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SuckOnThis 06-12-2004 02:21 PM

Get over it, Reagan sucked
 
Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Gorbachev was the man behind these two things, Reagan just happened to be in office at the time. Communism was failing long before Reagan came into office.

He started the mess with Saddam Hussein by selling him biological and chemical weapons in the 1980s.

Oh, and 9/11? That was his. Osama bin Laden and his fellow Afghan "freedom fighters" got their funding from Reagan.

Reagan expanded the federal government by close to 90%.

He created the homeless 'underclass' with draconian cuts in social programs and programs for the mentally ill.

He declared war on the environment, accelerating the global warming problem (remember 'trees pollute more than cars???').

He lied about people on welfare, claiming that a woman would collect her welfare checks while driving a Cadillac.

He slashed funding for alternative energy programs, just after the 1970s oil crisis, stopping those programs in their tracks and leading to the peak oil crisis we'll soon be facing.

He cut funding for medical research, including cancer, Alzheimer's, diabetes, and heart disease.

And he exploded the nation's deficit. It took President Clinton years to balance the budget after Reagan's foolhardy spending sprees of the 1980s.

Iran contra scandal.

He created a culture in which 'greed is good', leading to the S&L failures of the 1980s and 1990s.

Reagan actually said homeless people choose to be homeless.

He was an evil bastard and good riddance. I am so sick of the sanitized 'st. ronnie' that's being broadcast by media whores 24/7.

~Ray 06-12-2004 02:25 PM

at least he was man enough to tell people where he was from... unlike you ... pussy.

fucking_remco 06-12-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Gorbachev was the man behind these two things, Reagan just happened to be in office at the time. Communism was failing long before Reagan came into office.

He started the mess with Saddam Hussein by selling him biological and chemical weapons in the 1980s.

Oh, and 9/11? That was his. Osama bin Laden and his fellow Afghan "freedom fighters" got their funding from Reagan.

Reagan expanded the federal government by close to 90%.

He created the homeless 'underclass' with draconian cuts in social programs and programs for the mentally ill.

He declared war on the environment, accelerating the global warming problem (remember 'trees pollute more than cars???').

He lied about people on welfare, claiming that a woman would collect her welfare checks while driving a Cadillac.

He slashed funding for alternative energy programs, just after the 1970s oil crisis, stopping those programs in their tracks and leading to the peak oil crisis we'll soon be facing.

He cut funding for medical research, including cancer, Alzheimer's, diabetes, and heart disease.

And he exploded the nation's deficit. It took President Clinton years to balance the budget after Reagan's foolhardy spending sprees of the 1980s.

Iran contra scandal.

He created a culture in which 'greed is good', leading to the S&L failures of the 1980s and 1990s.

Reagan actually said homeless people choose to be homeless.

He was an evil bastard and good riddance. I am so sick of the sanitized 'st. ronnie' that's being broadcast by media whores 24/7.


Nice list, i still like Reagan, now start with bush, would probably make a list ten times this one....

just a punk 06-12-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Gorbachev was the man behind these two things, Reagan just happened to be in office at the time. Communism was failing long before Reagan came into office.
Agreed :thumbsup

SuckOnThis 06-12-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
at least he was man enough to tell people where he was from... unlike you ... pussy.
Damn, havent been called a pussy for 20 years when I was in the 8th grade, which I surmise is your mentality level.

And WTF do you care where I'm from? You want to come visit?

Fletch XXX 06-12-2004 02:34 PM

:)

bling_machine 06-12-2004 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis


He was an evil bastard and good riddance. I am so sick of the sanitized 'st. ronnie' that's being broadcast by media whores 24/7.

Amen.
Fuck Ronnie. What about the Iran contra affair, genocide in Nicaragua, and Reagan economics. The list goes on and on.

~Ray 06-12-2004 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Damn, havent been called a pussy for 20 years when I was in the 8th grade, which I surmise is your mentality level.

