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Shap 06-03-2011 10:44 AM

Interesting stats and a good reminder
 
I was just reading fast company magazine and these stats stood out

Difference in people using email from 2009 to 2010
Seniors up 28%
teens down 59%

89% of all email sent is spam

Facebook users in 2004 1mil
In 2010 600 million

Aol users in 2004 23 million
In 2010 4 million

Whatever is hot today can quickly be replaced especially if the functionalty of it is replaced with something less annoying or more user friendly. I would guess most teens are communicating over social networks because there is far less hassle. No spam, no junk, no remembering an email addy. Yesterday when the sale was announced more than twice as many contacted me by fb msg over email.

There is always opportunity and now more than ever you can get a project to 1 million users faster than ever and you can drop back to zero faster than ever. You have to stay sharp.

It will be interesting to see if tubes evolve or if they stay stagnant the way paysites did.

Agent 488 06-03-2011 10:48 AM

no one has ever done "social" right in adult. if someone could get that right, traffic would shift.

what was the biggest adult site in 2002? 2005? 2007? every couple years online brings a revolution.

Shap 06-03-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18191909)
no one has ever done "social" right in adult. if someone could get that right, traffic would shift.

what was the biggest adult site in 2002? 2005? 2007? every couple years online brings a revolution.

Yep. My guess is we having be getting close to the next one. The last two big ones IMO were tubes and Myfreecams. Both really disrupted the industry and filled a huge void.

There is huge opportunity in social on the gay side IMO. The problem with straight has always been the lack of real women joining.

dropped9 06-03-2011 11:02 AM

Why would a porn surfer want to post on a social network? You think hey want to connect with other dudes that are also jerking off to some tranny with a cock in her ass? Hello no! They want porn now to jerk it now. That's why tubes flourished and myfreecams did as well.

That's why social will not be a fad in adult.

cooldude7 06-03-2011 12:32 PM

damn at facebook stats

Sly 06-03-2011 12:33 PM

Did teens ever really use e-mail? I don't remember ever e-mailing friends when I was a teen. And yes, we all had e-mail, LOL.

Agent 488 06-03-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18191941)
Yep. My guess is we having be getting close to the next one. The last two big ones IMO were tubes and Myfreecams. Both really disrupted the industry and filled a huge void.

There is huge opportunity in social on the gay side IMO. The problem with straight has always been the lack of real women joining.

there are a few huge gay social sites that do it right already. on the straight side not so much.

JFK 06-03-2011 12:36 PM

Is this what retirement is all about ?:upsidedow
"I was just reading fast company magazine and these stats stood out"

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-03-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropped9 (Post 18191947)
Why would a porn surfer want to post on a social network? You think hey want to connect with other dudes that are also jerking off to some tranny with a cock in her ass? Hello no!

You might want to think that a little more.
Gay men are an odd lot. They get there dicks sucked by complete strangers at airports. People they do not even know for more than 5 minutes.

Truck stops are quick pick up's for gay men looking for other gay men.

So when you ask that question despite what you think it is quite the reality. I can easily understand why a gay oriented social network would explode.

Sly 06-03-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18192286)
You might want to think that a little more.
Gay men are an odd lot. They get there dicks sucked by complete strangers at airports they do not even know.

Truck stops are quick pick up's for gay men for other gay men.

So when you ask that question despite what you think it is quite the reality.

That probably isn't every gay man, just you.

Jakez 06-03-2011 12:56 PM

http://www.socialparody.com/ - the traffic from networks created on here is absolutely golden.

dropped9 06-03-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18192293)
That probably isn't every gay man, just you.

Do you always drop your sig when you piss on someone?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-03-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18192293)
That probably isn't every gay man, just you.


Surprised TopBucks even keeps retards like you around.

Understanding a sexual behavior does not make one gay. Guess you fail at understanding niches and segments of human sexual behavior.

I did not say every gay but the above is common knowledge and fairly common practice. Nothing is absolute in the world, especially the web there are always variations of things. But there are variations for things that are more common than others.

If you do not know shit like this by now, get up from your desk, walk into the other office and leave a letter if resignation.

SZNY 06-03-2011 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18191941)
Yep. My guess is we having be getting close to the next one. The last two big ones IMO were tubes and Myfreecams. Both really disrupted the industry and filled a huge void.

There is huge opportunity in social on the gay side IMO. The problem with straight has always been the lack of real women joining.

