Why do you put banners on illegal content sites??
 

So i hear everyone bitching and complaining about tube sites, illegal sites with stolen content.. yet there are tons of banners promoting thousands of programs, sites etc. WHy do you allow your banners to be up.

money talks bullshit walks

greed......

It's nothing a few good lawsuits couldn't fix: contributory infringement/ inducement to infringement, etc..

Money tals huh, well its my mission to start posting companies posting banners especially on stolen content sites. Will love listening to them explain themselves.

double standards in this business is unmatched!

they could care less.

because it is not illegal

good luck with that, if they are complying with the DMCA properly they are not infringing on your copyright.
IF they are not infringing, then there is no contributory infringement.

And you are probably one of the scumbags driving this industry to shit by supporting this OR you have stolen content yourself.

There should not be 1 post in defense of this.

ADAPT OR DIE

:2 cents:

yeah! that will show them!

:1orglaugh

exactly...
dating sponsors (not all) and some other sponsors just don't care what affiliates have on their sites as long as they are sending traffic/sales...

Not to many sponsors on YouTube care.

They not only allow it, but they actually go out searching for these shady sites, often even buying prepaid spots... :2 cents:

Its a start, instead of comments like this, do you have better idea.. i hear tons of bitching and complaining posts but when any sort of idea comment arises, someone like you posts something like this.

Porn is dead. Start selling something else.

I saw your banner on a stolen content site. A nice big one.

I wonder if the racketeering law (RICO) could be applied to organized content theft? RICO is a very powerful law.

"Despite its harsh provisions, a RICO-related charge is considered easy to prove in court, as it focuses on patterns of behavior as opposed to criminal acts.[2]"

Maybe civil RICO is a possibility...

"There is also a provision for private parties to sue. A "person damaged in his business or property" can sue one or more "racketeers." The plaintiff must prove the existence of a "criminal enterprise." The defendant(s) are not the enterprise; in other words, the defendant(s) and the enterprise are not one and the same. There must be one of four specified relationships between the defendant(s) and the enterprise. A civil RICO action, like many lawsuits based on federal law, can be filed in state or federal court. [1]"

Do numerous alleged instances of theft qualify as predicate acts..? Dunno, I'd love to hear a lawyer's opinion on this.

Some basic info on RICO here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rackete...anizations_Act

no i have not done either
i am the guy who keeps telling you that you will make more money by embracing the technology then fighting it.

You will make more money giving away your content(process monitezation, branding bugs, product placement), then trying to push it thru the affiliate channel (and giving away more that 1/2 the money).

no one post my scripts on the public torrent sites, because i fully provide for the fair use rights of my customers (using a private tracker).

yet rather than solve the problem using the technology, you guys bitch and whine about it.

yep and theres more to it but im not getting into the truth

Yeah. PRIVATE tracker. Good thing you capitalized, and bolded that shit for us.

Not the public one's you defend and support in your countless posts you fucking troll. Big difference.

:disgust

:2 cents:

you are a moron, as i have said
the reason my stuff is not on the public tracker is because i setup a private tracker

when you refuse to do that, the only way they can get the benefit of torrent based backup is to put it on a public tracker.

My statement is completely consistent you jackass.
Setup a private tracker and your public tracker problem disappears.
donh't and they have a fair use right to use the public tracker.

I always wonder how this guy got so obsessed with some super-obscure thing that no one has even heard of or care about. Has anyone in their life even heard any person online or off say that they wish there was a "public tracker" so they could download or re-download something? The thought has never been verbalized by one human being in history outside of Gideon himself in these odds threads he posts.

Quoted for truth. :thumbsup

That's because he is not actually in this business, or industry. He just gets his rocks off posting his troll remarks and stirring up shit. How many other threads, business or bullshit, on this board can you honestly remember seeing him in? I mean really?

None.

Other than these copyright/tracker/torrent/DMCA types of things where he is the only one with the same ole shtick about it is legal, or and on and on. He's like a dog with a bone trying to get people all worked up.

He serves no other purpose.
:2 cents:

Well heres an industry that there are not enough baby wipes to wipe away the tears from bitching and complaining about stolen content, yet this is the universal reponse

STolen Content sites suck ass... but Ill advertise there since it makes me money. So basically if anyone advertises on stolen content sites, they are making money off my stolen content or someone else.

The problem ama most of the people here either:
Dont work in porn
Sell something that isnt porn
deal nothing with actual production.

...and they can hire gideongallery from his board troll job, since he has little else going on in the online adult business.

They can put him on legal retainer for their DMCA/copyright lawsuit. He can work his Copperfield on that whole 'time shifting' argument for the judge, like a jester for the king.
:2 cents:

It sucks, I know, but what you gonna do? Call up Brazzers, AFF, and all those other companies who advertise on them and bitch them out? Unfortunately, as much of a tard that guy up top is, if they comply with the DMCA and remove the video, just to have another "user" upload it, they aren't breaking any laws... yet.

Your best bet is to either embrace it and try to make money off it like a lot of programs already are, or fight them to have every bit of your content removed from it.

My suggestion, embrace it, and use it to your advantage. The same shit was going on years ago when MGP's were introduced. :2 cents:

I'm going to bed, its 1:11AM and I'm tired, I'll see this in the morning and respond to anything you say.

I just want to let you know, I'm not against getting rid of illegal tubes, but unless someone steps up and does something truly revolutionary to scare the living shit out of them, nothing will change.

really how can you give advice when you are a programmer and dont sell porn?

How can you judge my knowledge on anything when you don't truly know what I do? I've been in this industry since late 1999, doing everything from programming, to selling porn, just because my main gig is programming, doesn't mean I don't know how to sell porn, or can't.

ok if you say so.

Quoted for truth.

It is like shadow boxing a bunch of devil's advocates with nothing but e-penis, attitude and time (no offense implied to Josh. I am speaking as a collective).

When you break down this business and who actually even OWNS copyright in licenses, content they produce, license, sell it. There are maybe a hundred or two that can actually can speak to it directly (on this board) that are true content producers.

When you add in the different segments OF adult in general, most people do not have a fucking CLUE what they are talking about.

For example I doubt there is one dude who knows as much as ... Robbie and his experience running a huge TGP/network. Or Tony404 and the BBW niche. Or Jim Gunn's almost two decade of experience shooting content, Darby over at Lavish Cash in running a program, polish_aristocrat's domain squatter expertise, or whatever. I doubt there are many in this industry who can speak intelligently on all facets of this adult business. Although reading GFY. You would think EVERYONE owns a tube, and is a legal aid in copyright court cases. Adapt or die b.s...

When you take a step back. It puts that shit back into perspective.

Believe what you want to, but not many on this board know much about me, they just think they do because I fuck around on a board called Go Fuck Yourself.

But don't start judging me and what I know based on the fact that you didn't know anything I did in this industry until a week ago.

I think everybody can have a opinion but I think they should step back and say what if it was my work being given away to sell something I dont make a dime off of how would I feel? Then maybe then they would understand.

you are right I apologize.

That can be said for most on here ginger.

A lot of people make assumptions while trolling threads about what others do (including myself), have done, own, sold, and experience or lack there of. Even under with your old handles exposed, I did not know what all you did until I talked to you. Same as my thread with AlienQ, and I have been around since 2003 on this bitch!!

My point is, unless you know someone personally. I doubt you know how many pies have finger holes in them unless they have admitted to what all they do, or do not.

Agreed.

I am not going to get sucked into another one of gideongallery's threads that result in fighting with other legit webmaster threads over 'theory'.

Peace.

Which " illegal " sites? Anyone have a list?