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Alprazolam 03-18-2011 03:05 PM

Enough with .XXX. It only works if.....
 
you dummies fall for the bullshit and buy the domains.

if you don't buy the domains, the asshole can't fund the marketing campaigns and efforts to make it mandatory with any agency or goverment that the leech is going to try to influence.

your fear is this asshole's fuel.

don't buy the domains, and it will die in a year or two.

if you give him any money at all, you are supporting him staying alive.

if someone buys your domain, you use the icm rules against them as a trademark holder. tm holders do not have to pay to have the domain inactivated.

do not buy domains in .xxx.

without money coming in, this thing is a dead duck.

:2 cents:

loreen 03-18-2011 03:06 PM

I'm with you.
I'm not gonna buy any.

baddog 03-18-2011 03:07 PM

You are correct. It will be interesting to see who runs out and buys them. You know that is going to happen.

selena 03-18-2011 03:08 PM

What was that I just heard?

The voice of reason, I do believe.

Kysersoze 03-18-2011 03:11 PM

You are 100% correct. The problem I think is gonna be with newer breed of domain sellers who are gonna rush and buy these domains to resell. So initially i think there will be a lot of buying which will suck.

I sell adult domains and do not plan on purchasing any but the if it does take off then that market is gonna open up and force reluctant domainers like myself to jump in.

signupdamnit 03-18-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17989281)
You are correct. It will be interesting to see who runs out and buys them. You know that is going to happen.

In one of the other threads someone quoted over 200,000 .xxx domains on reserve. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. I don't want the shit either but we're talking about the adult industry and there is no loyalty or coming together here and there hasn't been anything resembling it in many years. I bet most of the big guys already picked up thousands of domain names. I notice many are suspiciously silent. Let's face it the honor or community action in this industry as a whole is no better than that between a gang of thieves (and most at the top are now nothing more than thieves, quite ironic!). There are decent people but for the most part it's dog eat dog.

{Psycho} 03-18-2011 03:15 PM

U are true :)

alias 03-18-2011 03:18 PM

Don't buy .xxx, observe the song and dance but don't support it.

will76 03-18-2011 03:19 PM

you people are so delusional its not even funny. Have you ever heard of domain brokers? you know all those assholes who buy tens of thousands of domains, and mark them up about 1000x just waiting for 1 idiot to come a long a year to buy so they can cover the renewal fees for all of their domains.

First of all the new adult industry "leaders" are companies like AFF who used spayware to fuck everyone, Mansef who advertises on the pirate bay to try to make a buck, and big tube sites who profit off of your stolen content. Do you think any of those types of people wouldn't hesitate to go buy 1000s of dot xxx domains if they thought they could flip them for profit?

BEYOND our industry, there is a whole another industry just for domain buyers/sellers. Those people, as I mentioned above, are going to jump all over this too. Hell, these people are already waiting in line. They going to buy the .xxx of your .com's then sell it back to most of you at a MUCH higher price.


Come on people, you think by now you would have learned the "nobody buy .xxx and lets show them!" idea has .000000000000001% chance of happening, why even waste your time posting about it.

Kysersoze 03-18-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17989312)
you people are so delusional its not even funny. Have you ever heard of domain brokers? you know all those assholes who buy tens of thousands of domains, and mark them up about 1000x just waiting for 1 idiot to come a long a year to buy so they can cover the renewal fees for all of their domains.

First of all the new adult industry "leaders" are companies like AFF who used spayware to fuck everyone, Mansef who advertises on the pirate bay to try to make a buck, and big tube sites who profit off of your stolen content. Do you think any of those types of people wouldn't hesitate to go buy 1000s of dot xxx domains if they thought they could flip them for profit?

BEYOND our industry, there is a whole another industry just for domain buyers/sellers. Those people, as I mentioned above, are going to jump all over this too. Hell, these people are already waiting in line. They going to buy the .xxx of your .com's then sell it back to most of you at a MUCH higher price.


Come on people, you think by now you would have learned the "nobody buy .xxx and lets show them!" idea has .000000000000001% chance of happening, why even waste your time posting about it.

I agree with Wil, it's a tough and nearly impossible proposition. There are just too many people out there that could care less and only see the profit. Like i said earlier in this thread, it will force the hand of even the reluctant adult domainer who wants to support the cause.

alias 03-18-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17989312)
you people are so delusional its not even funny. Have you ever heard of domain brokers? you know all those assholes who buy tens of thousands of domains, and mark them up about 1000x just waiting for 1 idiot to come a long a year to buy so they can cover the renewal fees for all of their domains.