And WTF do you care where I'm from? You want to come visit?

suck on this :321GFY

just a punk 06-12-2004 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Oh, and 9/11? That was his. Osama bin Laden and his fellow Afghan "freedom fighters" got their funding from Reagan.
100% correct! Just take a look at Rambo III which was filmed in Reagan times. This movie fully reflects the overall spirits of the USA for that time. "This movie is dedicated to brave Afghan people blah-blah-blah..." 9/11 was a reciprocal gift from that "brave Afghan people" to the USA. I.e. on 9/11 the States got that they paid for in 80's... :2 cents:

KRL 06-12-2004 02:38 PM

It was kind of funny how the media was mostly only talking about the good side of his administration and not the darker stuff all week long.

Seems like a lot of folks had temporary amnesia.

Tom_PMs 06-12-2004 02:40 PM

Everyone who gets funding at some point in the past changes course eventually.

9/11 was created and enacted by terrorists. Period.

You think the king of england funded trips to the "new world" expecting the new united states to pop up and kick his ass out of town?

Closed.

just a punk 06-12-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
It was kind of funny how the media was mostly only talking about the good side of his administration and not the darker stuff all week long.

Seems like a lot of folks had temporary amnesia.

Just like we say here: "Speak well about the dead, or speak nothing..."

just a punk 06-12-2004 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM
9/11 was created and enacted by terrorists.
...that were sponsored by CIA. Did you mean this?

SlickRick 06-12-2004 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Gorbachev was the man behind these two things, Reagan just happened to be in office at the time. Communism was failing long before Reagan came into office.

He started the mess with Saddam Hussein by selling him biological and chemical weapons in the 1980s.

Oh, and 9/11? That was his. Osama bin Laden and his fellow Afghan "freedom fighters" got their funding from Reagan.

Reagan expanded the federal government by close to 90%.

He created the homeless 'underclass' with draconian cuts in social programs and programs for the mentally ill.

He declared war on the environment, accelerating the global warming problem (remember 'trees pollute more than cars???').

He lied about people on welfare, claiming that a woman would collect her welfare checks while driving a Cadillac.

He slashed funding for alternative energy programs, just after the 1970s oil crisis, stopping those programs in their tracks and leading to the peak oil crisis we'll soon be facing.

He cut funding for medical research, including cancer, Alzheimer's, diabetes, and heart disease.

And he exploded the nation's deficit. It took President Clinton years to balance the budget after Reagan's foolhardy spending sprees of the 1980s.

Iran contra scandal.

He created a culture in which 'greed is good', leading to the S&L failures of the 1980s and 1990s.

Reagan actually said homeless people choose to be homeless.

He was an evil bastard and good riddance. I am so sick of the sanitized 'st. ronnie' that's being broadcast by media whores 24/7.


Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....

You are good at throwing out some of the bad things hes done. Spend some time post the good points in his 2-4 year terms.


OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE....

SuckOnThis 06-12-2004 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
It was kind of funny how the media was mostly only talking about the good side of his administration and not the darker stuff all week long.

Seems like a lot of folks had temporary amnesia.

Well thats the 'left wing media' for ya.

Tom_PMs 06-12-2004 02:48 PM

When theres proof that the CIA sponsored the terrorists acts of 9/11, post a link and we'll talk.

Contrary to popular belief, most people arent so closed minded to deny facts once there *are* facts. Myths are another thing altogether.

For the record, I think there were tremendous failures leading up to 9/11.

For the record, I dont think that tremendous failures are the same thing as intentional actions.

nofx 06-12-2004 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM
Everyone who gets funding at some point in the past changes course eventually.

9/11 was created and enacted by terrorists. Period.

You think the king of england funded trips to the "new world" expecting the new united states to pop up and kick his ass out of town?

Closed.

and where and from who do you think Osama got his training?

doober 06-12-2004 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
It was kind of funny how the media was mostly only talking about the good side of his administration and not the darker stuff all week long.

Seems like a lot of folks had temporary amnesia.

so eerily similar of gfy


:winkwink:

jimmyf 06-12-2004 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlickRick
Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....

