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I Like To Fuck 05-21-2003 01:00 PM

:321GFY Lets Fuck Jeff !

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by I Like To Fuck
:321GFY Lets Fuck Jeff !
a note to all.. this is NOT me.. hah - comic. :-) first time ive smiled all day.

BigFrog 05-21-2003 01:03 PM

very interesting.
ive got the popcorn in the microwave as we speak.
:winkwink:

X37375787 05-21-2003 01:14 PM

'You're a liar and a cheat'
'I only lied about being a cheat.'


...or sumthing like dat...
:glugglug

Dax 05-21-2003 01:15 PM

He also fucked me over... And I tried to help him from the begining... From the moment... he first came out.. I told him I could have my people redesign his sites.. for a fraction of what anyone else would do it..so he could get started..

So for those who doubt the post against him.. I can back them up 100% cuz it happened to me..

I want to read as to what does he have to say....

Dax 05-21-2003 01:24 PM

Fuck... I never wrote what happened..

Well bascially the same shit.. that happened to.. LukieD.... He put a full page ad to Tawnee on the front page of the paysite of which obviously ONLY he was getting credit for.. And the funny thing was that.. it magically happened the day I got listed on the hun and sent him ( what ccbill said ) over 11.000 hits!

I was fucking livid.. and he offered to give me all the sign ups.. he made to Tawnee... I was so mad I started cracking up... He stopped offering that once I asked for a user/pass to the lightspeed stats.. and to pay $40 a sign up ( since i dunno who would stay for a month or 6 )

I'm not one to put personal icq messages but if they are needed to prove the fact that he fucked me over...

Oh well.. there is always someone who will try to get rich by fucking people over..

The Heron 05-21-2003 01:24 PM

So it wasn't just me that complained about the lack of design skills?! Yet he insists on being a cock about it, you'd think with all these people pointing out problems he'd adjust, but no he'll just keep doing the same dumb shit until he runs out of affiliates to screw then I'm guessing he'll go away.

Dax 05-21-2003 01:26 PM

Shit .. even after he fucked me over.. and when he came up with brittany's site.. I posted some shit.. that kind of made him look dumb.. and he privately asked me to remove it and I did..

Sometimes Im too fucking nice.. :(

Dax 05-21-2003 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by The Heron
So it wasn't just me that complained about the lack of design skills?! Yet he insists on being a cock about it, you'd think with all these people pointing out problems he'd adjust, but no he'll just keep doing the same dumb shit until he runs out of affiliates to screw then I'm guessing he'll go away.


Maaaan.. Ray Charles.. could design a better site than those at the begining....

easyjesus 05-21-2003 01:39 PM

I am somewhat of a "n00bie" here, but I also was intrgiued by Brittany Blu's site so I wanted to promote it.. I didnt give him a chance to "fuck me over", but I didnt promote it long for the fact that the pics were blurry, and it looked like a 3yr old kid designed it...

he said, they wanted the design done that way.... how sad:Graucho

LukieD 05-21-2003 01:44 PM

fiddy...

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by easyjesus
I am somewhat of a "n00bie" here, but I also was intrgiued by Brittany Blu's site so I wanted to promote it.. I didnt give him a chance to "fuck me over", but I didnt promote it long for the fact that the pics were blurry, and it looked like a 3yr old kid designed it...

he said, they wanted the design done that way.... how sad:Graucho

hey dude - your in fort worth? in the uk there was a tv programme about a big porn guy that made some big mistakes where you are and got jailed :-S

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 01:50 PM

urgh theres nothing more i can do tonite until my partner gets back...

so im gonna party with a few friends, namely jack, daniel, ben, and jerry.

sherie 05-21-2003 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by a1ka1ine
urgh theres nothing more i can do tonite until my partner gets back...

so im gonna party with a few friends, namely jack, daniel, ben, and jerry.

JD and B&J is not a great mixture:repuke

easyjesus 05-21-2003 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by a1ka1ine


hey dude - your in fort worth? in the uk there was a tv programme about a big porn guy that made some big mistakes where you are and got jailed :-S

yea, not far from me.. I believe it was kiddie porn....

