I didn't miss anything. Did my clients and potential customers? Possibly. Either way, they were on my ass about downtime that your site is reporting. Not sure if they even use your service, but obviously browsing your site.

You're a big boy Choker, I know you're not naive enough to think that there's only a problem if someone reports it.

BETA BETA BETA, Stay strong Choker. I didn't see any guns held to heads.:ak47:

Funny thing is...
this customer we made arrangements with has not fulfilled his end of the bargain and is being shutoff again.
Now he is running 2 sites with this so downtime minutes will add up quick. We will rule betterbeup with the most minutes.

WE will be NUMBER ONE minute producer!!!!!!!!!!!!


Im so excited.

No one can beat us!

After 24 hours it will stop counting. What you are whinning about will affect every host so in the end the numbers will average out. You only have 3 server being monitored right now.

hahahahah BINGO:thumbsup

Why should they wait to flame you, when you bring out a program that can cost them money, out in beta form... That would be like me starting a new webmaster program and my stats not tracking the affiliates sign-ups.. opps it's just a beta don't wory it will be fixed soon....

If I install your program on my server and delete my index.html file like a total noob, then your stats show my host as being down..not my server but my host... which of course would not be true and accurate but it still reflects bad on my host, because it shows them as being down...

untill you fix that little issue of the user being able to fuck it up..it will never be accurate. Not trying to hack on you, but I belive you should have researched this project a bit more before bring it public

A newb can delete every page on his site and bbu will still show it as up. What nobody fails to mention is the hosts that are being monitored and are getting NEW clients everyday because of this service. there are only 114 servers monitered right now. And beta is jsut completed. When there are 100 or more EVERY host will show downtime and the numbers will average out

Too many variables. You can have deadbeat accounts making a solid host look bad, and you can have crappy virtual accounts on overloaded boxes being compared to dependable dedicated servers.

Also, you might use a host that has the server up, but configured so shitty that you cannot even run your scripts properly. Uptime stats alone is not enough.

50

50 sites Betterbeup :glugglug

Hahahah .. fucking hilarious.

If I may give you a small piece of advice for the future:
Keep something in alpha or non-public beta until you think you've sorted all problems out.
The whole purpose of a public beta is to have a finished product and see what damage actual use will cause.

What you did is bad: releasing a public beta of which the performance DOES reflect on others. And you didn't just release it fairly privately, no, you made an announcement about it on GFY.
If it was "just a beta", why did you do that? Why didn't you just contact a few hosts and webmasters for a limited public test?


Also, this might be a good time to tell you that the overall statistics will be worthless, even in the script's completed form if that doesn't involve some major changes. Since it only focuses on downtime, it fails to show the importance of speed.
A host which delivers crappy connectivity and only has a few clients can look extremely good in betterbeup. An example:

Webair has 20 sites in betterbeup. One of those sites is owned by some deadbeat newbie who fails to pay his hosting bill and gets shut down. The newbie doesn't remove the site from betterbeup. All of a sudden, webair has 5% downtime until the site is removed from betterbeup, either by you or the script.

Crappyhostwithbadconnectivityandnosupport.com has exactly 1 site in betterbeup. By some fluke of nature, the particular box the site is on stays up for quite a while.

Now, Crappyhostwithbadconnectivityandnosupport.com looks a whole lot better than webair in betterbeup. A bit odd, don't you think?


The overall stats of betterbeup are totally and completely useless until you decide to integrate speed and user reviews for each host. And - quite obviously - in order for the overall downtime stats to be worth anything, they need to be based on verified webmasters. That is, webmasters who are likely to pay their hosting bill and not get shut down for other reasons either.

Ofcourse, the downtime checker of betterbeup can be very useful for individual webmasters. The notification thingy is a great feature many webmasters can use. You should just change the way you handle the main overview.

You just put everything I was thinking into more polite terms then I ever could have put forth.

You really should make this known up front on the main page. This counter is no where near accurate and relies on a round robbin guestimate that each host will have the same ammount of non-payment account suspensions amongst other client responsible downtime as well as host responsible downtime... and this will some how "even out". C'mon man, think about what you're saying here.

And if you publically launch a buggy beta?

you are genius, especially considering the ammount of insight you would need to be capable of overlooking ;)

i am too drunk to decypher your broken engrish.