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Kenny B! 08-05-2004 08:35 AM

I wanna be like Allie too!
 
Why can?t people come up with an original design or at least be a little less obvious when they completely rip off someone else?s wok? When we started out 5 years ago had a few copycat sites and it really irked me. I took it as somewhat of a compliment but mainly as a slap in the face. Check for yourself do these look the same to you?

http://www.jelli.com/allie_kayla.jpg

In case this wasn?t a really poor attempt to blatantly rip off Naughty Allie?s site and Kayla hired the same 5th grader to come up with such a complex design, I?ll apologize in advance for jumping to conclusions!

beergood 08-05-2004 08:38 AM

Looks like cut n paste to me. But who really cares with such a basic design for an entry page.

Adam-EB 08-05-2004 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beergood
Looks like cut n paste to me. But who really cares with such a basic design for an entry page.
Not just the entry page...
http://www.kaylacam.com/tour1.htm

http://www.naughtyallie.com/guestarea/videos.htm


Browse the two sites...

LadyMischief 08-05-2004 08:46 AM

Err..wow.

WiredGuy 08-05-2004 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenny B!
Why can?t people come up with an original design or at least be a little less obvious when they completely rip off someone else?s wok? When we started out 5 years ago had a few copycat sites and it really irked me. I took it as somewhat of a compliment but mainly as a slap in the face. Check for yourself do these look the same to you?

http://www.jelli.com/allie_kayla.jpg

In case this wasn?t a really poor attempt to blatantly rip off Naughty Allie?s site and Kayla hired the same 5th grader to come up with such a complex design, I?ll apologize in advance for jumping to conclusions!


To be honest, both these designs are very simple (just a table with 2 colums), so even if it was copied and pasted, I wouldn't really mind.

WG

Kenny B! 08-05-2004 08:51 AM

Like Adam said it's not just that page it's in the tour as well.

Digipimp 08-05-2004 08:52 AM

If I could remember offhand I saw a site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did.

LadyMischief 08-05-2004 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
To be honest, both these designs are very simple (just a table with 2 colums), so even if it was copied and pasted, I wouldn't really mind.

WG

So when are you coming by to visit in YOUR M3? :)

Sammy4u 08-05-2004 08:53 AM

They are very similar through out the tours, I would say too much to just be a coincidence. :(

Platinum Doug 08-05-2004 08:56 AM

Both are hot . . . sorry, what was your question??? ;)



Sup Kenny!

Kenny B! 08-05-2004 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sammy4u
They are very similar through out the tours, I would say too much to just be a coincidence. :(
Sammy you should copy it too, seems to do well for them:-)

Vitasoy 08-05-2004 08:59 AM

They got the same theme going.

Mutt 08-05-2004 09:00 AM

what a ridiculous thread - we're talking basic design layouts here that are literally on 10,000 sites, more than 10,000 - ....... there are only so many ways to use HTML tables to do a layout using no images as borders or backgrounds.

in an industry where 80% of people steal content and tons steal wholesale designs including graphics you pick this as your cause celebre?

Sammy4u 08-05-2004 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenny B!
Sammy you should copy it too, seems to do well for them:-)
ha ha I think I will pass on that. My own tour is working very well for me. :)

Kenny B! 08-05-2004 09:03 AM

10,000+ sites that look like that, post some url's for me, I just found Kayla's! And if you look at the tours they are similar too, it's not just the index page.

Digipimp 08-05-2004 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
what a ridiculous thread - we're talking basic design layouts here that are literally on 10,000 sites, more than 10,000 - ....... there are only so many ways to use HTML tables to do a layout using no images as borders or backgrounds.

in an industry where 80% of people steal content and tons steal wholesale designs including graphics you pick this as your cause celebre?

i remember seeing jake freak out and call someone out as a theif and go on and on and on about it for someone using a table like his before. he fucking blew up and nearly lost his mind, it was some funny shit.

:1orglaugh

Digipimp 08-05-2004 09:11 AM

ah i remember he was upset about someone having similar looking gallery, the person probably even used the same or similar template as his.

emmanuelle 08-05-2004 09:12 AM

Yep- here it is
http://chat.amateurmasters.com/chat....&threadid=3607

WiredGuy 08-05-2004 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
So when are you coming by to visit in YOUR M3? :)
LOL, you're gonna keep doing this in every thread I post in aren't you :)

WG

Digipimp 08-05-2004 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
Yep- here it is
http://chat.amateurmasters.com/chat....&threadid=3607

yep that was some funny shit, i was laughing that he wouldn't post it here on GFY even though I saw it on more than one other board.

cayne 08-05-2004 09:18 AM

yeah, looks very similiar...

