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Libertine 01-12-2004 06:04 AM

Betterbeup sucks?
 
http://betterbeup.com/

Look at the front page... candidhosting is now at 210.205% downtime?! :eek7

OzMan84 01-12-2004 06:13 AM

doesnt show any stats 4 me as im not gona sign up to something worthless

Libertine 01-12-2004 06:20 AM

I'm not signed up either. It'll show you the stats, you just have to wait for a very, very long time before the stats thingy has loaded. (see that blank space on the front page? eventually that gets filled with a stats table)

Rorschach 01-12-2004 06:26 AM

I was wondering about that... I thought it was just broken and got sick of waiting.

Vitasoy 01-12-2004 06:35 AM

is it me or is that site slow?

OzMan84 01-12-2004 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vitasoy
is it me or is that site slow?
sites slow

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
I'm not signed up either. It'll show you the stats, you just have to wait for a very, very long time before the stats thingy has loaded. (see that blank space on the front page? eventually that gets filled with a stats table)
oh ok well i left before that loaded ill check again now

Odin88 01-12-2004 06:49 AM

Well, lucky me. I have the second worst host on there. And I will tell you now, betterbeup is dead accurate, and I am pissed fucking off!!!

Libertine 01-12-2004 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Odin88
Well, lucky me. I have the second worst host on there. And I will tell you now, betterbeup is dead accurate, and I am pissed fucking off!!!
Dead accurate? Candidhosting really is down 217% of the time? :eek7

Trax 01-12-2004 06:55 AM

works fine for me here
one of my host had a little down time for of ~2 min
got icq msg.. check one of the sites and it was correct
i dont see a problem expect for candid

Odin88 01-12-2004 06:57 AM

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Dead accurate? Candidhosting really is down 217% of the time?
Second worst host. Obviously there is some problem with candid hosting and the script, so I guess you could say I am on the worst host.

:feels-hot

OzMan84 01-12-2004 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Odin88
Well, lucky me. I have the second worst host on there. And I will tell you now, betterbeup is dead accurate, and I am pissed fucking off!!!

yeh mate, im using the 2nd worst aswell and its fucked since im trying to build up good traffic, but with all this downtime people are gona lose interest in me and ill get traffic of like 30 a week

JamesK 01-12-2004 07:01 AM

Quote:

This is BETA version of BetterBeUP
That means: any term or any information on this page or in system may not be 100% accurate. Your goal as a beta tester is to report any failures.
Use this link to report problems on chickenboard
doh.

grumpy 01-12-2004 07:04 AM

Normally Choker is all over the board when it concerns him. This time its quiet...very quiet. Be ware for the storm.

Libertine 01-12-2004 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildcard


doh.

There's a slight difference between not being 100% accurate and being more than 100% off from what is possible.
100% downtime could be attributed to a simple, single bug, but 217% means there is something more fundamentally wrong. A bug that really should've been crushed in the alpha versions.

SoundMan 01-12-2004 07:06 AM

better be asleep

Choker 01-12-2004 10:32 AM

Chill the fuck out people. This is beta. We are making changes and fixes as we go. The stats reporting that shows the hosts downtime we are having problems with, but if you judge this program by that then you are not very bright. First priority is to make sure the system catches every sort of outage. So far I think we have that covered. We will fix the sponsor downtime cache problem this week.

basschick 01-14-2004 04:55 PM

go to http://www.betterbeup.com/ch_04/public/DowntimeIndex

looks good. i'll be interested to see what things look like when monitoring has been in place longer for these hosts.

Moose 01-14-2004 05:02 PM

Its Crap.

Says we have been down for 36 hours.
If that happend you all would know about it.

Choker 01-14-2004 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
go to http://www.betterbeup.com/ch_04/public/DowntimeIndex

looks good. i'll be interested to see what things look like when monitoring has been in place longer for these hosts.

thanks, most bugs are fixed, almost ready for official launch

Choker 01-14-2004 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moose
Its Crap.

Says we have been down for 36 hours.
If that happend you all would know about it.

Could have been someone installed the plugin and fucked it up. In this case after 24 hours it would stop counting the downtime against you.

Moose 01-14-2004 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Could have been someone installed the plugin and fucked it up. In this case after 24 hours it would stop counting the downtime against you.

24 hours is a big difference than 36 hours

Its still crap.

Choker 01-14-2004 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moose


24 hours is a big difference than 36 hours

Its still crap.

Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you don't like it. It's beta and it is free, so fuck off. I have heard MANY complaints that your network sucks ass. So maybe you are the one who is crap? :321GFY

Ray@TastyDollars 01-14-2004 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you don't like it. It's beta and it is free, so fuck off. I have heard MANY complaints that your network sucks ass. So maybe you are the one who is crap? :321GFY

you need to smoke a joint and relax, your gonna pop a vein

plyndrty 01-14-2004 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you don't like it. It's beta and it is free, so fuck off. I have heard MANY complaints that your network sucks ass. So maybe you are the one who is crap? :321GFY


Damn Choker, Let's get a beer:drinkup Ever think of yoga?

Superterrorizer 01-14-2004 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you don't like it. It's beta and it is free, so fuck off. I have heard MANY complaints that your network sucks ass. So maybe you are the one who is crap? :321GFY


I like your attitude. No wonder everyone thinks you're a fucking idiot. Maybe you and Amp should go have a drink together.

