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SmokeyTheBear 10-20-2006 07:39 PM

ZANGO thinks webmasters are idiots (XBIZ)
 
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=17751

" Zango officials claim their product in no way interferes with normal surfing activity because the user consents to its download and knows what to expect. "

bwaha so if they put " we reserve the right to kick you in the balls every friday " the users wouldnt be annoyed in any way because they consented beforehand..

On one hand they have a point , on the other hand im sure 99% of people wouldnt agree to the terms if they knew exactly what zango was doing..

"Bruzzese claims Zango does not in any way overwrite cookies that are tagged with affiliate ID codes. "

No of course they dont , the advertisers they sell to do...

They must think webmasters are idiots...

FreeHugeMovies 10-20-2006 07:46 PM

First bitches

Missie 10-20-2006 07:47 PM

WTG XBiz!!!

Missie

fuzebox 10-20-2006 07:48 PM

What a fucking joke of an article/interview... If I ever meet this Bruzzese guy in person he is going to get the beatdown of the century.

SmokeyTheBear 10-20-2006 07:58 PM

i know this whole zango biz gets a bit tiring to listen to folks but this should be high priority issue.. these guys are doing 200,000 installs a day.. thats a lotta scoopage..

Tempest 10-20-2006 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11122846)
" Zango officials claim their product in no way interferes with normal surfing activity because the user consents to its download and knows what to expect. "

Morons. One has nothing to do with the other.

heywood 10-20-2006 08:01 PM

This zango thing is insane.

I think we should plan a little something to make their raping and pillaging a little more difficult.

bogo 10-20-2006 08:03 PM

wango ze tango

Huggles 10-20-2006 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11122914)
i know this whole zango biz gets a bit tiring to listen to folks but this should be high priority issue.. these guys are doing 200,000 installs a day.. thats a lotta scoopage..


FUCKING COCKSMOKER THIEVES

xclusive 10-20-2006 08:15 PM

Zango sucks ass. We really need to find a way to stop this shit.

SmokeyTheBear 10-20-2006 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive (Post 11122996)
Zango sucks ass. We really need to find a way to stop this shit.

someone start a fund and PAY the large tgp's to run this script

( plus everyone should just be doing this anyways )

this script will inform people that have zango installed that they are infected and give instructions to remove it without interfering with your regular traffic in any way and wont even disturb zango users , just inform them

------------------------
<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1)
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read - You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.");
</script>

----------------------------------

This next script does the same thing but instead of just informing them it takes them to a page of your choice , this way if you wanted you could make money by selling them some adware removal program ( again it doesnt disrupt traffic in any way )

---------------------------------------

<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1) {
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read -ACCESS TO THIS WEBSITE HAS BEEN DENIED You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.")
window.open('http://www.google.com/search?q=remove+zango','_top');
}
</script>

Nikki_Licks 10-20-2006 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11123040)
someone start a fund and PAY the large tgp's to run this script

( plus everyone should just be doing this anyways )

this script will inform people that have zango installed that they are infected and give instructions to remove it without interfering with your regular traffic in any way and wont even disturb zango users , just inform them

------------------------
<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1)
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read - You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.");
</script>

----------------------------------

This next script does the same thing but instead of just informing them it takes them to a page of your choice , this way if you wanted you could make money by selling them some adware removal program ( again it doesnt disrupt traffic in any way )

---------------------------------------

<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1) {
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read -ACCESS TO THIS WEBSITE HAS BEEN DENIED You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.")
window.open('http://www.google.com/search?q=remove+zango','_top');
}
</script>


Sweet....:thumbsup

Furious_Female 10-20-2006 09:24 PM

How long until there's a class action lawsuit? Or maybe people just don't care until it's too late.

fris 10-20-2006 09:25 PM

rocco from zango sucks large cocks

will76 10-20-2006 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11122846)
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=17751

" Zango officials claim their product in no way interferes with normal surfing activity because the user consents to its download and knows what to expect. "

bwaha so if they put " we reserve the right to kick you in the balls every friday " the users wouldnt be annoyed in any way because they consented beforehand..

On one hand they have a point , on the other hand im sure 99% of people wouldnt agree to the terms if they knew exactly what zango was doing..

"Bruzzese claims Zango does not in any way overwrite cookies that are tagged with affiliate ID codes. "

No of course they dont , the advertisers they sell to do...

They must think webmasters are idiots...

They don't care what "we" think (we =The couple hundred or so webmasters here who know that they are full of shit) That was written for the thousands of webmasters who have not really followed this and the millions of possible surfers who don't know what is going on and may read the article. It's all PR, and spin.


Can someone get me in touch with Xbiz I would like to reply with my own comments. That article just put me back on the warpath.


In partcular the part " ?An individual jumped to a conclusion and launched a forum-based war of words without even bothering to contact us to make sure he understood what was happening.?


