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Bryan G 12-18-2013 09:06 AM

Angry scientist finds an uneducated internet comment and delivers an epic response...
 
Waiting for "Wehateporn" to comment on this....LOL

http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vqjb0

Matyko 12-18-2013 09:14 AM

not bad. :pimp
vaccines is a tough topic..
we accept the 'must have' ones but dont do the optional ones.
here in hungary the must-list is way bigger than the EU average btw... :(

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:15 AM


Vendzilla 12-18-2013 09:18 AM

I read it and while I made sure my daughter got all her shots, I have to say that no one knows for sure what causes autism. So far scientist only have theories.

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:20 AM

That was a hired shill who replied, I've seen enough of them over the years to recognize the standard lines they use, when you debate such shills it always turns out that they know little on the topic, they just pretend to :2 cents:

Watch for a few minutes from 17 Minutes 55 Seconds



If you have any questions on this important topic (e.g. on specific vaccines/diseases) I'm happy to help out :thumbsup

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19913893)
I read it and while I made sure my daughter got all her shots, I have to say that no one knows for sure what causes autism. So far scientist only have theories.

Dr Peter Fletcher, former UK Chief Scientific Officer at the Department of Health said

"it is the steady accumulation of evidence, from a number of respected universities, teaching hospitals and laboratories around the world, that matters here. There's far too much to ignore. Yet government health authorities are, it seems, more than happy to do so."

...

"the refusal by governments to evaluate the risks properly will make this one of the greatest scandals in medical history"

...

"There are very powerful people in positions of great authority in Britain and elsewhere who have staked their reputations and careers on the safety of MMR and they are willing to do almost anything to protect themselves."

....

"Clinical and scientific data is steadily accumulating that the live measles virus in MMR can cause brain, gut and immune system damage in a subset of vulnerable children,"



wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19913893)
So far scientist only have theories.

That's the line they give when the truth will cause problems for their industry. There's plenty of evidence that it's vaccines which cause healthy children to regress into Autism, even the CDC meetings (released under Freedom of Information) show that they know it's vaccines, but they don't want us to know. :2 cents:

Bryan G 12-18-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19913911)
That's the line they give when the truth will cause problems for their industry. There's plenty of evidence that it's vaccines which cause healthy children to regress into Autism, even the CDC meetings (released under Freedom of Information) show that they know it's vaccines, but they don't want us to know. :2 cents:

Do you have children?

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:28 AM

Hepatitis B Vaccine Triples the Risk of Autism in Infant Boys

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-..._b_289288.html

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Acetaminophen (paracetamol) use, measles-mumps-rubella vaccination, and autistic disorder

http://aut.sagepub.com/content/12/3/293.abstract

http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/14/4/364.pdf

"Compared to controls, children ages 1-5 years with autism were eight times more likely to have gotten sick after the MMR vaccine, and were six times more likely to have taken acetaminophen."

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"Children who receive the entire 3-shot series of Hepatitis B Vaccine have a 9x higher rate of developmental disabilities than unvaccinated children."

Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children aged 1-9 years Toxicological and Environmental Chemistry, September 2008


http://www.fourteenstudies.org/pdf/hep_b.pdf

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A Case Control Study of Mercury Burden in Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder. Journal of American Physicians and Surgeon, 2003. James Adams, PhD [Arizona State University].

http://www.generationrescue.org/pdf/bradstreet.pdf

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19913915)
Do you have children?

Why would that be relevant as to whether vaccines are good, bad or somewhere in between, it doesn't come into the logic. :2 cents:

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:32 AM

Big Pharma make money from you getting a lifelong disease which leaves you hooked on their drugs, this is what vaccines are for, they are an attempt to disrupt your immune system and leave you with lifelong autoimmune diseases and allergies (Diabetes Type 1, Asthma etc) which make you into a very good customer.

Kolargol 12-18-2013 09:33 AM

18 children die every hour because of measles. Measles vaccination resulted in a 71% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2011 worldwide.

Bryan G 12-18-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19913926)
Why would that be relevant as to whether vaccines are good, bad or somewhere in between, it doesn't come into the logic. :2 cents:

I am asking because if you did, would you not want them vaccinated? Obviously your answer will be no.

Anyhow, I just had a daughter and she is getting vaccinated.

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:35 AM

Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...l.pone.0008382

Conclusions/Significance

"Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ?system? by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality."


Study explained below:-
PLOS Study: Vaccinations Inevitably Cause Autoimmune Diseases
http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/201...es-plos-study/

geedub 12-18-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19913938)
I am asking because if you did, would you not want them vaccinated? Obviously your answer will be no.

Anyhow, I just had a daughter and she is getting vaccinated.

Is it wrong that the scarf always made me assume you were homosexual? No hate/troll, that's the fucking truth Bryan G.

Bryan G 12-18-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geedub (Post 19913947)
Is it wrong that the scarf always made me assume you were homosexual? No hate/troll, that's the fucking truth Bryan G.

No just stupid, congrats :thumbsup

Vendzilla 12-18-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19913938)
I am asking because if you did, would you not want them vaccinated? Obviously your answer will be no.

