Good idea and so easy to do. :thumbsup

lets keep this fucker bumped

zango rocks..........!






























joking.... :)

Here is some news for those who don't know:

The toolbar and scumware people do this all the time - most of the installers for "black hat" toolbars first take steps to remove any other known toolbars from the systems they infect. It sort of becomes a war inside your PC, as the two (or more) toolbars fight it out for surpremacy.

It is one of the reasons most of the toolbars (including apparently Zango) have remarkable self healing (what we can self re-installation) abilities, hiding version of themselves all over the place so that they can be re-activated and reloaded automatically even after an attack to remove them.

We would have to have a large number of people working endlessly to try to find ways to get rid of this stuff... have you seen how many version of coolwebsearch there are?

You are an idiot. Sites that rebill do not hide that information in the TOS page. It is right under the signup option they choose on the signup page, clear as day. Comments like this proove to me that you don't advertise membership sites. Perhaps you make all your money from installs ?

But would it be illegal if we offered them a free porn video and to clean their PC of spyware all at the same time.

Download this video from my site and enjoy it for FREE. While you watch this video we will also clean your PC of spyware. This is a FREE service. If you like my video please come check out my site some time. Enjoy!

In our TOS they would agree to, they would give us premission to clean their pc of adware ;)

I made the post above before I read your post.

I think we are onto somethign here.

Advertise your site and help fight back against these assholes.

I hope these threads stay active for quite a while.

I hope a few big TGPs take you up on that suggestion Smokey.

Expanding on this idea, once our program is installed it will not only clean their PC of spyware but will block their software from being installed ever again. I am not a programmer but I am sure we could block all of the ips/urls that they use to install this shit on that peron's computer.

If somethign did get through the surfer would be alerted to it ( big flashing neon signs ) to which spyware made it through and how to manually uninstall it and give them the contact info of that spyware company and the contact info of the FTC to complain to.

Forgive me for being an optimist, but i think this could work.

I would think with the reach of the adult net getting more sites than is required would be the easy part.

50........ :glugglug

i'm promoting Zango and don't give a shit about any of you clowns

Well, instead of stopping surfers to install.. What about webmasters stopping to promote Zango

Thanks for the javascript. Installing it my sites now

:1orglaugh Yeah, ur a slave of Zango.
Sorry u lost ya respect, someone stepped on ur tinny dick or what ?

This is a nice solution which will work as long as Zango choose to disclose it's presence via the User Agent information. So it is not 100% bullet-proof

I would also search for their alternative name - "seekmo" - in addition to "zango".

Replace
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1)

With
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1 || agt.indexOf("seekmo")!=-1)

The final script would look like

<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1 || agt.indexOf("seekmo")!=-1){
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read - You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.");
window.open('http://www.google.com/search?q=remove+zango','_top');
}
</script>


Thanks to Smokey for providing a small and simple solution which webmasters can implement. Better than nothing.

bump for this

Nice script Smokey, question for you: if one forwarded traffic to a spyware remover after Zango detection, then the user would clear any cookies Zango placed, good.

But wouldn't it also clear my cookies that we're appropriately placed and not interfered with by the previous Zango install?

Thanks for the script Smokey, I'm seeing a LOT more Zango traffic appearing in my stats, although I don't generate masses of sales yet, I don't want to be losing the sales I am getting. Is there a way I can get this to appear on my site without having to add it to each page?

I'm seeing most of the zango traffic coming in from my galleries, I can't really add scripts to galleries or I won't get listed!

It'd be great if the TGPs out there were running the script.

rigrunner, you might want to contact the TGPs that are sending you the traffic and suggest they try running Smokey's thing for a few days to see what happens.

yep already done that!

I'm seeing a bigger increase in the 'funwebproducts' user agent too, I know this is more of a mainstream one..and probably doesn't affect my sales. I guess it's just interesting to see just how many surfers have this stuff on their computers.

Is there any way that I could add something to my htaccess to redirect people with these user agents to sites where they can be removed?

1) Fuck sponsors doing biz with them.
Want a list ?
2) Fuck webmasters advertising their shit.

If we all stand for, it will work.

Well well well
Look at the country in your profile. If it's true, then i understand everything. :1orglaugh

How's it feels to be a dumb ass ?

Poor kiddo, poor poor kiddo.:upsidedow

As mommy done your laundry yet ?
Oh wait i hear her yelling at you that the super's ready.
Now go find mommy fast before she picks up your first Zango check, you dirty little slut hehehehehehehehehe

A lot of webmasters ARE idiots. Just like the rest of the population.