I understand perfectly clear you fucks. I jumped to a conclusion that these idiots later CONFIRMED was a problem and THEY asked AFF to stop. But this company is so damn stupid they thought I said AFF and admitted problems with them when what I was talking about (and recorded a video) of a clickcash cookie that was being over written from their zango ads. :mad:

TheDoc 10-20-2006 10:18 PM

I think Xbiz should ask some questions back to them… Just not the person to word the questions :)

I love how Zango just dances around the point. When people type in a domain or click an advertisement to a domain, they want to see the damn site. Not a popup to another product OR the same site which contains a different webmaster ID for that site. Stealing the sale away from the person that originally sent them. The guy needs to be kicked in the teeth.

Dagwolf 10-20-2006 10:24 PM

So that's what Zango is...

tranza 10-20-2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris (Post 11123291)
rocco from zango sucks large cocks

What Rocco? MGP Rocco?????

TheDoc 10-20-2006 10:37 PM

Zango listed on antivirus warning pages:
http://www.trendmicro.com/search/goo..._en-us&q=zango

Or Zango removal info on Spyware sites:
http://www.spyware-removal-guideline.com/zango-removal

I checked the get zango page and the faq, I see nothing about popups. Also, why are popups time delayed? Are you gathering data about surfing habbits? Why does it ask to be installed again after a person removes it? Hell, even Harvard Law says you nasty shit..
http://warren.law.harvard.edu/report...essenger072006


I could sit and pull these all day long, huge range of sites calling it spyware, adware, mukware, malware, and every other analware your ass can take.


Thing is.. Zango is ONE product.. While many others don’t target adult sites, some do, but most aren’t as open about it as the morons.

will76 10-20-2006 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11123528)
I think Xbiz should ask some questions back to them? Just not the person to word the questions :)

I love how Zango just dances around the point. When people type in a domain or click an advertisement to a domain, they want to see the damn site. Not a popup to another product OR the same site which contains a different webmaster ID for that site. Stealing the sale away from the person that originally sent them. The guy needs to be kicked in the teeth.

Exactly, on zango's site when they talk about the search assistant they say it provides an alterntive site/product to what the person is searching for. Which is total BULL SHIT. when a person clicks the " SIGN UP NOW" link on my site they are not looking for an alternative site, they want to signup to the sponsors I am advertising. They don't want a popup.

They try to make themselves out to be a search engine. First of all the SE generates their own traffic. Second people go there looking for something.

fuzebox 10-21-2006 02:49 PM

Bump just so more people can see the code Smokey posted :thumbsup

Martin 10-21-2006 03:05 PM

Fuck these guys. What are some ways we can fight back?

shermo 10-21-2006 03:17 PM

Zango.

Mr. Romance

dissipate 10-21-2006 03:21 PM

I'll be placing this on all my pages.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11123040)
someone start a fund and PAY the large tgp's to run this script

( plus everyone should just be doing this anyways )

this script will inform people that have zango installed that they are infected and give instructions to remove it without interfering with your regular traffic in any way and wont even disturb zango users , just inform them

------------------------
<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1)
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read - You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.");
</script>

----------------------------------

This next script does the same thing but instead of just informing them it takes them to a page of your choice , this way if you wanted you could make money by selling them some adware removal program ( again it doesnt disrupt traffic in any way )

---------------------------------------

<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1) {
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read -ACCESS TO THIS WEBSITE HAS BEEN DENIED You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.")
window.open('http://www.google.com/search?q=remove+zango','_top');
}
</script>


CaptainHowdy 10-21-2006 03:25 PM

Smokey is da best :)!

European Lee 10-21-2006 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11122846)
They must think webmasters are idiots...

They would be right for the most part :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

georgeyw 10-21-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11122846)
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=17751

" Zango officials claim their product in no way interferes with normal surfing activity because the user consents to its download and knows what to expect. "

bwaha so if they put " we reserve the right to kick you in the balls every friday " the users wouldnt be annoyed in any way because they consented beforehand..

On one hand they have a point , on the other hand im sure 99% of people wouldnt agree to the terms if they knew exactly what zango was doing..

"Bruzzese claims Zango does not in any way overwrite cookies that are tagged with affiliate ID codes. "

No of course they dont , the advertisers they sell to do...

They must think webmasters are idiots...

I've really enjoyed the way this whole Zango drama has unravelled here on GFY.

Everyone who has had thefinger pointed at them has simply hired themselves a great PR person and worded up the biggest pile of hogwash.

The thing is Zango the script DOES do the overwriting, the advertiser may pay for it, but they are paying for something that ZANGO does. :mad:

Lazonby 10-21-2006 04:36 PM

Once, I agreed to install Zango because I wanted to use the Bearshare it was bundled with.

Neadless to say, I uninstalled it a day later, due to the pain in the arse it caused.

However, it seemed to persist and I had to employ other measures to get rid of it completely.

Zango sucks, but it's not as bad as getting some scumware from a TGP.

