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quiet 10-17-2004 10:48 AM

Canadians: best guaranteed rate of return investment available?
 
the highest guaranteed return (minimum amount of cash required is not an issue)... can you give me a qualifying, verifiable link?

whoever can give me a no bullshit web link to the very highest guaranteed return on capital available in Canada - i'll send 50 bucks via paypal. make sure you can accept paypal from a creditcard-funded account first. a little experiment of mine. it's all about numbers, whoever can find the highest verifiable for all to see.

i'll let this thread run for 2 days and see where it ends up...

cheers :glugglug

AndrewKanuck 10-17-2004 11:57 AM

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xclusive 10-17-2004 12:04 PM

http://www.gtarealtor.ca/bestroineighbourhoods.htm

There is nothing better than real estate...

Rollin Studios 10-17-2004 12:07 PM

Grow Op :2 cents:

WarChild 10-17-2004 12:11 PM

Hey Quiet there's something I wanted to talk to you about. How can I get ahold of you? Email? ICQ? (mine's 97374780)

WiredGuy 10-17-2004 12:14 PM

I'd love to see some serious posts as well, got some cash I'd love to lay away. Preference to invest in USD but must be available for Canadians to invest.

WG

johndoebob 10-17-2004 12:16 PM

Try google answers, there are dedicated researchers. :2 cents:

answers.google.com

KCat 10-17-2004 12:37 PM

Hook up with a good mortgage broker. You can get up to 14% by lending money as a second mortgage, secured by the property. A lot of people are taking the equity out of their homes these days to pay off credit cards etc.

You can set this up via a self-directed RRSP as well.

Steen2 10-17-2004 12:40 PM

Talk to a good lawyer and accountant :)

quiet 10-17-2004 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I'd love to see some serious posts as well, got some cash I'd love to lay away. Preference to invest in USD but must be available for Canadians to invest.

WG

exactly.

EscortBiz 10-17-2004 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steen2
Talk to a good lawyer and accountant :)
or stock broker or financial advisor





























and get fucked out of money

yys 10-17-2004 12:42 PM

Pick yourself up a weekend Globe and Mail. They list the highest rates in the country for GIC's every week.

Peoples Trust has the highest 30 day(2.35%/$5,000; 2.45%/$50,000) and 1 year rates(3.1%/$5,000)

Achieva Financial has the highest 5 year rates(4.55%/$1,000)

GIC's are a money loser outside of an RRSP or RIFF though; there was a paper that came out of York U last March about it. You can check it out here The Erosion Effects of Income Taxes and Inflation on GIC Investment Returns


Keep the $50 if these are the highest rates anyone finds.

Steen2 10-17-2004 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
or stock broker or financial advisor





























and get fucked out of money

Note the "good" :thumbsup

FlyingIguana 10-17-2004 01:03 PM

why go for guaranteed and get shit rates? i wouldn't even recommend that for retired people.

get a diversified portfolio to minimize risks and take home a higher return. get a good financial planner who deals with high net worth clients or go with hedge funds

FlyingIguana 10-17-2004 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steen2
Talk to a good lawyer and accountant :)
what the fuck would they know about investing?

quiet 10-17-2004 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yys
Pick yourself up a weekend Globe and Mail. They list the highest rates in the country for GIC's every week.

Peoples Trust has the highest 30 day(2.35%/$5,000; 2.45%/$50,000) and 1 year rates(3.1%/$5,000)

Achieva Financial has the highest 5 year rates(4.55%/$1,000)

GIC's are a money loser outside of an RRSP or RIFF though; there was a paper that came out of York U last March about it. You can check it out here The Erosion Effects of Income Taxes and Inflation on GIC Investment Returns


Keep the $50 if these are the highest rates anyone finds.

http://www.moneysense.ca/rates/gic_l...able/index.jsp

maxjohan 10-17-2004 01:13 PM

http://money.howstuffworks.com/bank8.htm

IF you want to make bank :1orglaugh

AndrewKanuck 10-17-2004 01:27 PM

If you want to talk seriously, I'd be glad to give you the ins and outs of real estate/rental properties and where some hot zones are. Investment isn't too low, but still great ROI if you hit the right location. I've got 5 rental properties split into triplexes now, so total of 15 rental checks each month - all properties are next to one another, on a street about 3 minute walk from 2 universities, and 10 minutes from the hospital. Hospital staff is about 50% of the rental, the rest is students.

Location is key if you're looking for sort of long-term investment. If you're looking for short term, get into real estate for development (un developped land, turn it around and flip it for profit).