Marcus Aurelius 08-05-2004 09:21 AM

ever hear the phrase "there is nothing new under the sun"

It applies to the web too. if it can be done it has been done, if a layout or design can be done you can bet it is out there. get over yourself thinking you are the only person who could create something like that and focus on making the site unique with what you put inside the framework.

I guess next your gonna tell us you invented solo girl sites too right?

Kenny B! 08-05-2004 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mdcq
ever hear the phrase "there is nothing new under the sun"

It applies to the web too. if it can be done it has been done, if a layout or design can be done you can bet it is out there. get over yourself thinking you are the only person who could create something like that and focus on making the site unique with what you put inside the framework.

I guess next your gonna tell us you invented solo girl sites too right?

I've heard that phrase, and it's usually said by people who rip off others and have no origanal thoughts. Just so you know I didn't create it, it's not my site, and as for my own sites I pay designers to design something somewhat original, not take someone elses design and call it their own because they change the background color!

And I didn't invent the solo girl sites, I just make a great living from pimpimg them out :winkwink:

emmanuelle 08-05-2004 09:37 AM

sig placement :1orglaugh

Jake 08-05-2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
If I could remember offhand I saw a site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did.
I?ve been sitting back ignoring your baseless claims and smart assed remarks for the last several months. Why don?t we just let everyone know the motive behind you comments:

Digipimp sends Allie an e-mail last year stating that he was interested in promoting her site. He requests a UN/PW to the site for purpose of ?review?. Allie gives him a 30-day pass and at the end of the month guess who?s back asking for another pass. This goes on for 5 consecutive months.

He then sends Allie a request for ?special? content for a ?high traffic site? because he can?t seem to find what he needs from the 50+ downloadable zips in our affiliate area. At this point she asks for his affiliate ID and the URL for this ?high traffic site?. This is his reply:

?This is my affiliate ID I believe XXXXXX as far as a link to the site I'm not really allowed to say what the site is until after it's launched probably. I got the links from the guy who owns it and I don't know that he wants me telling people about the deal. I can just say that's it's huge, it's being redesigned for relaunch in early February and should be advertised on TV, magazines an the internet obviously. I hope you can understand, I hate not being able to tell but I really shouldn't say. If that's not alright with you I totally understand.? (For clarification, this is Feb 2004 that he?s talking about and his e-mail was sent in Jan 28, 2004)

So, against her better judgment she spends half the day getting him what he has requested. Bottom line, a month later she looks up the affiliate ID he gave her and he has sent exactly 3 clicks to the program and 0 sales. At that point it?s quite obvious he?s just spent the last 6 months jerking off to the site and who the hell knows what he did with the ?special content? that Allie spent half the day getting ready for him?

Anyway, at that point Allie stops renewing his UN/PW to the site and I pull his macpimps banner from the resource page at NaughtyBank. Ever since then, this clown never misses an opportunity to throw in some BS comment every chance he gets.

Digipimp - please do us all a favor and post the URL to this ?site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did? If you're going to come on a public forum and imply that we took the design from another site at least have the common courtesy to post some evidence of your claim or else STFU and let the grown-ups get back to work!

I?d be interested to know how many other single girl sites this guy has been stringing along just to get a ?free jerk-off pass? for six months? Very sad!

Loryn 08-05-2004 10:52 AM

Allie's a hottie with a killer body!!! :Graucho

Digipimp 08-05-2004 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
I?ve been sitting back ignoring your baseless claims and smart assed remarks for the last several months. Why don?t we just let everyone know the motive behind you comments:

Digipimp sends Allie an e-mail last year stating that he was interested in promoting her site. He requests a UN/PW to the site for purpose of ?review?. Allie gives him a 30-day pass and at the end of the month guess who?s back asking for another pass. This goes on for 5 consecutive months.

He then sends Allie a request for ?special? content for a ?high traffic site? because he can?t seem to find what he needs from the 50+ downloadable zips in our affiliate area. At this point she asks for his affiliate ID and the URL for this ?high traffic site?. This is his reply:

?This is my affiliate ID I believe XXXXXX as far as a link to the site I'm not really allowed to say what the site is until after it's launched probably. I got the links from the guy who owns it and I don't know that he wants me telling people about the deal. I can just say that's it's huge, it's being redesigned for relaunch in early February and should be advertised on TV, magazines an the internet obviously. I hope you can understand, I hate not being able to tell but I really shouldn't say. If that's not alright with you I totally understand.? (For clarification, this is Feb 2004 that he?s talking about and his e-mail was sent in Jan 28, 2004)

So, against her better judgment she spends half the day getting him what he has requested. Bottom line, a month later she looks up the affiliate ID he gave her and he has sent exactly 3 clicks to the program and 0 sales. At that point it?s quite obvious he?s just spent the last 6 months jerking off to the site and who the hell knows what he did with the ?special content? that Allie spent half the day getting ready for him?

