straight.

You are asking a fucking retarded question that would be clearly answered and explained had you done any amount of research what so ever. You are asking questions that are completely newbie, and you have received a lot of help. But when you lash back at people and call them 'n00b', it makes me feel sorry I spent any time trying to help you at all. Don't get angry at other people cause they arent willing to spoon feed you. The information about this subject is out there, go READ it. google.com has more information about this industry then you'll ever be able to read, but you could atleast try and educate yourself about the basics before you ask questions. Questions should be used wisely, as tools to help guide you through your path. Questions aren't a tool for the lazy, no one will spoon feed you.

"People sell pictures of 'priceless' pics"

1) They are not nude photos of models. They do not require 2257 information. They arent legal, but they arent in the adult business so it's comparing apples and oranges.

2) Beleive or not, someone owns those pictures/movies you download on kazaa. So put yourself in the other persons shoes (it could very well be people who are a member of this board) You start up a site, work your ass off, promote your biz, etc. Then someone steals your work and charges people for it.. is that okay? Of course not. It's copywritten material, the internet is not the wild west.

3) Adult sites have to be individually approved by VISA, the days of stealing content and charging memberships are LONG gone. You have to maintain a chargeback ration < %1 or else you lose your ability to process transactions online.

I could go on, but I really feel like this is begining to be a waste of time explaining things to you. GOOGLE is your friend, use it before you make an ass of yourself.

Jace 12-04-2004 06:56 PM

thanks sean for typing out all that...i just don't have the energy for newbs I used to...LOL

Funky Bastard 12-04-2004 06:57 PM

LOL You can do it if you want but It will be a waste your setting yourself up to fail from the start. You need to start at the bottom and work your way up start with a tgp and submit gallery's learn the game then move up you cant just pop up on gfy and think your going to run a paysite it dont work like that!

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 07:00 PM

Look, do you want to get back on topic?


There's a site called consumption junction- I know they're 100% legit. And there's a couple more sites just like it. They have content ranging from people being decapatated to extreme fetish/ gore and nude cameron dias videos.

A lot of it is free, but they sell access to parts of the site. So, this is where it get's confusing, and based on your replies- it seems like it's confusing to you guys too. :thumbsup

Do they sell the content they buy, whilst using free shit (stolen to you guys) to push it?

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 07:02 PM

HKS
12-05-2004 01:57 AM
This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

What...The...Fuck? :question

Jace 12-04-2004 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
Look, do you want to get back on topic?


There's a site called consumption junction- I know they're 100% legit. And there's a couple more sites just like it. They have content ranging from people being decapatated to extreme fetish/ gore and nude cameron dias videos.

A lot of it is free, but they sell access to parts of the site. So, this is where it get's confusing, and based on your replies- it seems like it's confusing to you guys too. :thumbsup

Do they sell the content they buy, whilst using free shit (stolen to you guys) to push it?

consumption junction uses the loophole in the law that states that they just republish things that have already been circulated

plus they have an in house lawyer that could probably put most porn lawyers to shame...an in house lawyer helps a little bit

and also, some of sites you are referring to are hosted in places that are not protected byt the same laws you abide by

Jace 12-04-2004 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
HKS
12-05-2004 01:57 AM
This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

What...The...Fuck? :question

funny i get that too

wonder why?

n3in 12-04-2004 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
If I wanted to start a paysite, could I grab a bunch of my favorite pics of Kazaa or whoever and sell them?
dont bother, there's no money in porn

steve90 12-04-2004 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
N00b!
so you want to post content you don?t own the copyright's too or records proving they are of age. go for it mabye you can write us from jail.


also gonna put you on ignore.

Jace 12-04-2004 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by steve90
so you want to post content you don?t own the copyright's too or records proving they are of age. go for it mabye you can write us from jail
shit, jail ain't even the worst part of it...if one of those companies or people that own the content take you to court, you are facing like a $5000 for each image

sean416 12-04-2004 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
Look, do you want to get back on topic?


There's a site called consumption junction- I know they're 100% legit. And there's a couple more sites just like it. They have content ranging from people being decapatated to extreme fetish/ gore and nude cameron dias videos.