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by easyjesus


yea, not far from me.. I believe it was kiddie porn....

yeh.. it was on tv. the guy pleaded innocent and claimed to do nothing wrong. he had a few ppl work for him tho.. i dont know how he managed to employ ppl :-s

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by sherie
JD and B&J is not a great mixture:repuke
you the same sherie from pib board?

yeh my stomach is telling me "hey! im full of acid and sugar and dont like this!"

urghhh

sherie 05-21-2003 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by a1ka1ine


you the same sherie from pib board?

yeh my stomach is telling me "hey! im full of acid and sugar and dont like this!"

urghhh

Why yes I am =) See same name and sig ;)

And that could be a volitile mixture I am sure of it...stick to one or the other LOL

eroswebmaster 05-21-2003 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by easyjesus


yea, not far from me.. I believe it was kiddie porn....


Fort Worth? Born and raised in Foat Wuth...in Vegas now but maintain a presence there :)

Gradgiated from Martin in Arlington, however went to Eastern Hills from my freshman year through Junior year.

easyjesus 05-21-2003 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster



Fort Worth? Born and raised in Foat Wuth...in Vegas now but maintain a presence there :)

Gradgiated from Martin in Arlington, however went to Eastern Hills from my freshman year through Junior year.

SWEET... I know where thse places are. Good friend of mind graduated from Martin, and U cant live in Fort Worth and not here about Eastern Hills...

Snapper 05-21-2003 03:04 PM

If we all wait a minute or two, I'm sure we'll start hearing that Jeff was standing on the grassy Knoll in Dallas too.

amazing how much time we all spend crying over spilled milk.

Must be annoying to get ripped off, but that's kind of part of doing business though

Lykos 05-21-2003 03:06 PM

I don't know anything about Jeff couse i am preety new here probably,but i can say very good words for a1ka1ine.
When i start to produce content i got order from him.He paid me 5000$ in advance not even asking me a single word.I was really shocked when he done that...But he is very honest player here,not many like him,he helped me much with that order,and he always not pay on time,he pay before time:)Always pay on time,and first order of 5k$ he sents me and even didn't know me at all,and i live in other part of world.I can say only that he is one great guy and great honest person and great friend:thumbsup
And he will always have my trust and support,
Seee u baddy soon on CC Generals on-line:)
All besto for a1ka1ine
:thumbsup

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Snapper
If we all wait a minute or two, I'm sure we'll start hearing that Jeff was standing on the grassy Knoll in Dallas too.

amazing how much time we all spend crying over spilled milk.

Must be annoying to get ripped off, but that's kind of part of doing business though

its good to know you can trust and who you can't. if i got ripped off i think other people would like to know as well so that it doesnt happen to them.

Snapper 05-21-2003 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana


its good to know you can trust and who you can't. if i got ripped off i think other people would like to know as well so that it doesnt happen to them.

oh, I understand dude. I also think some people settle personal issues by lying on the boards though, so until I hear the whole story, I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not about to run out and kick Jeff's ass off this thread, know what I mean?

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Snapper


oh, I understand dude. I also think some people settle personal issues by lying on the boards though, so until I hear the whole story, I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not about to run out and kick Jeff's ass off this thread, know what I mean?

well it seems like more than just one person was affected. doesn't look good for him.

LukieD 05-21-2003 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snapper
Must be annoying to get ripped off, but that's kind of part of doing business though
Its not just annoying but you have EVERY RIGHT to do something about it if you get ripped. I'd like to know if someone I was doing business with was ripping off other people.

Libertine 05-21-2003 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Gradgiated from Martin in Arlington

Living For Today 05-21-2003 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lykos
I don't know anything about Jeff couse i am preety new here probably,but i can say very good words for a1ka1ine.
When i start to produce content i got order from him.He paid me 5000$ in advance not even asking me a single word.I was really shocked when he done that...But he is very honest player here,not many like him,he helped me much with that order,and he always not pay on time,he pay before time:)Always pay on time,and first order of 5k$ he sents me and even didn't know me at all,and i live in other part of world.I can say only that he is one great guy and great honest person and great friend:thumbsup
And he will always have my trust and support,
Seee u baddy soon on CC Generals on-line:)
All besto for a1ka1ine
:thumbsup

Ever since he's been with perfectiongirls its been nothing but bullshit. I don't really know the perfectiongirls guy but he sounds like a fucking kunt.

