Why cant Visa charge every pay site webmaster $10k?
 

This would kill the chargebacks and bring quality to the surfer.

Only the people who know how to make money via pay sites would pay the cash. The dick fucks (most of you who are reading this) would be relegated back to tgp posting daily and finally forced out of the industry (Survival of the fittest).

Why do some of you have the balls to charge surfers $20 plus per month membership? Look at your sites they are living shit. The main task for you setting up a site is not content but how to hide the cancel button so you get them to go to rebill.

The surfer would be accessing top quality sites and would have no reason to chargeback and they would be getting sites that are updaily daily.

OK the big scam artists would still be out there but instead of visa being pissed at an industry they would be able to just target a few individuals.


Think about this:

'Hey I am a pornographer and work in adult because I sell my sig space....'


'Hey check this content of the neighbourhood bike that I shot on my digital camera that I brought from the supermarket'

'Hey I am a designer because I just discovered the bevel tool in photoshop'

'Hey I am a major traffic player because I run a tgp that does 2k of hits per day'



If you disagree with this thread it shows how insigificant your existance is in adult. If you agree then well done you can continue to run a kick arse operation...

So charging someone that makes $1 million a year from their paysite $10,000 would stop chargebacks how?

No it would wipe out the small time dim wits who create hundreds of charge backs by lying on tours and not offering quality to the surfer.

This thread could get interesting. :thumbsup

Have you been inside an ARS member section, or looked closely at the billing practices of some of the largest programs in the business? Obviously not. The problems with Visa aren't caused by webmasters who couldn't pay 10k to keep their sites open. Why do you think 3rd party billers seem to go out of business after processing for CE?

Maybe you should buy a clue - it might help you from appearing like a dimwit yourself.

Any small paysite that generates hundreds of chargebacks isn't going to be in business long - Visa will see to that.

Krome, you must be drinking today.

Nope still sober, I have not had a drink for over a month....

not only drinkingbut smoking some good shit.

Have you checked out the members areas at some of the most promoted sites lol. they are nothing short of shit.

so what you are saying is let the richest companies run it, ya ok that makes sense. so what is stopping from the companies left from making a pact to have shitty members area because they know all the signups would be sent to them?

how on earth would filtering out almost everyone help the industry in chargebacks, it would just bring more complaints.

wtf?

Then your logic is flawed.

Visa is after sites that generate a lot of chargebacks, not sites that have the occasional one. While I dont disagree in principal that there are a lot of small sites out there that completely suck ass, the sites generating the big chargeback numbers are the sites doing a lot of joins a day, that is the only way you can work that math out.

Resellers create much more of a problem for Visa than small paysite owners do, imo.

The less players the easier it is to target the fuckers, plus the more money there is for the people playing the game....wipe out the weak....

but if you are small I doubt you even have 100 chargebacks per month.. thus you are not a problem... to visa
:2 cents:

most of the bigger companies have the worst memebers area, cookie cutter shit ect. the small guys are the ones who offer more quality in my opinion. and if this rule was in place since day 1, a lot of good honest programs wouldn't exist, possibly yours.

Small sites are better than any site owners big or small that DON'T pay affiliates.

Have a beer, you'll feel better. :glugglug

and i'm sure those are the programs who pay you per join for your traffic... way to go and bite the hands that feed you ;)

it is the % not the amount...........

Some of the sites with the highest % of chargebacks are the large ones..

Why 10K ????

Why not 100K ???

Maybe that would wipe you out Krome?

Pretty stupid argument you have ... Most surfers that join " the so called big site" do not renew because they get generic product re-presented every other month...

And don't forget, the big of today were the small of yesterday.


And I do agree with KimmyKim:

I have been doing porn for so long that I dont think I can ever be forced out!

Funny this is coming from you, the same guy who couldnt pay his affiliates and was willing to GIVE THEM your sites to pay the bill?

Survival of the fittest?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=krome

is the 1% chargeback rule apply to Masctercard too?

if you are under 100 cbs.. per month.. you are fine..

if you are over 100.. then it has to be less than 1% of your total amount of transactions...

please brush up on your knowledge .. especially on big business models... :winkwink:

Why can't visa just pay every paysite webmaster $10,000.
yeah a premium to us for sending them business...sounds good to me :winkwink:

what up 24 inches of pain?

Webmasters should pay every surfer that joins their site $10,000. That way there will be no charge backs. :glugglug

Pay attention, it's both. As Greg pointed out.

We're helping sites incorporate in Europe to take advantage of our 2.5% chargeback ratio allowance. It can be a nice thing.

Especially when it goes to 2% on January 1, eh?

100 a month? Damn We have had 30 chargebacks since Jan 2003. Trust me.. you can control chargebacks without charging a fee.... Its called taking care of your members. Give them what they pay for and dont jerk them over on upsells and crossells. Play far and you wont have issue.

Charging 10,000 will not end the chargeback issue. The programs that are having chargeback issues would hardly miss the 10k so there would be no incentive for them to change there ways.

does the chargeback rule apply to master card too???

Is it lumped with your overall ratio?.. no. My 30 chargebacks for this year includes Mastercard also. Our overall ratio is under .01%

Agreed. take care of your member questions and give them what you advertise. We do thousands of transactions a month, and I can count our monthly chargebacks on my hands and toes.

The real solution is FUCK YOU VISA FOREVER and not worry about chargebacks !!!



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lol true but i dont push PPS programs much anymore, trying to focus more on revshare these days.

Hmmm that's one way to look at it. But its not the sponsors who fuck shit up, its the cheater webmasters. Maybe your idea should be to charge affiliates money for joining... this would be a failure because other sponsors won't charge...trying to undercut competition. Final result, back to square 1.

Well then the other real question is whether you were born near a nuclear power plant or not! :Graucho

Good words :thumbsup

so do you monitor the visa transactions much more carefully so the chargeback ratio stays low and just keep track of them?

this thread is more proof that ANYONE can be in porn..