I fully share your opinion about social features in adult sites but it depends how its being integrated and used.

Our members really appreciate the friendship connection, wall page, inbound mailbox, instant messenger and comment features in our platform.

I don't know yet how it will work with gay but we hope to start soon with a gay version of our platform "Boysocial.com". My expectations are that it will be used more intensive.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-03-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropped9 (Post 18192304)
Do you always drop your sig when you piss on someone?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NO shit LOL:)
Shame is a bitch.

Lilit 06-03-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18192293)
That probably isn't every gay man, just you.

So much confidence in this statement... I wonder where it comes from? :)

Sly 06-03-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18192307)
Surprised TopBucks even keeps retards like you around.

Understanding a sexual behavior does not make one gay. Guess you fail at understanding niches and segments of human sexual behavior.

I did not say every gay but the above is common knowledge and fairly common practice. Nothing is absolute in the world, especially the web there are always variations of things. But there are variations for things that are more common than others.

If you do not know shit like this by now, get up from your desk, walk into the other office and leave a letter if resignation.

LOL. Dude. You're sitting here blasting a huge stereotype insinuating that all gay men are in airport bathrooms getting BJs and picking up dudes in the park.

Do some people do that? Sure. Do they all? Absolutely not.

Headless, here is my signature. Top Bucks, Top Bucks, Top Bucks.

Wizzo 06-03-2011 01:35 PM

Shouldn't your sig have linkcode in it, since its no longer your program? :winkwink:

Sly 06-03-2011 01:37 PM

Lets get back to Shap's stats. No need to hijack a decent thread with stereotypes and name-calling. My apologies Alien!

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-03-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18192408)
LOL. Dude. You're sitting here blasting a huge stereotype insinuating that all gay men are in airport bathrooms getting BJs and picking up dudes in the park.

Do some people do that? Sure. Do they all? Absolutely not.

Headless, here is my signature. Top Bucks, Top Bucks, Top Bucks.

Where did I say all?:1orglaugh

Caligari 06-03-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18192214)
there are a few huge gay social sites that do it right already. on the straight side not so much.

Any in particular and do you know if they have an affiliate program? Been looking for something like this but zilch so far with aff program.

kristin 06-03-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18192307)
, get up from your desk, walk into the other office

It's a miracle!

OutToLunch 06-03-2011 02:07 PM

shap is this what you are talking about www.gay.com/ or www.manhunt.net

Brujah 06-03-2011 02:15 PM

FetLife is pretty social.
http://fetlife.com/

uno 06-03-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18191893)
I was just reading fast company magazine and these stats stood out

Difference in people using email from 2009 to 2010
Seniors up 28%
teens down 59%

89% of all email sent is spam

Facebook users in 2004 1mil
In 2010 600 million

Aol users in 2004 23 million
In 2010 4 million

Whatever is hot today can quickly be replaced especially if the functionalty of it is replaced with something less annoying or more user friendly. I would guess most teens are communicating over social networks because there is far less hassle. No spam, no junk, no remembering an email addy. Yesterday when the sale was announced more than twice as many contacted me by fb msg over email.

There is always opportunity and now more than ever you can get a project to 1 million users faster than ever and you can drop back to zero faster than ever. You have to stay sharp.

It will be interesting to see if tubes evolve or if they stay stagnant the way paysites did.

Were there any numbers about regular text messaging patterns?

Nathan 06-03-2011 02:19 PM

Only one type of social network will work in straight adult in my opinion: swingers.

Anything else, the secrecy around porn consumption and sex in general makes it impossible to build a social graph around it. The men on the site also have very little in common other than the porn they consume. They will likely fear that the others are somehow strange or weird people, since they might think they are somewhat themselves.

It's not like you can build a social graph purely on a porn site, there are too many gaps in it at that point.

Again, with swingers, this will work in their group, no doubt.

Also, one remark. I am hearing more and more people complaining about spam on facebook, about how facebook filters updates to the people they think are interesting to you, how most updates you get are related to some kind of a product and not your friends.

Of course all this can be configured, but almost nobody will do so.

Social networks in my opinion have become the mailing list of the 21st century. Spam will take over soon.

I am however likely a bad example since I do not have a facebook account and will never have one. I have business social accounts, like linkedin, but thats the max I will go.

Robbie 06-03-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18191893)
. I would guess most teens are communicating over social networks because there is far less hassle.

