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a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 11:24 AM

jeff at perfectiongirls is a liar and a cheat
 
I originally was emailed by jeff at perfectiongirls saying he loved my site - karendreams.com. He said he has nearly 2000 affiliates and would be able to bring my site to 50 sales a day, from about 10-12 sales a day.

after some talking we moved the site over and there have been problems from day one. he has failed to live up to all his original promises, and he thought i was going to leave yesterday, so without contacting me decided to put a full page ad up for brittany blu on my site - stealing all my traffic and all my affiliates traffic.

also.. jeff you owe me $2800 from a shitty months sales, you lied about wiring it to me - unless wires take 2 weeks now, and you have cheated me out of sales and given me a fuckload of stress over the past two months.

also as for emailing all your affiliates to tell them i am a cheat - heres a little somethign for all your affiliates to read:

(something like what he said to me, sadly i dont have the log..)

a1ka1ine: im not happy with how you are dealing with affiliates, and popping up sites without their codes, i want to remove the popups we were making more sales before.
jeff: fuck affiliates, you are in this to make you money not them.

before you email all your affiliates telling them im stealing.. i thought id let out whats on my mind.

Dirty F 05-21-2003 11:25 AM

Thats pretty shitty dude...You better get paid so we can party in Montreal.

LukieD 05-21-2003 11:27 AM

What a fucking schmuck! I'm pulling my galleries to all Perfection Girls sites now.

Sly_RJ 05-21-2003 11:27 AM

Ohhh shit. This will be good.

stocktrader23 05-21-2003 11:28 AM

What's the deal Jeff? Care to respond? I was just working on putting this on my site but I think I'll hold off now.

Let's hear it.

sweetcuties 05-21-2003 11:28 AM

I got the popcorn

Dirty F 05-21-2003 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Ohhh shit. This will be good.
I normally stay out of the drama threads but in this case, James is a friend of mine and i think he should get his money if that was the deal.

LukieD 05-21-2003 11:29 AM

Oh and Ive also heard he likes to delete peoples accounts when they disagree with him on message boards. Ah well it converted like shit anyway.

Sly_RJ 05-21-2003 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss


I normally stay out of the drama threads but in this case, James is a friend of mine and i think he should get his money if that was the deal.

The money sucks but it isn't what's sticking out right now.

The FPA for Britney Blu has my jaw dropped.

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LukieD
Oh and Ive also heard he likes to delete peoples accounts when they disagree with him on message boards. Ah well it converted like shit anyway.
ouch. thats not a good way to do business.

C_U_Next_Tuesday 05-21-2003 11:30 AM

i got the popcorn..now im ready for the show:BangBang:

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LukieD
Oh and Ive also heard he likes to delete peoples accounts when they disagree with him on message boards. Ah well it converted like shit anyway.
lukie your talkin about perfectiongirls.. jeff deleted one of my friends accounts too - because jeff didnt like his attitude.

nocostporn 05-21-2003 11:30 AM

:glugglug

Dveron 05-21-2003 11:33 AM

Quote:

jeff: fuck affiliates, you are in this to make you money not them.
At least he was honest :1orglaugh

rooster 05-21-2003 11:34 AM

:321GFY

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dveron


At least he was honest :1orglaugh

if affiliates don't make money, they take their traffic elsewhere.

Nysus 05-21-2003 11:34 AM

Ah well, I know PerfectionGirls used to post here quite a bit. Pretty fucked up.

Cheers,
Matt

x-vision 05-21-2003 11:35 AM

:eek7

Hardcore J 05-21-2003 11:36 AM

Popcorn anybody, get your popcorn

The Heron 05-21-2003 11:37 AM

I'd like to point out jeff at perfectiongirls is not a person to do business with.

I was a very early affiliate, and from the start his methods weren't very logical. He released paysites with minimal content and the worlds worst graphics in the tours. He refused to have the tour graphics fixed which any halfwit could have done for him. He didn't update the members area's the whole time i had access which was a month or two despite having inside the members area a schedule of updates that should have been occuring. Obviously there weren't many rebills happening because of that.

To top it off he finally deactivated my affiliate account in ccbill after I publicly pointed out (at this board actually) about a month ago that he still had many very blurry thumbs & images in his previews that would obviously be better to replace. I also requested that he remove the multitude of popups that he had, or at least offer some sort of tour with popups only to the other sites in his network. He refused and deactivated me, saying it wasn't possible for him to remove the popups!