Anyhow, I just had a daughter and she is getting vaccinated.

Congrats Bryan, it's a great feeling ain't it?

My daughter changed my world. Yes, she will get the vaccinations, here in the US they have to before they allowed in school and the schools have to keep track of them. When she went in the military, just like me, she got even more of them, some days my arms hurt a lot from all those shots!

kristin 12-18-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19913938)
I am asking because if you did, would you not want them vaccinated? Obviously your answer will be no.

Anyhow, I just had a daughter and she is getting vaccinated.

We have two boys, ages 8 & 9. They have had their general shots that get them into Kindergarten but that's it and I don't fully agree with all of those either.

Hepatitis C, really? Also, giving a 12 year old girl an HPV shot is reeeeeeediculous. The long term effects are unknown and what's currently being shown as results is not positive for the drug makers. Pharmacies and insurance companies make the money on vaccines, they aren't there to protect your children.

Flu shots? Not needed ... let your kid get the flu, it will build their immune system.

96ukssob 12-18-2013 09:44 AM

That is great. Just shows how uneducated idiots, like some here (not to point anyone out...) base their logic from something written that has no facts behind it.

For instance, if you are pregnant and drink a glass of mercury each day, then you have a higher likelihood of your child having a developmental disorder. But oh, vaccines have mercury, so they cause developmental disorder too!

Regardless of the half-wit notions, it still comes down to there is not a single, 100% safe treatment for anything. Have you looked at the side effects of OTC drugs? What's more important to you, having your child die a slow death because you want to prove to your conspiracy theory friends that you are tough, or giving them vaccinations that will prevent against these serious diseases with an extremely low risk of side effects.

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19913938)
I am asking because if you did, would you not want them vaccinated? Obviously your answer will be no.

Anyhow, I just had a daughter and she is getting vaccinated.

The vaccines are not safe, it makes me very sad to know of any child having their life and health risked to one of Big Pharma's untested vaccines. These are unethical companies, you wouldn't trust a babysitter who had a criminal record, so why would anyone trust these companies with the health of their children, especially when Big Pharma have such a huge conflict of interest i.e. if they give your child a lifelong disease they profit :2 cents:

While I may not be able to talk you out of vaccinating your child, I will give you tips as to how to reduce the risk of your daughter being harmed by vaccines:-

1. Never allow more than 1 vaccine per month
2. Do not vaccinate before age 2 to avoid the risk of Crib Death
3. Never use Tylenol (aka Paracetamol) around the time of vaccination
4. Never vaccinate your child when they are sick.
5. Avoid newborn Hep B vaccine (particularly high risk, only relevant for drugs users and prostitutes)
6. Avoid DPT (one of the most dangerous vaccines)
7. Avoid MMR (too high risk, go for a single Measles if you must)
8. Skip on silly vaccines like Hib which are known to have more risk than potential benefit (this vaccine is behind the rise in Diabetes Type 1)
9. Never vaccinate a child who is not well nourished.

If you take all that onboard, there is still a risk, but it will be dramatically reduced. :2 cents: :thumbsup

The website below has some good advice for those who want to stick to a safer vaccine schedule
http://www.smartvax.com/

geedub 12-18-2013 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19913949)
No just stupid, congrats :thumbsup

:thumbsup congrats on your daughter.

Bryan G 12-18-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19913960)
We have two boys, ages 8 & 9. They have had their general shots that get them into Kindergarten but that's it and I don't fully agree with all of those either.

Hepatitis C, really? Also, giving a 12 year old girl an HPV shot is reeeeeeediculous. The long term effects are unknown and what's currently being shown as results is not positive for the drug makers. Pharmacies and insurance companies make the money on vaccines, they aren't there to protect your children.

Flu shots? Not needed ... let your kid get the flu, it will build their immune system.

I agree with you, I am not talking about every single shot one can be given. I am referring to the basic shots they get around 3 months old.

Bryan G 12-18-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19913957)
Congrats Bryan, it's a great feeling ain't it?

My daughter changed my world. Yes, she will get the vaccinations, here in the US they have to before they allowed in school and the schools have to keep track of them. When she went in the military, just like me, she got even more of them, some days my arms hurt a lot from all those shots!

Thanks Buddy :-)

Vendzilla 12-18-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19913960)
We have two boys, ages 8 & 9. They have had their general shots that get them into Kindergarten but that's it and I don't fully agree with all of those either.

Hepatitis C, really? Also, giving a 12 year old girl an HPV shot is reeeeeeediculous. The long term effects are unknown and what's currently being shown as results is not positive for the drug makers. Pharmacies and insurance companies make the money on vaccines, they aren't there to protect your children.

Flu shots? Not needed ... let your kid get the flu, it will build their immune system.

I agree with not getting flu shots. I got the shot once and got the flu a few weeks later. Normally I don't get the flu!

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 19913962)
For instance, if you are pregnant and drink a glass of mercury each day, then you have a higher likelihood of your child having a developmental disorder. But oh, vaccines have mercury, so they cause developmental disorder too!