FlyingIguana 10-17-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
If you want to talk seriously, I'd be glad to give you the ins and outs of real estate/rental properties and where some hot zones are. Investment isn't too low, but still great ROI if you hit the right location. I've got 5 rental properties split into triplexes now, so total of 15 rental checks each month - all properties are next to one another, on a street about 3 minute walk from 2 universities, and 10 minutes from the hospital. Hospital staff is about 50% of the rental, the rest is students.

Location is key if you're looking for sort of long-term investment. If you're looking for short term, get into real estate for development (un developped land, turn it around and flip it for profit).

where are your properties located?

AndrewKanuck 10-17-2004 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
where are your properties located?
Halifax. I'm looking at purchasing the other 4 houses on the street now, and also looking into another University city in the Atlantic's.

quiet 10-17-2004 01:34 PM

this thread was started with one thing in mind. guaranteed % return. so far nothing.

FlyingIguana 10-17-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Halifax. I'm looking at purchasing the other 4 houses on the street now, and also looking into another University city in the Atlantic's.
lol, i was thinking immediately of the halifax area, went to smu. real estate is so cheap there compared to toronto

AndrewKanuck 10-17-2004 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
this thread was started with one thing in mind. guaranteed % return. so far nothing.
You want guaranteed return? Lock your money in on a GIC/Bond. With great risk comes great reward - get into real estate.

EscortBiz 10-17-2004 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
this thread was started with one thing in mind. guaranteed % return. so far nothing.
the bank is your answer, most everything else will either require work on your end and if it doesnt and the % is anything to talk about its very risky

Anyone who says real estate requires no work is a total idiot

AndrewKanuck 10-17-2004 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
lol, i was thinking immediately of the halifax area, went to smu. real estate is so cheap there compared to toronto
Yeah, the town houses are incredibly cheap - but they need work to turn them into rental's - unless you rent out the whole house to a frat...which I'm sure would be a lot more of a hassle then my current model

WarChild 10-17-2004 01:39 PM

Quiet is there any way someone (myself) can contact you off this board? I'd like to ask you something but don't want to post it publically.

WiredGuy 10-17-2004 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
http://www.moneysense.ca/rates/gic_l...able/index.jsp

These are for Canadian Dollar investments right?
WG

AndrewKanuck 10-17-2004 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
Anyone who says real estate requires no work is a total idiot
You can make real estate very *low* work, but not *no work*. If you know people, and can trust them, you can easily have someone manage the property for you and you just sign the checks at the end of the month.

quiet 10-17-2004 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
the bank is your answer, most everything else will either require work on your end and if it doesnt and the % is anything to talk about its very risky

Anyone who says real estate requires no work is a total idiot

no doubt eb. but i'm still on the lookout for something slightly better (not much), but still containing a fixed rate of return.

quiet 10-17-2004 01:45 PM

and i already have loads of money in real estate. i enjoy real estate. i'm not talking about real estate in this thread.

KRL 10-17-2004 01:50 PM

Canadian Premium Bonds Year 3 - 3.20%

5-Yr Non-Redeemable GIC's - 3.56%

FlyingIguana 10-17-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
no doubt eb. but i'm still on the lookout for something slightly better (not much), but still containing a fixed rate of return.
if you want better you'll be taking on risk.

KRL 10-17-2004 01:51 PM

You might also want to browse the links off the official Canadian CDIC list.

http://www.cdic.ca/?id=5

:thumbsup

quiet 10-17-2004 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Canadian Premium Bonds Year 3 - 3.20%

5-Yr Non-Redeemable GIC's - 3.56%

can do better than that with other basic gics...

cool1 10-17-2004 01:53 PM

Have you had a look at Investor Group

KRL 10-17-2004 01:53 PM

RBC (Royal Bank of Canada) has a 10 year non-redemable GIC at 3.90 % right now.

speakthetruth 10-17-2004 01:57 PM

Chat boards. Partner up with a fellow pot head for bonus bucks.

KCat 10-17-2004 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
this thread was started with one thing in mind. guaranteed % return. so far nothing.
If you become a private lender with a mortgage broker, you do get a guaranteed rate of return, in the ballpark of 14%. You set the terms & decide which loans you want to approve & which you don't. Never lend more than 75% of the equity of the home & the risk is minimal.

KRL 10-17-2004 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
can do better than that with other basic gics...
Well you have to consider the institution behind it also.

Don't you have a financial advisor? With the size of your load, I'd recommend getting one on a full time basis.

GTS Mark 10-17-2004 02:02 PM

I'm looking for some investment money for a 2nd mortgage on a commerical/residential rental property we are looking at buying. We're looking for 150k Canadian investment.

I'm offering 10-11% interest on this money plus the risk is low since you will have registered chattel on the property.

I don't know if this is of any interest to you but it's a pretty rate in comparison to what the banks want to offer.

DH


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