I understand popups are normal, however when I complained he was popping 2-3 pages on entrance and 99% of the ads were to programs affilates wouldn't be credited with. That's fine on a pps program but on a partnership program that has multiple paysites it's normal to only popup other paysites the affiliate would get credit for.

In closing I'd like to say GO FUCK YOURSELF PERFECTION SHIT, and since you already deactivated my account there's not a damn thing stopping me from posting the truth everywhere I go! HA

Nasty D 05-21-2003 11:41 AM

Another dead beat call out on GFY -- Stay Tuned! Does your aggreement with Perfection Girls also make the same promises?

X37375787 05-21-2003 11:45 AM

hmm

WiredGuy 05-21-2003 11:53 AM

Well, that's one side to the story, I'll wait for Jeff to reply before making any actions.

WG

TheBigGuy 05-21-2003 11:58 AM

He pulled a similar stunt on a friend of mine.

LukieD 05-21-2003 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Well, that's one side to the story, I'll wait for Jeff to reply before making any actions.

WG


Yep I'd also like to see how it is possible to cover up actions such as these.

Its one thing to have a disagreement with a partner but its too far when you block their access and make your affiliates lose money by putting a full page ad to your other site.

corvette 05-21-2003 11:59 AM

I am not taking any sides here, but I have always liked Jeff.

Jeff had called me a few minutes ago about a matter unrelated to this thread and I mentioned it to him, he is out of town right now and does not currently have access to a computer. I mentioned what I saw and he seemed anxious to respond as soon as he finds a terminal with unrestrained internet access.

X37375787 05-21-2003 12:00 PM

weird. let's hear his side of the story.

DarkJedi 05-21-2003 12:01 PM

:ugone2far

gruffy 05-21-2003 12:02 PM

http://bbs.fuckedcompany.com/icons/drama.gif

SpaceAce 05-21-2003 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Well, that's one side to the story, I'll wait for Jeff to reply before making any actions.

WG

You're right, we should all hear both sides before coming to any conlusions. Still, I think it is significant that within 30 minutes of this post being made, half a dozen people have already popped up to support what a1ka1ine said.

SpaceAce

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce


You're right, we should all hear both sides before coming to any conlusions. Still, I think it is significant that within 30 minutes of this post being made, half a dozen people have already popped up to support what a1ka1ine said.

SpaceAce

ya that raises a ton of questions.

LukieD 05-21-2003 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana


ya that raises a ton of questions.

Maybe its because quite a lot of people have/do promote his sites? I have galleries on sites and am now sending traffic to his sponsor without getting credit. Wouldn't that piss you off?!

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LukieD


Maybe its because quite a lot of people have/do promote his sites? I have galleries on sites and am now sending traffic to his sponsor without getting credit. Wouldn't that piss you off?!

was it always like that? or did he change it recently?

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 12:17 PM

i dont expect anyone to pull anything because of just what ive said, im interested myself to hear how jeff defends himself.

ive calmed down a bit now.. i was choking with rage in my first post in this thread..
:mad:

im on the phone with ccbill.. then i have to re-upload my members areas and change all the codes, then email all my partners making sure they get credit for their traffic. its going to be a long night...

LukieD 05-21-2003 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana


was it always like that? or did he change it recently?

Quote:

without contacting me decided to put a full page ad up for brittany blu on my site - stealing all my traffic and all my affiliates traffic.
He added a full page ad yesterday on a paysite I was sending traffic to which only he gets credit for.

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LukieD


He added a full page ad yesterday on a paysite I was sending traffic to which only he gets credit for.

thats just bad

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana


thats just bad

no kidding, i think its ironic that he is going to accuse me of stealing traffic by changing back to my servers when he put up an ad which nobody gets credit for. that was a stupid mistake on his part which is not going to win him popularity with affiliates

Dax 05-21-2003 12:53 PM

Ohhhh anyone has time to hear my experiences with jeff???

LukieD 05-21-2003 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
Ohhhh anyone has time to hear my experiences with jeff???
Go for it...

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
Ohhhh anyone has time to hear my experiences with jeff???
do it man


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