Choker 01-14-2004 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray

you need to smoke a joint and relax, your gonna pop a vein

nah it's cool, I just don't appreciate someone calling a BETA program crap. If this host showed 0 downtime he would be all about how great it is. Fact is that downtime is accurate, and is from several of his servers, not just one. I expected a lot of hosts will flame me for this program, but the least they could have done is waited until beta is over. I have yet to see a single complaint from one person who is using this to monitor thier domains. In fact I have seen a couple guys that showed thier host thier downtime and they got credited cash for it. This program gave them the proof to show their host that thier site was indeed down.

Choker 01-14-2004 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superterrorizer



I like your attitude. No wonder everyone thinks you're a fucking idiot. Maybe you and Amp should go have a drink together.

Post your latest beta program here and let me call it crap a couple times and see how you react. Yeah I thought so

Superterrorizer 01-14-2004 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Post your latest beta program here and let me call it crap a couple times and see how you react. Yeah I thought so

Well, I would react in a professional manner, I wouldn't have a fucking hissy fit and spaz out which appears to be the norm for you.

Choker 01-14-2004 05:33 PM

Yes I am edgy about this program. I have even had hosts threaten to sue me over this. Fuck em all, bring it on. The address to serve me is in my Whois.

Mr.Fiction 01-14-2004 05:36 PM

What about Sin Host, Flying Croc, Blue Gravity, and the rest of them?

Choker 01-14-2004 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superterrorizer


Well, I would react in a professional manner, I wouldn't have a fucking hissy fit and spaz out which appears to be the norm for you.

Read my posts man, I do not have a problem with ANY user complaining about this program. It's the hosts whos sites show downtime that are constantly badgering me about this. I am getting nasty icqs and emails and I am tired of it. If any host wishes to sue me over this program, go for it.

This script was made for me to use for myself. Since I need a dedicated server for it, the server sits idle with just monitoring my domains. So I let others use it for free. I make nothing on this yet I get a lot of shit from hosts. And there is bad blood between me and whatshisface anyway.

Choker 01-14-2004 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
What about Sin Host, Flying Croc, Blue Gravity, and the rest of them?
If someone has their urls and support addys I will add them to the system

Moose 01-14-2004 05:41 PM

I would like to know where this extra 17 days came from that you have been monitoring us? 2 days ago it said 12 days monitoring time.

Is it from the same place the 36 hours of downtime came from?

All I am saying is this thing is not accurate and should not be let loose on the public till it is.

I am all for it and will support it...but if it is inaccurate..yes it is crap.

Choker 01-14-2004 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moose
I would like to know where this extra 17 days came from that you have been monitoring us? 2 days ago it said 12 days monitoring time.

Is it from the same place the 36 hours of downtime came from?

All I am saying is this thing is not accurate and should not be let loose on the public till it is.

I am all for it and will support it...but if it is inaccurate..yes it is crap.

If a hosts has one server being monitored, then after one hour tht would be 60 minutes uptime. If a host has 10 servers being monitored, then after one hour that would be 600 minutes uptime. We are going to change the format to show total minutes only. If you do the math this is the only way to show true % and time downtime of the servers being monitored. As far as not having it public until it is thru with beta, well how else can we know if there are problems are not?

Moose 01-14-2004 10:24 PM

Figured it out after a few hours of investigating this thing as I know for a fact we have not been down and would be gone if we were down for over 30 hours.

We disabled an account for non-payment, this particular account had more then one choker script running. All these added up quick as this customer did not pay his bill. He finally made arrangements with us a day later and we reinstated the account.

Choker you need to take this into account as what is being posted on your website in front of hundreds of webmasters right now is a false representation of hosting companys. There are other bugs I see in this thing, but this one is pretty bad. We do the right thing by cutting off a deadbeat and at the same time it looks like we are the crappiest host on the net.

I am on day 5 of no smokes and getting very cranky. :mad:


If you would like to discuss this you can email me [email protected]

Moose 01-15-2004 11:47 AM

Bump.
I would like to see what choker has to say about this.

Sly_RJ 01-15-2004 07:13 PM

Choker I had 3 clients on my ass today about your lovely public FAULTY beta script complaining about non-existent downtime. Am I pissed? Heh... you have no idea.

:feels-hot

Choker 01-15-2004 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moose
Bump.
I would like to see what choker has to say about this.

http://www.betterbeup.com/

Warning
The above table represents only the servers that have installed our plugin and that this service is actively monitoring. This service DOES NOT take into account server downtime due to DNS problems, sites shut down by the host, acts of God, etc. If the monitored site does not respond for ANY reason BBU will consider this site down and count this downtime up to 24 hours against the hosts total downtime. We do not guarantee the accuracy of this page, nor do we represent any of the hosting companies being monitored.
About the time being monitored..If a host has 1 server being monitored, after 1 hour the total time monitored would be 1 hour. If a host has 10 servers being monitored, after one hour the total time monitored would be 10 hours. ETC

Choker 01-15-2004 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Choker I had 3 clients on my ass today about your lovely public FAULTY beta script complaining about non-existent downtime. Am I pissed? Heh... you have no idea.

:feels-hot

http://www.betterbeup.com/

Until just now there was a big ole red box that said BETA. Did you miss that?

Choker 01-15-2004 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Choker I had 3 clients on my ass today about your lovely public FAULTY beta script complaining about non-existent downtime. Am I pissed? Heh... you have no idea.

:feels-hot

That's odd, I see no reports from the users of this service about "non-existant downtime"

http://chickenboard.com/viewforum.ph...5bb76d46 4e3a


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