Antonio 10-21-2006 04:44 PM

I have a computer tech site, if someone can write a short article I'll be more than happy to post it there (by article I mean a few paragraphs written in simple English on what Zango is and how to un-install it)

or if you have written something similar before and let me post it there, I will, simply want to spread the word

Martin 10-21-2006 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee (Post 11127243)
They would be right for the most part :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

Speak for yourself:321GFY

Linkster 10-21-2006 04:54 PM

Smokey - how sure are we that the UA will always be that? Is that a definite signature?
The only reason I ask is I know how easy it is to cloak that shit

RawAlex 10-21-2006 05:41 PM

Smokey, how about a variation that logs every zango user on your website to a file or something? It would be interesting to see what the infection level is at.

DTK 10-21-2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 11127552)
Speak for yourself:321GFY

Don't let him get to you, he's always had contempt for webmasters. I'm just amazed some people trust sending their traffic to such a creep.

DarkJedi 10-21-2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissipate (Post 11127165)
I'll be placing this on all my pages.

You are a surfer. You don't have any "pages".



Oh and Smokey, how many people do you think read the Terms&Conditions when they sign up for porn sites? Most of the rebills come from people who don't know that their cards are going to be charged on a monthly basis. How many would agree to sign up fi they knew their personal info is going to be reselled many times over?

And so on.

seeric 10-21-2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11122914)
i know this whole zango biz gets a bit tiring to listen to folks but this should be high priority issue.. these guys are doing 200,000 installs a day.. thats a lotta scoopage..

keep up the battle smokey, thats the only way people listen. zango is just the beginning of dissappearing sales.

RayBonga 10-21-2006 06:46 PM

We need to get end that shit

RawAlex 10-21-2006 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 11127814)
You are a surfer. You don't have any "pages".



Oh and Smokey, how many people do you think read the Terms&Conditions when they sign up for porn sites? Most of the rebills come from people who don't know that their cards are going to be charged on a monthly basis. How many would agree to sign up fi they knew their personal info is going to be reselled many times over?

And so on.

Dark Jedi, people don't read terms and conditions (I doubt anyone reads the real long one that comes with windows XP, example), and companies take advantage of it. However, misunderstanding a billing procedure and misunderstanding that you are allowing a company to potentially violate your provacy, monitor your every action on the net, and innundate you with popup ads all for the joy of watching a 30 second video is an amazing abuse of those terms and conditions.

They do disclose in their terms what they are going to do, but it is the ultimate bullshit type of tag along selling possible. If they offered their "toolbar / surf helper / product" as a stand alone, nobody in their right mind would ever install it ("Yes! I WANT MORE POPUPS! MORE!"). They are shoving an undesirable product down people's throats under the guise of "it's in the terms and conditions".

Then again, the US government has no problem tacking on laws to block gambling onto a national defence bill, so we shouldn't look to the politicos to fix this problem any time soon.

Alex

SmokeyTheBear 10-21-2006 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 11127814)
Oh and Smokey, how many people do you think read the Terms&Conditions when they sign up for porn sites? Most of the rebills come from people who don't know that their cards are going to be charged on a monthly basis. How many would agree to sign up fi they knew their personal info is going to be reselled many times over?

And so on.


When a surfer see's his credit card statement they see who is charging them . a surfer doesnt know zango is adding popups...

Lets be realistic here.. if you asked a surfer " where did this internet charge on your credit card come from " they would know its from a pornsite.. if you asked a surfer " where do these popups come from " they wouldnt know zango. they assume its probably the site they are visiting..

and then theres the legal aspect .. rebills are an industry standard , not just on pornsites.. hijacking a computer is illegal. it doesnt matter if the user agrees to it or not. see "Trespass to chattels"

onlymovies 10-21-2006 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 11123040)
someone start a fund and PAY the large tgp's to run this script

( plus everyone should just be doing this anyways )

this script will inform people that have zango installed that they are infected and give instructions to remove it without interfering with your regular traffic in any way and wont even disturb zango users , just inform them

------------------------
<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1)
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read - You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.");
</script>

----------------------------------

This next script does the same thing but instead of just informing them it takes them to a page of your choice , this way if you wanted you could make money by selling them some adware removal program ( again it doesnt disrupt traffic in any way )

---------------------------------------

<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1) {
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read -ACCESS TO THIS WEBSITE HAS BEEN DENIED You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.")
window.open('http://www.google.com/search?q=remove+zango','_top');
}
</script>


To hard and to much time.

I'll probably get shit for this, but I would write a script and have it clean the surfers system of zango silently in the background. All these adware guys back in the day did everything silently..installs, etc via exploits. Some still do. So why not reverse it.....it's illegal ofcourse, even if you're doing a good thing for humanity......hmmm...

There are many ways to do this.

onlymovies 10-21-2006 10:57 PM

What about tricking the surfer....same way these adware guys do in order to get them to signup. Encode some movies that need "a new codec"...make them agree to it so it's legal (ie, in the terms). But the "codec" cleans the surfers computer of that shit.


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