Consuming a substance orally should not be compared with having the substance injected. :2 cents:

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19913960)
We have two boys, ages 8 & 9. They have had their general shots that get them into Kindergarten but that's it and I don't fully agree with all of those either.

Hepatitis C, really? Also, giving a 12 year old girl an HPV shot is reeeeeeediculous. The long term effects are unknown and what's currently being shown as results is not positive for the drug makers. Pharmacies and insurance companies make the money on vaccines, they aren't there to protect your children.

Flu shots? Not needed ... let your kid get the flu, it will build their immune system.

Good points Kristin, the HPV is a particularly dangerous shot, it sells over $1 Billion per year but is not backed up by good science :thumbsup

seeandsee 12-18-2013 09:54 AM

Vacine cures people fro shit they are design for, but on other side poison them with lots of shit

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 19913934)
18 children die every hour because of measles. Measles vaccination resulted in a 71% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2011 worldwide.

Measles is perfectly safe in healthy well-nourished individuals, more specifically it's about having enough Vitamin A to fight it. Our immune system can do it's job just fine, but Big Pharma want to sell us an immune system so they have propaganda/marketing to sell their products, they use fearmongering and misinformation to make the sale. :2 cents:

Sly 12-18-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19914001)
Measles is perfectly safe in healthy well-nourished individuals, more specifically it's about having enough Vitamin A to fight it.

In other words? in a perfect world, people don't die.

Agreed!

wehateporn 12-18-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19913998)
Vacine cures people fro shit they are design for, but on other side poison them with lots of shit

In theory if the vaccines were made safety by good honest scientists there could be some value, unfortunately they're currently being used a way of disrupting and permanently injuring our immune system to increase the size of the Big Pharma market.

These are the last people you should trust with your health, they have a vested interest in harming you :2 cents:


kristin 12-18-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19913968)
I agree with you, I am not talking about every single shot one can be given. I am referring to the basic shots they get around 3 months old.

Did the hospital give your newborn a hep c shot? I remember that one of my friend's declined it but the hospital pressured it so much, even threatened to call Child Protective Services.

I'm not sure how the Canadian healthcare system handles shots, but in the US you are very pressured to get them all. Scare tactic for sure.

Rochard 12-18-2013 10:00 AM

Good fucking shit.

wehateporn 12-18-2013 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19914007)
In other words… in a perfect world, people don't die.

Agreed!

Single Measles vaccines have been shown to have a postive risk/benefit ratio in the malnourished Third World, so that's one vaccine which I do agree with (for the Third World). However DPT jabs in the Third World are known to decrease life expectancy, this goes to show that every vaccine needs to be studied carefully on an individual basis, unfortunately they are not. :2 cents:

wehateporn 12-18-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19914012)
Did the hospital give your newborn a hep c shot? I remember that one of my friend's declined it but the hospital pressured it so much, even threatened to call Child Protective Services.

I'm not sure how the Canadian healthcare system handles shots, but in the US you are very pressured to get them all. Scare tactic for sure.

Sometimes they even jab them up when you're out of the room :2 cents:

Vendzilla 12-18-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19914012)
Did the hospital give your newborn a hep c shot? I remember that one of my friend's declined it but the hospital pressured it so much, even threatened to call Child Protective Services.

I'm not sure how the Canadian healthcare system handles shots, but in the US you are very pressured to get them all. Scare tactic for sure.

I don't remember my daughter getting any shot, but then that was 25 years ago.
I know they gave some options, but there was a list that every child had to get before being allowed in school.
I'm sure things have changed

wehateporn 12-18-2013 10:12 AM

I've provided information for any curious minds who are looking for both sides of the story, allowing informed consent. I can't invest much more time in this, but I'll leave you with this excellent video from Dr Tenpenny, she's spent many years studying vaccine research papers, in this video she goes through each one of the childhood vaccines and assesses the risk against the benefit. While it is a long video it's well worth watching so as if you do decide to vaccinate your child you can know it was an informed decision. :2 cents:


Bryan G 12-18-2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19914012)
Did the hospital give your newborn a hep c shot? I remember that one of my friend's declined it but the hospital pressured it so much, even threatened to call Child Protective Services.

I'm not sure how the Canadian healthcare system handles shots, but in the US you are very pressured to get them all. Scare tactic for sure.

No she did not get a hep c shot, she only got her basic shots at 3 months old. There was no pressure at all. That said I did not decline the shot, so I dunno.

wehateporn 12-18-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19914029)
I don't remember my daughter getting any shot, but then that was 25 years ago.
I know they gave some options, but there was a list that every child had to get before being allowed in school.
I'm sure things have changed

1991 was the year when USA introduced Hep B jabs for children :2 cents:

wehateporn 12-18-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19914044)
No she did not get a hep c shot, she only got her basic shots at 3 months old. There was no pressure at all. That said I did not decline the shot, so I dunno.

In Canada the schedules vary from province to province :2 cents:

Jel 12-18-2013 10:25 AM

this thread is full of lofl


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