First of all the new adult industry "leaders" are companies like AFF who used spayware to fuck everyone, Mansef who advertises on the pirate bay to try to make a buck, and big tube sites who profit off of your stolen content. Do you think any of those types of people wouldn't hesitate to go buy 1000s of dot xxx domains if they thought they could flip them for profit?

BEYOND our industry, there is a whole another industry just for domain buyers/sellers. Those people, as I mentioned above, are going to jump all over this too. Hell, these people are already waiting in line. They going to buy the .xxx of your .com's then sell it back to most of you at a MUCH higher price.


Come on people, you think by now you would have learned the "nobody buy .xxx and lets show them!" idea has .000000000000001% chance of happening, why even waste your time posting about it.

How many you got reserved?

mafia_man 03-18-2011 03:35 PM

Everyone is going to buy the domains.

JosephFM 03-18-2011 03:42 PM

Let's see what sponsors come on first with dot xxx versions of their paysites.

Alprazolam 03-18-2011 03:45 PM

ok, buy them then.

enjoy your new home on the internet and the rules that come with your dictator stuart.

domain brokers can only afford to run their business when they sell what they buy. they can't sit on them each year and just keep racking up 65 dollars a year per domain.

believe me or not, i don't care.


buy domains = get used to calling stuart daddy.

don't buy domains = piss on his grave in a few years when his stld dies.

see if i care. no dog in the fight.

Alprazolam 03-18-2011 03:46 PM

fyi. will isn't as smart as he plays he is on gfy.

food for thought.

D Ghost 03-18-2011 03:48 PM

what he said...

Astro$ 03-18-2011 03:49 PM

You're right.

BlackCrayon 03-18-2011 03:49 PM

there will be fools who think they will get ahead of everyone by buying them but look how many people lost money on all of the other failed extentions...im out like 10k on .mobi myself...i won't be making the same mistake again.

signupdamnit 03-18-2011 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephFM (Post 17989380)
Let's see what sponsors come on first with dot xxx versions of their paysites.

It'll probably be a lot like the DMCA tubes. They all opened their own around 2007 and coincidentally started basically telling webmasters to fuck off (closing accounts, changing terms, magic tripling ratios). Only 2-3 years later did you see the real reason why (if you were paying attention). A few still try to keep their shady tubes a secret. Expect the same. They won't own up until they are forced to show their hand such as when someone begins making it mandatory. Then you'll see they had a shitload reserved even before today.

alias 03-18-2011 03:59 PM

A few hypothetical domain examples:

If you have pigmonkeyslut.com and get ok traffic and a few sales you do not even need to consider .xxx

Say you have pigslut.com and you get decent sales but nothing crazy, .xxx is probably just another hassle and extra cost to maintain.

If you have pig.com or slut.com then what if any extra percentage of traffic or revenue does having the .xxx versus blocking it with your trademark for no charge provide?

d-null 03-18-2011 04:11 PM

as the public finds out about it there will be huge type-in traffic at first for many keywords

porn.xxx will be busy I think

nikki99 03-18-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 17989358)
Everyone is going to buy the domains.

exactly :2 cents::2 cents:

alias 03-18-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 17989417)
as the public finds out about it there will be huge type-in traffic at first for many keywords

porn.xxx will be busy I think

No word yet from pimproll but you would think they would have it covered.

Alprazolam 03-18-2011 04:20 PM

alias, do you know anything at all about ICM, IFORR, ICANN, or anything else involving .XXX and the process of how a sTLD like this is going to roll out? the most basic things seem to escaping your understanding of any of this. just a question.

Cyber Fucker 03-18-2011 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17989276)
you dummies fall for the bullshit and buy the domains.

if you don't buy the domains, the asshole can't fund the marketing campaigns and efforts to make it mandatory with any agency or goverment that the leech is going to try to influence.

your fear is this asshole's fuel.

don't buy the domains, and it will die in a year or two.

if you give him any money at all, you are supporting him staying alive.

if someone buys your domain, you use the icm rules against them as a trademark holder. tm holders do not have to pay to have the domain inactivated.

do not buy domains in .xxx.

without money coming in, this thing is a dead duck.

:2 cents:

Yes, good thinking but... pretty pointless since it's like saying to people who see an occasion don't go for it. It's like some damned money laying on a street and you say stay away from that money those are bad money. People will go for top keywords no matter what... and if they will go for the top ones the other people will repeat the scheme with second class ones or the ones that they already have .com equivalents.
Just don't think I'm saying it all because I'm just going to register some, I am not going to register/preregister any.

BFT3K 03-18-2011 04:25 PM

Exactly, and if all the assholes on this board with tube sites shut down the free shit, that would help out the industry as well, but.....

alias 03-18-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17989429)
alias, do you know anything at all about ICM, IFORR, ICANN, or anything else involving .XXX and the process of how a sTLD like this is going to roll out? the most basic things seem to escaping your understanding of any of this. just a question.