You can add this code too your htaccess file which will redirect any surfer with zango toolbar installed to any page you wish. This should keep you legal with your gallery pages

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^.*ZangoToolbar.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yourdomain.com.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yourdomain.com.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .* http://www.zangoremover.com




zangoremover.com can be changed to any page you wish to send the surfer

I added this to 1 of my sites as a test last week and have seen around 5 redirects per hundred visits everyday. thats 5% which will only grow if zango is installing 200,000 toolbars a day

yup even better



<script>
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
if (agt.indexOf("zango")!=-1 || agt.indexOf("seekmo")!=-1 || agt.indexOf("funweb")!=-1 || agt.indexOf("coolweb")!=-1 || agt.indexOf("hotbar")!=-1){
alert("WARNING - do not close this message - please read - You have what many people call dangerous spyware known as ZANGO installed on your system. We are not here to sell you anything you can remove it for free simply go to google and type REMOVE ZANGO into the search box and you will find many websites to help you remove it.");
window.open('http://www.google.com/search?q=remove+my+spyware','_top');
}
</script>

:thumbsup
Thanks! That's exactly the kind of thing I need, I just wasn't sure if it would ban all internet explorer users lol..
It's scary seeing how many have the toolbar (and others)

Whilst I'm at it - what other useragents should I be adding to the list? I'm sure there's others out there

It is excellent that at least a few people are reacting to this issue, but just a couple of thoughts:

1. If you block people with scumware from your sites, you are certainly p*ssing them off: that's neither the best way to build traffic nor to have them take very seriously what they are likely to imagine is a sales pitch when they hit your anti-scumware page. I have said in a couple of threads that it might be better to detect the user agents and use that to replace some of your regular promos with scumware infomercials. You keep the surfer happy, you still have the chance to get the message across and if he chooses to find out more, he is much more likely to clean his PC.

2. It would be unfortunate if you were blocking people who could in fact reach the particular sponsors you are promoting: not every click to a sponsor is going to have a window pop over it. Again, it is sensible to react to this crap, but if you are going this route, it would be a very good idea to infect a spare PC and test your sites. Your promos may be unaffected or you might be able to find others which are. Alternately the promos which do generate the scumware popovers would be the ones to replace with scumware infomercials for infected surfers.

3. As well as taking steps to protect your sites directly, have you stopped dealing with sponsors who work with and/or support scumware. Have you made sure you have no traffic trades with, do not buy from or sell to anyone who promotes scumware? Scumware is being installed at a far faster rate than we can hope to get it uninstalled: a long-term solution demands that we punish those who support it.

Why not redirect them to AFF??? I could win a Ferrari :-)

#1 as mentioned the first method will simply inform the users , they will still have access to your site , their experince wont be interfered with other than the one alert

#2 see #1 i should also mention i suggested redirecting them to google to find their own solution to remove zango because then they will understand its not a sales pitch .

#3 :thumbsup :thumbsup

Id like someone to post a list of sponsors who do business with spyware.

That would add some help to the situation.

Id also like to know why XBIZ gave Zango a platform to further their propoganda? If the article was meant to inform people, then I would think the article would have been more focused on actually informing people that they need to be aware, instead, the article seemed more like "damage control".

How about to send them to the Zango site itself with this script? They won´t see anything but Zango, will they?

Thankfully, people are smarter than Zango, and as a result, their install base doesn't seem to be going up very fast. Their churn rate appears to be about 300% per year, and with improved scumware removal tools and the switch to Vista in the near future, I suspect their numbers will go down.

I am looking at the code you posted and considering it to see what the numbers are like - my stats for saturday showed 2.8%.

i just installed zango myself - just to see what the hype was about and if the .htaccess redirection worked.

Sometimes it goes to my site (the redirect works fine!) other times a search page appears in the main browser window. Sometimes it just refreshes to cams.com pages...AFF even get a little banner gif appearing in the toolbar sometimes... :(

Zango well slows down my computer hahahaha, im not so sure that many surfers would feel safe actually buying porn whilst this shit is on their pc, coz seriously..it's running slower than a snail.... but i do think there's a fair bit of lost traffic due to Zango....

Interesting to see there's even a few pops for registry cleaners & spyware removal!!

There's a LOT of adult sponsors and affiliates using this to push their own sites. Desperate times eh?

so is it safe to say that these programs are in bed with zango?

cams.com
adult friend frinder

who else?

sexsearch big time.

It makes me happy and sad at the same time that many of you are trying to find ways around zango and how to get rid of it. However, by posting this information IN A PUBLIC FORUM, you are giving them everything they need to counter any action taken against them.

If what has been posted so far works today, don't expect it to still be working in a week from now. Programmers will probably have found ways to keep the installs on the computers totally bypassing your codes. It's so easy for them, they can see exactly how you're doing it.

As for automatic removal scripts for scumware... I discussed this with an anti spyware company a while back. Although they thought it was a good idea, they were against it for several reasons. 1) what if some idiots installed it on purpose and didn't want to get rid of it, 2) MANY of these applications use legit files to hide themselves - when they find out that there is a script to remove them, they'll find new ways to hide - the script needs to be updated on a regular basis - so what if webmasters don't update their codes and fuck up computers even worse by trying to remove it than the scumware itself? And other reasons not to be discussed publicly.

Those who think you can remove scumware just using the add/remove programs tool, you're complete fools.

The idea of just informing surfers that they're infected and giving them links to remove it - like a google search - is a good one. Links directly to spyware removal can create more suspicion as many have done this in the past and it led straight to spyware applications.

Just don't post your great ideas in this forum. Find a way to communicate it via ICQ or email or whatever that will be kept private and make sure you're not giving it away to some moron who actually promotes their installs or condones it.

Missie

Zango = cunts