You'd guess wrong on that. As the father of 2 teens...it's texting non-stop. They only bother with computers to play games, and all the while the cellphone in their hand texting (also texting while eating dinner, watching a DVD, etc.)

uno 06-03-2011 02:23 PM

Think of what KRL could have done with Men.com.

dropped9 06-03-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18192408)
Headless, here is my signature. Top Bucks, Top Bucks, Top Bucks.

LOL don't act like you didn't click that little check box to post that post without your sig... LOL I just thought it was funny you couldn't have your sig with a post... hahaha

Caligari 06-03-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18192509)
Only one type of social network will work in straight adult in my opinion: swingers.

yep great thing about swingers too is that they don't have any content to rip off and put on tubes.

ottopottomouse 06-03-2011 02:45 PM

Text messaging has eaten most other forms of communication here.

Jakez 06-03-2011 03:02 PM

http://www.fetlife.com/

d-null 06-03-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude7 (Post 18192208)
damn at facebook stats

seeing how the internet shifted so quickly and so far to Facebook makes me think about retiring just like Shap, I am losing interest in the stupidity of the masses really and find it hard to be enthusiastic anymore

Shap 06-03-2011 05:46 PM

I think the next big evolution may be somebody making a major mobile site. I'm not talking about just another mobile site but one that really explodes. To my knowledge it hasn't happened yet.

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-03-2011 06:31 PM

The next big thing in the UK is Majela Zeze Diamond

Robbie 06-03-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18192914)
I think the next big evolution may be somebody making a major mobile site. I'm not talking about just another mobile site but one that really explodes. To my knowledge it hasn't happened yet.

I think there is a good reason for that too. In the last 5 years, I've had to start wearing reading glasses while I work. And forget trying to see anything on a cell phone screen without them (and I have a big Droid X screen). As guys get a little older and have credit cards and disposable income it becomes harder to see on these damn things.

My thought is that mobile is really great for a sort of viral marketing. In other words, your buddy shows you a naked pic at a bar. But you aren't gonna buy a membership to that site on your cell phone when you're partying at a bar!

Nope, you're gonna go home and google that girl up on a real computer screen where you can see clearly and then buy a membership there.

I have enough trouble typing in a user/pass for my bank app...I can only imagine trying to do a join page on my cell phone. Talk about the potential for hidden x-sells! lol!

Socks 06-03-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18193174)
My thought is that mobile is really great for a sort of viral marketing. In other words, your buddy shows you a naked pic at a bar. But you aren't gonna buy a membership to that site on your cell phone when you're partying at a bar!

I think when the payment system is worked in well with your phone so you can just charge stuff by entering a password, people will be much more likely to do that, armed with the knowledge they can login using any computing device they prefer later on.

NaughtyRob 06-03-2011 09:10 PM

Social networks are the new porn, the new dating, the new everything.

DatingGameExpert 06-03-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18193239)
Social networks are the new porn, the new dating, the new everything.

Wow, such a deep statement. I am in awe.


















:1orglaugh

will76 06-03-2011 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18191893)
I was just reading fast company magazine and these stats stood out

Difference in people using email from 2009 to 2010
Seniors up 28%
teens down 59%

89% of all email sent is spam

Facebook users in 2004 1mil
In 2010 600 million

Aol users in 2004 23 million
In 2010 4 million

Whatever is hot today can quickly be replaced especially if the functionalty of it is replaced with something less annoying or more user friendly. I would guess most teens are communicating over social networks because there is far less hassle. No spam, no junk, no remembering an email addy. Yesterday when the sale was announced more than twice as many contacted me by fb msg over email.

There is always opportunity and now more than ever you can get a project to 1 million users faster than ever and you can drop back to zero faster than ever. You have to stay sharp.

It will be interesting to see if tubes evolve or if they stay stagnant the way paysites did.

Im guessing most teens are replacing email with text messaging now that most plans have unlimited texting so no extra costs and the attention span of kids is short, faster to text your friend with a short message then send them an email. And every single kid 13 or older has a phone now.

What is next is the million dollar question, however I see tube sites reigning for several years. Even 15 years ago a video was cool shit but the technology (and cost) to stream it wasn't practical, but we knew it was there and just a matter of time. Now you get full length HD videos for free. What is the next step up from that? 3D, a hologram of some type? Seems what ever is "next" is still many years away. Sees like what is next is so far away we don't even know what "it" is yet.


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