A lot of it is free, but they sell access to parts of the site. So, this is where it get's confusing, and based on your replies- it seems like it's confusing to you guys too. :thumbsup

Do they sell the content they buy, whilst using free shit (stolen to you guys) to push it?

Do some fucking research. PLEASE.

Consumption Junction isn't some site in the corner of the internet. The owners/operators post here regularily. They use FREE SPONSOR CONTENT to promote porn sites. Ever notice how on every page that has free porn they have a zillion links going to the porn site that it came from? Did you think that was an accident? They are promoting that web site as an affiliate.

They do NOT steal content. Don't mix up a stand up team of webmasters like the CJ crew with your shitty "download from kazaa and charge people" tactics.

I really don't get angry too often, but one day you will realize (hopefully) what an ass you're being here.

Jace 12-04-2004 07:09 PM

http://www.cozyfrog.com/help.html

everyone click that link, you will be more educated and happier in life

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by sean416
I've tried helping you, but let me put it to you straight.


"People sell pictures of 'priceless' pics"

1) They are not nude photos of models. They do not require 2257 information. They arent legal, but they arent in the adult business so it's comparing apples and oranges.


A lot of them are nude, and whilst they are not porn they are still not work safe- so I consider it Adult.

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Originally posted by sean416

2) Beleive or not, someone owns those pictures/movies you download on kazaa. So put yourself in the other persons shoes (it could very well be people who are a member of this board) You start up a site, work your ass off, promote your biz, etc. Then someone steals your work and charges people for it.. is that okay? Of course not. It's copywritten material, the internet is not the wild west.
Look, I just asked a question. I'm not here to fuck you or anyone else, but if that's what you want to see... Hell, I don't even have a site up yet- that's why I asked. To understand those part of the business that are rather hazy.

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Originally posted by sean416


3) Adult sites have to be individually approved by VISA, the days of stealing content and charging memberships are LONG gone. You have to maintain a chargeback ration < %1 or else you lose your ability to process transactions online.
Thanks. :)
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Originally posted by sean416

I could go on, but I really feel like this is begining to be a waste of time explaining things to you. GOOGLE is your friend, use it before you make an ass of yourself.
Too late. :thumbsup

ProjectNaked 12-04-2004 07:09 PM

Threads like this make me cringe......I just wish I could reach through the monitor and slap the shit out of people, or at least slap some sence into them.


It's not worth an explination- it's too irritating to explain

:mad:

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
consumption junction uses the loophole in the law that states that they just republish things that have already been circulated

plus they have an in house lawyer that could probably put most porn lawyers to shame...an in house lawyer helps a little bit

and also, some of sites you are referring to are hosted in places that are not protected byt the same laws you abide by


Thank you. :winkwink:

See, that would have been my ideal first reply. Maybe I should have clarified my inquiry a little better.

Sorry to threaten anyone. :(

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by ProjectNaked
Threads like this make me cringe......I just wish I could reach through the monitor and slap the shit out of people, or at least slap some sence into them.

:mad:

I will look back on this thread- remember the products/services you endorse.

sean416 12-04-2004 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
thanks sean for typing out all that...i just don't have the energy for newbs I used to...LOL
hehe, I typed up a whole lot trying to explain some very basic stuff to him over here But when I saw the thread about extreme holly, I figured ah shit, he's a new to this.. he'll wanna flame people for the sake of feeling like hes part of the game, this is GFY and all. Then I saw this thread, its like jesus fuck this guy really has no fucking clue about the absolute basics. If what he was saying about being around the industry and having lots of friends in it, etc he should have some more common sense about all this.

Apprentice,
I think you took that quote in your sig a bit too seriously. Imagination, creativity and all that is priceless, but KNOWLEDGE is still important! You say you've already done some research then act like it.:winkwink:

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by sean416


Apprentice,
I think you took that quote in your sig a bit too seriously. Imagination, creativity and all that is priceless, but KNOWLEDGE is still important! You say you've already done some research then act like it.:winkwink:

Depends.
Who makes more money, rockstar or a pornstar?

More importantly, who cares?

sean416 12-04-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
Depends.
Who makes more money, rockstar or a pornstar?

More importantly, who cares?

who made more money, rolling stones or the doors?

The Apprentice 12-04-2004 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by sean416
who made more money, rolling stones or the doors?
Rolling Stone...


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