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Two interesting experiments on the paysites.
Trying to see what effect price and exclusive has to the surfers.
So on www.paulmarkhamporn.com and www.paulmarkhamcherrypoppers.com/tour/ I have introduced a 2 GBP 3 day trial sign up. Will be interesting to see how many go for this, how many rebill and how much more money we make. :gold: On the main site we have added the words "Exclusive to PMTeens" in each exclusive set or videos window. http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/memb...ll=1&orderby=7 Both will be interesting experiments and I will keep you up to date on the changes. Only made them today so it's too early to tell. |
No one got any opinions?
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Uhm.. a trial isn't really 'new' or anything..
btw, you should center the text and images on your join page http://www.paulmarkhamcherrypoppers....ur/join-us.php it's on the left now, doesn't look too pretty! |
Most here don't know what GBP stands for ;-)
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so you are trying to "trick" people into thinking the membership is cheaper because they see the £2 before they see the $3.60 price ?
sorry but to me that just doesnt make sence snd i think you will be seeing people contacting support not understanding why they where not billed $2 insted of $3.60... surfers are stupid and "confusing" or "misleading" them this way will just cause you support trouble and chargeback imo.. same goes with when they click on the link and cant find the £2 on the dropdown from ccbill.. |
Why would you put the price in a currency that is just gonna help confuse the fuck out of the surfer. Sounds like you could end up with some CB's. A lot of people will not read the small print and think they've been charged too much.
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have to agree, 50% of our sales come from europe and everything is us dollar priced. sometimes conversions get lower when the surfer has to make too many decisions. but every scenario must be tested. |
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Last nights ratios were the same as before, so no changes. All the guys asking about pricing it in Pound or Dollers. The traffic is 95% from the UK. I think they will understand the pricing. Also not surfer traffic. Just trying it out. |
I always enjoy the fact that you publically test different things even though some people blow you shit. I can't wait to hear your results. Especially if your traffic is 95% from the UK...
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I dont like trials,especially in a world where they can download your whole site in a couple of hours.
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Most of the shit blowers are just jealous. :1orglaugh |
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Price is not everything.
Actual sales studies have shown higher sales volumes when prices were raised. A higher price connotes quality, a lower price, junk. I would put all prices in US dollars. Instead of trying to confuse the customer, tell them *why* $4.95/ $9.95/ $19.95/ $29.95 is a good deal, all the exclusive content, etc.etc.. |
How come 95% is uk traffic?
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share the info with us!!!
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Blooddolls or one of them is like 10 or 15 bucks a month, the sites do well from what I can tell. We have tested from $20 to $30, a lot.. Sales ratios didn't change, revenue went up, however natural trial to conversions went down. Up to $35 and $40 a month, first month retention went down, sales went down, trial to converts went down. The question comes down to how much do I pay my webmasters per sale and does the price difference cover the lost sales? The price trick is done to cover webmaster payouts. If we pay $35 pps we charge the members more.. Simple as that. Hey Paul, if you change the text to "euro debit and credit cards" or something like that you can remove the price symbol, the text as a billing option will pull better. |
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Will keep everyone informed as we move along. |
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There is this wonderful thing called "limited trials" as i recall SocalCash started it aka Naughty America . :winkwink: |
this entire test is susceptible to being skewed by a downtrend, or any other random things..
while interesting, its' results will be statistically meaningless unless you do proper A/B testing |
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If one month the traffic that comes stops signing up and the next month the traffic start signing up again. For no reason what so ever it will make the whole experiment rendered useless. What's the odds of that then? |
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This is my opinion though, from what I have experienced. |
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Then are there guys who go for the $2.99 once a week or once a month and not looking to spend $30 to jerk off once in a while? I'm testing this theory with this site. www.5dollarsporn.com/petra. It's the first one to go live and the idea is to sell to the guy who only wants a quick thrill tonight. Will be part of a whole family of sites www.5dollarsporn.com/ got 4 there now, two about to come and 30 in the pipeline. Just testing out one of my hair brain schemes that has been done by others. Nothing clever or unique about it and it's doomed to failure. |
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2006-11-19 1:832 Sunday 2006-11-20 1:824 Monday 2006-11-21 1:397 Tuesday 2006-11-22 1:344 Wednesday 2006-11-23 1:400 Thursday 2006-11-24 1:593 Friday 2006-11-25 1:424 Saturday 2006-11-26 1:346 Sunday 2006-11-27 1:518 Monday 2006-11-28 1:664 Tuesday 2006-11-29 1:1008 Wednesday The test started here. 2006-11-30 1:728 Thursday 2006-12-01 1:749 Friday Hard to tell at the moment. Except it, not better. |
HI Paul, i haven't done cheap trials for years. At first I was offering free for three days, then $19.95 ( about 1997) Then when free trials ended I went to $2.95 for three days, recurring at $24.95.
But for the last 5 years I have never offered a free or cheap trial. Wan't to come into my site? That's $29.95 please. And you know what? Signups stayed the same. With so much software out there able to suck your site dry in a couple of days, they can be in and out have have your whole site mirrored on their HD, to jerk off at leisure. All for £2. Sell them the exclusivity. But if they want to see those pics no one else has got, it costs them a full month. Or they can go elsewhere. You have great content. Never undersell your site. |
Thanks for sharing the experiment Paul. Whether it was successful or a failure, you could have very easily kept the information to yourself like 99.99% of programs do :)
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As for price, well I am trying this? A mini porn site for $5.00 http://www.5dollarsporn.com/bitmaps/fb_petra.jpg I think we market a lot to the guys who want to spend $30, so we can pay affiliates, and ignore a lot who only want to jerk off tonight. They don't need a months membership, so resort to the free stuff. Now I need to get traffic to it. |
To really gauge the effectiveness in a study I personally think you should have an entry script. One that randomizes which versions of your tour and price points the potential customers receive. That way it better reduces the chances of odd traffic patterns and the like.
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wow, cheap trials, & trying to con the surfer, great new inovative ideas you have there
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Just pulling your leg, I'm only looking for an over all trend. Incidently the http://www.5dollarsporn.com/petra/ got two sign ups last night. Not bad for a site with no traffic. Maybe someone from here. :winkwink: |
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Geez paul make a new thread to spam the $5 sites it will get you more attention to them :2 cents: |
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So if you're right why are they telling us they are making a fortune out of upsells? See how my ignorance it letting me down and all this confuses me? :winkwink: What works for you works for you, others might work it another way. |
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For those looking at the figures this weekends will be out tomorrow. |
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As for conning surfers, would you like to explain how I'm doing that? :mad: |
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