Anyway, at that point Allie stops renewing his UN/PW to the site and I pull his macpimps banner from the resource page at NaughtyBank. Ever since then, this clown never misses an opportunity to throw in some BS comment every chance he gets.

Digipimp - please do us all a favor and post the URL to this ?site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did? If you're going to come on a public forum and imply that we took the design from another site at least have the common courtesy to post some evidence of your claim or else STFU and let the grown-ups get back to work!

I?d be interested to know how many other single girl sites this guy has been stringing along just to get a ?free jerk-off pass? for six months? Very sad!

you're so full of fucking shit it's running out of your mouth. the gallery is still up on the URL and was still going to get used but I'm waiting for the site to be ready which is out of my control. feel free to icq me for the exact url and then you'll know what was up. there was a site i can't remember the name of it or i would post it, i just happened to see it advertised on consumptionjunction, some housewife site or something. and if you still want to know about the site i'll point you to the guy who owns it so you can ask him if what i said is true or not. then i would like to see you try and call him out on it. take a look and see what i downloaded from your site as well and how many times i logged in, didn't happen, i think i logged in once or twice and attempted to view a video.

okny 08-05-2004 11:12 AM

You get what you pay for, simple as that.

Jake 08-05-2004 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
you're so full of fucking shit it's running out of your mouth. the gallery is still up on the URL and was still going to get used but I'm waiting for the site to be ready which is out of my control. feel free to icq me for the exact url and then you'll know what was up. there was a site i can't remember the name of it or i would post it, i just happened to see it advertised on consumptionjunction, some housewife site or something. and if you still want to know about the site i'll point you to the guy who owns it so you can ask him if what i said is true or not. then i would like to see you try and call him out on it. take a look and see what i downloaded from your site as well and how many times i logged in, didn't happen, i think i logged in once or twice and attempted to view a video.
Hmmmm, so this big spectacular ?secret? site relaunch was postponed from Februrary 2004 until..?let?s see I think it?s August now. Go ahead and find this mystery gallery, load it up to your server and post the URL here so you can say, "see I told you this is the link". I'm assuming that will be your next post within the next 20 minutes or so, right?

Funny how you seem to remember that this other mystery site looked soooo much like Allie?s but you?re unable to come up with a link to it. I?ve wasted enough time on you today, I have a business to run and productive endeavors that need tending to. I think it?s time for you to run along and go play on your macpimp board now anyway.

Digipimp 08-05-2004 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
Hmmmm, so this big spectacular ?secret? site relaunch was postponed from Februrary 2004 until..?let?s see I think it?s August now. Go ahead and find this mystery gallery, load it up to your server and post the URL here so you can say, "see I told you this is the link". I'm assuming that will be your next post within the next 20 minutes or so, right?

Funny how you seem to remember that this other mystery site looked soooo much like Allie?s but you?re unable to come up with a link to it. I?ve wasted enough time on you today, I have a business to run and productive endeavors that need tending to. I think it?s time for you to run along and go play on your macpimp board now anyway.

I've already emailed you and you have yet to contact me on ICQ so that I can give you the link. So if you want to continue making your accusations then have at it, I've got the proof right here and you're free to see it anytime you want to message me and it's not even on my server, it's on the domain of the site it was going to be hosted on when the site is launched.

TheJimmy 08-05-2004 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
I?ve been sitting back ignoring your baseless claims and smart assed remarks for the last several months. Why don?t we just let everyone know the motive behind you comments:

Digipimp sends Allie an e-mail last year stating that he was interested in promoting her site. He requests a UN/PW to the site for purpose of ?review?. Allie gives him a 30-day pass and at the end of the month guess who?s back asking for another pass. This goes on for 5 consecutive months.

He then sends Allie a request for ?special? content for a ?high traffic site? because he can?t seem to find what he needs from the 50+ downloadable zips in our affiliate area. At this point she asks for his affiliate ID and the URL for this ?high traffic site?. This is his reply:

?This is my affiliate ID I believe XXXXXX as far as a link to the site I'm not really allowed to say what the site is until after it's launched probably. I got the links from the guy who owns it and I don't know that he wants me telling people about the deal. I can just say that's it's huge, it's being redesigned for relaunch in early February and should be advertised on TV, magazines an the internet obviously. I hope you can understand, I hate not being able to tell but I really shouldn't say. If that's not alright with you I totally understand.? (For clarification, this is Feb 2004 that he?s talking about and his e-mail was sent in Jan 28, 2004)

So, against her better judgment she spends half the day getting him what he has requested. Bottom line, a month later she looks up the affiliate ID he gave her and he has sent exactly 3 clicks to the program and 0 sales. At that point it?s quite obvious he?s just spent the last 6 months jerking off to the site and who the hell knows what he did with the ?special content? that Allie spent half the day getting ready for him?