Good luck in getting your money alkaline :thumbsup

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lykos
I don't know anything about Jeff couse i am preety new here probably,but i can say very good words for a1ka1ine.
When i start to produce content i got order from him.He paid me 5000$ in advance not even asking me a single word.I was really shocked when he done that...But he is very honest player here,not many like him,he helped me much with that order,and he always not pay on time,he pay before time:)Always pay on time,and first order of 5k$ he sents me and even didn't know me at all,and i live in other part of world.I can say only that he is one great guy and great honest person and great friend:thumbsup
And he will always have my trust and support,
Seee u baddy soon on CC Generals on-line:)
All besto for a1ka1ine
:thumbsup

ok that was a little bit over the top lykos but i appreciate the thought ;-) :-D

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Living For Today


Ever since he's been with perfectiongirls its been nothing but bullshit. I don't really know the perfectiongirls guy but he sounds like a fucking kunt.

Good luck in getting your money alkaline :thumbsup


you know? when he sent me the threatening email i thought "fucking hahahaha". i thought it was a british thing.. i guess in ozland you spell it with a k ;-)

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 03:50 PM

wtf????? i cant say hahahaha??????

:-o :eek7

s0laris2 05-21-2003 04:01 PM

Hello All.

I am A1ka1ine's Partner. I am quite shocked/surprised that this has been something that has affected so many people in the past.

I am surprised no one has said anything in the Past. I hope this will all be resolved quickly and that everyone is paid their fair share of the revenue. Especially the affiliates. Without you guys/gals it makes it impossible to grow any sites.

Thanks for the support. I am curious as to what Jeff has to say too. I think things just did not work out as planned.

Snapper 05-21-2003 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by s0laris2
Hello All.

I am A1ka1ine's Partner. I am quite shocked/surprised that this has been something that has affected so many people in the past.

I am surprised no one has said anything in the Past. I hope this will all be resolved quickly and that everyone is paid their fair share of the revenue. Especially the affiliates. Without you guys/gals it makes it impossible to grow any sites.

Thanks for the support. I am curious as to what Jeff has to say too. I think things just did not work out as planned.

nice sig and nice site dude:thumbsup

SteveLightspeed 05-21-2003 04:05 PM

I'll throw in my two cents here

I've worked with Jeff at Perfection Girls since he was brand new. I've found him to be an honest and hard working guy.

I know from my own experiences that there are two sides to every story. And I also know that new people in this busines sometimes make mistakes that don't make sense from a more experienced point of view.

Jeff has been through some heavy shit recently, the kind of things that would throw most people off their game.

Its better to work things out privately, because arguing on the boards doesn't help anyone.

Steve Lightspeed

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 04:09 PM

hell we all have lives, and we all go through tough times.

but i tried to contact him daily, as did my partner, and i waited and waited nearly 2 weeks for the promised wire transfers to not go through, when i logged in today to do an update i found out that the account was disabled and then i went to the site and saw that all the traffic was being diverted to his brittany blu site.

he left me no choice but to come here.

besides.. im the one that is going to lose a whole 6 weeks sales to him, im the one that has had my site fucked around with, im the one that is losing money here. jeff has nothing but gained from his relationship with me and mike, like a leech or a virus.

i am glad to be free of him.

i wanted a peaceful resolution too.. had the money been in my bank, and my site wasnt diverting to brittanyblu - i certainly wouldnt have come to the boards.

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Snapper


nice sig and nice site dude:thumbsup

mmm id love to be inbetween themm... a nice a1ka1ine sandwich :-)

gothweb 05-21-2003 04:14 PM

I agree with Lightspeed, every story has two sides. (Well, usually three...) Until we hear the other side, it is hard to judge.

I will say that A1kal1ne seems like a good guy to me, and I would be surprised if what he is saying is totally baseless. What happened to him sucks...