Negative. In fact a lot of the information that I have seen is hosted by the ICM registry, for example: http://www.icmregistry.com/Sunrise/ICM.html

alias 03-18-2011 05:18 PM

http://www.xbiz.com/news/131908

u-Bob 03-18-2011 05:57 PM

You are right

just look at the .co... Most domainers rushed in hoping for .com typo traffic only to find there's no traffic and no one willing to buy those domains.

u-Bob 03-18-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17989312)
BEYOND our industry, there is a whole another industry just for domain buyers/sellers. Those people, as I mentioned above, are going to jump all over this too. Hell, these people are already waiting in line. They going to buy the .xxx of your .com's then sell it back to most of you at a MUCH higher price.

only if you are willing to buy them from them.

slapass 03-18-2011 06:06 PM

I noticed that thehun doesn't have any porn on his domain so people like that would never need to flop over. The gold rush to xxx might be very short lived.

signupdamnit 03-18-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17989559)

Quote:

.XXX will be regulated by IFFOR, an independent non-profit entity made up of a seven-person Policy Council, including a child protection representative, a privacy and security expert, free-speech advocates and adult entertainment industry leaders. It will be funded primarily by $10 (USD) annually from every .XXX domain registered.
Ah great. I wonder who the sellouts will be? I bet it'll be from among the usual suspects destroying the industry.

Barry-xlovecam 03-18-2011 06:35 PM

IFFOR's new "realm?"

http://3mp1r3.cam500.com/img/boards/...macht_frei.jpg

Governments may find it convenient ...

You get free showers there ...


http://www.thedomains.com/2010/02/20...the-475k-cost/

LAJ 03-18-2011 07:49 PM

Sadly plenty of .xxx domains will be bought and sold.

what we need to do now if find out who in the industry helped push this thru and string em up by their balls...

peedy 03-18-2011 08:31 PM

Bump for da truth...

will76 03-18-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17989339)
How many you got reserved?

http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/...gzH5tBdvjW.jpg


.............

will76 03-18-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17989616)
only if you are willing to buy them from them.

What does it matter if we buy from them or not??? if 100K's of domains are already registered it means:

1. Fuck face Stuart made money, and I so bad wanted to see that fat fuck lose on it this con.
2. It makes the govt think it is accepted by the industry since they can point to so many registrations and make it easier for them to try to "potentially" force us to use them.
3. Some of you will buy from them eventually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17989613)
You are right

just look at the .co... Most domainers rushed in hoping for .com typo traffic only to find there's no traffic and no one willing to buy those domains.

think for a second.... i don't know why you miss shit like this when it seems like common sense to me.

If you own a .com and .co comes out will you lose traffic to people all of a sudden going to the ".co" of your domain. Fuck no. Now if you own a .com of a porn site and .xxx comes out do you think some people will go to the .xxx, especially since the media is going to hype the shit out of this between now and the day it goes live??? YES. How can you people even compare .co, mobi and all that other shit to .xxx if you own a porn site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17989396)
there will be fools who think they will get ahead of everyone by buying them but look how many people lost money on all of the other failed extentions...im out like 10k on .mobi myself...i won't be making the same mistake again.

another one who thinks if you own a porn site .xxx will be just as usefull as .co or .me etc. :upsidedow

Allison 03-18-2011 10:56 PM

Those are pre registrations which may not actually happen. There was a lot of confusion all along and when the actual time comes for the registrations to go through they very well might not happen. That's just my assumption though. Like event planning and having 20% no shows especially considering the possible identification criteria? And in addition, I agree that non industry folk think this is a great opp for then to make money in porn, not realizing that it takes more than just owning a domain.

will76 03-18-2011 11:08 PM

You guys are so in denial if you don't think 100K's of registration are going to happen.

If given the chance to purchase a "good" keyword domain for .xxx 90% of you would. The ONLY thing stopping most of you from buying is the fact that all of the decent domains will already be taken.


I guess this is the "crutch" you people want to lean on now. Since it's passed and looks like we have to deal with it, no one wants to give up hope so the new plan is "no one buy, it will just go away in a couple years".

Come on, I hate that fuck fuck Lawley, and am as pissed as the rest of you. But it is sad to see the delusional people in these threads thinking that they can rally everyone to not buy so it will go away.

Rofl 03-19-2011 12:39 AM

Yes, on "launch day" if you like, surfers will rush to .XXX to check out all the "greatest, latest sexy pornez on teh webz"

And THEN they'll realize it's all paid for and nothing free, and they'll go back to .com's again...

Just another day in the life of the internet.


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