Anyway, at that point Allie stops renewing his UN/PW to the site and I pull his macpimps banner from the resource page at NaughtyBank. Ever since then, this clown never misses an opportunity to throw in some BS comment every chance he gets.

Digipimp - please do us all a favor and post the URL to this ?site that looked just like Allie's site but came out before her site did? If you're going to come on a public forum and imply that we took the design from another site at least have the common courtesy to post some evidence of your claim or else STFU and let the grown-ups get back to work!

I?d be interested to know how many other single girl sites this guy has been stringing along just to get a ?free jerk-off pass? for six months? Very sad!






WOW is all I gotta say, there are some really strange and sad people in the world...

sixxxth_sense 08-05-2004 11:48 AM

Don't both of these sites bellong to the same sponsor? Maybe the hired a designer to design allie's site and then when they got the other bitch they just copy paste the orignal design, the designer got paid for the firstone but was told to lick balls after complainging about the 2ndone! :BangBang:

eroswebmaster 08-05-2004 11:49 AM

Various ownage here...very strange thread...kinda like an intense tennis game.

TheJimmy 08-05-2004 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
Allie's a hottie with a killer body!!! :Graucho


uhm, yapppp, pretty much...


loved those GFY carpenter shots...


smokin' in or out of the clothing...

Jake 08-05-2004 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenny B!
Why can?t people come up with an original design or at least be a little less obvious when they completely rip off someone else?s wok? When we started out 5 years ago had a few copycat sites and it really irked me.....
When Allie started her website our biggest concern with theft was that some zit faced 18y/o kid in Estonia would steal her content and/or the entire site and call it their own.

Call it naiveté if you like, but it has come as a huge surprise that the biggest threat of theft has come from other amateur girl sites. We?ve seen this time and time again! What seems even more surprising to me is that in most cases, such as this one, we?ve actually met the girl face-to-face at a webmaster event.

For anyone who say?s, ?what?s the big deal? or ?it?s just basic html? you?re sadly missing the point. If a designer were to spend the day combining, optimizing, manipulating, and slicing a series of images into a single graphic it would be considered theft if someone came along and took the graphic for use on their own site. Say they changed the border color of the graphic, it?s still theft plain and simple!

It?s no different when Allie spends the entire day adjusting cell spacing, cell padding, border sizes, cell alignment, font size, etc. in order to get the layout just as she wants it. Please don?t bother citing copyright laws or the DMCA because it would be fruitless to engage in a legal discussion on this topic here.

Whether or not it would be considered theft from a legal perspective is completely irrelevant anyway. The point here is that in both scenarios someone stole a full days work from someone else because they were too fucking lazy to do it themselves!

Kayla, you may want to at least change the tr bordercolor="6666cc" tag to something that fits your purple color scheme a little better. Allie used 6666cc because she thought that dark blue looked good against the light blue background of her table. In your case, I don?t think that the dark blue color looks so good against your purple background. That?s just my opinion though!

Digipimp 08-05-2004 02:57 PM

Unfortunately Jake that's the way the biz world works and probably always will. You're a smart guy so you already know that and yeah being in that position sometimes sucks. Someone always has to be the originator and then someone always takes what you have and uses it to make something better or sometimes hell they just keep it the same I guess. That's how it always works, yeah it sucks to be the person who doesn't get credit for being the original sometime or what sucks even more is to be the person with the original idea and never make any money on it only to have someone copy it and get rich with a little tweak or nothing at all.

And I still haven't received an ICQ or email from you if you want to see the work you said I was lying about.

TurboAngel 08-05-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
i remember seeing jake freak out and call someone out as a theif and go on and on and on about it for someone using a table like his before. he fucking blew up and nearly lost his mind, it was some funny shit.

:1orglaugh

I think you're right!


:thumbsup

MickeyG 08-05-2004 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
Kayla, you may want to at least change the tr bordercolor="6666cc" tag to something that fits your purple color scheme a little better. Allie used 6666cc because she thought that dark blue looked good against the light blue background of her table. In your case, I don?t think that the dark blue color looks so good against your purple background. That?s just my opinion though!

busted! :1orglaugh

Doctor Dre 08-05-2004 03:10 PM

It's a really basic design ...

You should try firefox ... tabbed browsing is better

Sammy4u 08-05-2004 03:11 PM

I just checked Kaylas site again and it is now changed. :winkwink:


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