Having someone promise (or even predict) a certain level of sales, and then fail to deliver, sucks.

Having a partnership go sour, and cost everyone money, sucks.

Hijacking the traffic, before things were resolved really, really doesn't look good.

I've been through something similar. I think the moral of this story, to anyone watching, should be not to have your site depend entirely on someone else's affiliate program.

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
Hijacking the traffic, before things were resolved really, really doesn't look good.
just so everyone knows.. this is a screenshot of my beautiful paysite ruined by a treacherous traitor!!

http://www.jamescox.com/cheater.jpg

jeff says that he was going to email his affiliates to tell them im stealing their traffic- last time i looked i didnt own brittanyblu.com

ive had enough, my fitful sleep begins now.

Dax 05-21-2003 04:34 PM

I kept quiet.. but after noticing i was not the only one he fucked over.. is it worth staying quiet?

So you think that redirecting traffic that is not yours... is a 'newbie' mistake.. when this guy has been talking and dealing with people like yourself??

Like I said.. the moment he tries to say that I am lying or when I see that the logs are needed to clear everything up.. I will bring them up...



Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
I'll throw in my two cents here

I've worked with Jeff at Perfection Girls since he was brand new. I've found him to be an honest and hard working guy.

I know from my own experiences that there are two sides to every story. And I also know that new people in this busines sometimes make mistakes that don't make sense from a more experienced point of view.

Jeff has been through some heavy shit recently, the kind of things that would throw most people off their game.

Its better to work things out privately, because arguing on the boards doesn't help anyone.

Steve Lightspeed


fletcher 05-21-2003 04:41 PM

I'm not Jeff...so I can't respond for him, but I do work very closely with him. There is, obviously, another entire side to this story.

I don't know about all of the interactions between Jeff and you, but I do know that on many occasions there were huge technical difficulties on your end, contract issues with the models, etc. For example, Stacey (one of the sites in question) recently made the decision not to do any new content. And as far I know, Karen was supposed to do nude content but demanded more money to do so after the agreement was made.

Jeff is currently out of town, and I spoke with S0laris about this and made it clear to him. Last time Jeff was expected to be out of town for an extended period of time, the EXACT same issue arose. One of you logged into the Perfection Girls servers, removed all of the content from the sites, and took a copy of the htaccess file then deleted both sites with no warning. This pissed off hundreds of users, and is no way to go about working out situations like this. A simple phone call or heads up would have been all it took to make a smooth transition on our end.

A large majority of the traffic to Karen's front page was our own, hence the FPA to divert affiliates to something they would continue to receive credit for signups on. There was a clearly visible link to Karen's main page, and no other links were changed.

Like I said, I don't know about all of your interactions with Jeff, but I do know that twice now problems have arisen when you've known he'd be out of town. Both of you have his phone number and can easily reach him. Business is simple...it involves communication. I'm sure he would have been able to work something out with you.

Here is a snippet of what we discussed last night:

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Fletch (08:34 PM) :
I'd wait until Friday and talk to him

S0laris® (08:35 PM) :
we are gonna wait

S0laris® (08:36 PM) :
so end of friday the dns switches. and CCbill is gonna fix it all..

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And last time this happened when he was out of town...

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S0laris® (10:00 PM) :
we will resolve this in the morning between all of us. Sometimes it takes a big blow up to come to an uderstanding it seems..

S0laris® (10:51 PM) :
we had a good talk.

S0laris® (10:51 PM) :
tell him to take care..

S0laris® (10:51 PM) :
and this will NEVER happen again

S0laris® (10:51 PM) :
I will be more involved myself.

S0laris® (11:26 PM) :
sorry.. you can meet up with me another day and kick my ass

S0laris® (11:28 PM) :
Like I saidl, you can kick my ass some other day,,

S0laris® (11:29 PM) :
I need a good Boot from last nights episode..

Fletch (11:29 PM) :
Haha. I'll get some thugs right over.

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I just do the grunt work, but in my opinion there have been some very irrationial decisions made, both when it was known Jeff wouldn't be around.


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