You are good at throwing out some of the bad things hes done. Spend some time post the good points in his 2-4 year terms.


OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE....

I'm sure we could go back and find ALL past Prez. did shit that amounted to cluster fucks. :Graucho Don't care which one pick one and do a little research.

just a punk 06-12-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlickRick
Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....
Bush also was VERY popular (at least until today) :Graucho

genomega 06-12-2004 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlickRick
Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....

You are good at throwing out some of the bad things hes done. Spend some time post the good points in his 2-4 year terms.


OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE....

Funny they never mention the mess that Carter left behind.

12%+ Inflation
10%+ Unemployment
200+ Hostages being held in Iran
Commies taking over countries in latin america

This is just the short list.

:Graucho

just a punk 06-12-2004 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM
When theres proof that the CIA sponsored the terrorists acts of 9/11, post a link and we'll talk.
A link to what? To the CIA report that Osama was THEIR AGENT? Is this still a secret for you?

Matiz 06-12-2004 02:53 PM

Yes, Reagan was not perfect, but I liked him.

Tom_PMs 06-12-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

and where and from who do you think Osama got his training?
My comments were about the inherent risks in backing a certain group, and the inability to forsee what that group might become sometime in the future.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Where was miss cleo when we needed her? :waaaaahh

jimmyf 06-12-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by genomega
Funny they never mention the mess that Carter left behind.

12%+ Inflation
10%+ Unemployment
200+ Hostages being held in Iran
Commies taking over countries in latin america

This is just the short list.

:Graucho

interest rates 18%

just a punk 06-12-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nofx
and where and from who do you think Osama got his training?
Even 5yo child knows that Osama was trained by CIA. This is a fucking fact!

SuckOnThis 06-12-2004 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlickRick
Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....


For the same reason almost half the country still think Bush is a good president. The average person is uninformed and buys into the conservative propaganda marketing machine.

jimmyf 06-12-2004 02:59 PM

Liberals need 2 just face facts.

After a one term democratic President, takes a Republican President 2 terms to get the country back on there feet.

Tom_PMs 06-12-2004 03:00 PM

Training someone to fight your enemy at the time isnt the same as saying "Oh. and when you find time, slam some passenger planes into these buildings, k?"

d'oh :glugglug

Tom_PMs 06-12-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

After a one term democratic President, takes a Republican President 2 terms to get the country back on there feet.

Yeah, see how hard we're working on getting Iraq back on it's feet? :2 cents:

SuckOnThis 06-12-2004 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by genomega
Funny they never mention the mess that Carter left behind.

12%+ Inflation
10%+ Unemployment
200+ Hostages being held in Iran
Commies taking over countries in latin america

This is just the short list.

:Graucho

True, Carter was an economic failure, but at least he was a humanitarian.

And if they were plastering Carter all over the media for the past week talking about what a God he was I would be saying the same shit.

just a punk 06-12-2004 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
For the same reason almost half the country still think Bush is a good president. The average person is uninformed and buys into the conservative propaganda marketing machine.
Sad but true. The biggest part of people is not genius. Especially if we are talking about the continental America (I don't mean NY etc)

benc 06-12-2004 03:06 PM

The people that believe in half truths and are so biased are ignorant.

just a punk 06-12-2004 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM
Training someone to fight your enemy at the time isnt the same as saying "Oh. and when you find time, slam some passenger planes into these buildings, k?"

d'oh :glugglug

Not ok. Don't feed a snake because some day it may bite you. Only a stupid fuck will train a terrorist. Even "to fight its enemy".

Tom_PMs 06-12-2004 03:09 PM

Well thats just not fair.. How can I argue that theres no stupid fucks in government? lmao :thumbsup

SuckOnThis 06-12-2004 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cyberxxx
Not ok. Don't feed a snake because some day it may bite you. Only a stupid fuck will train a terrorist. Even "to fight its enemy".
Yep, that pretty much says it all.

just a punk 06-12-2004 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM
Well thats just not fair.. How can I argue that theres no stupid fucks in government? lmao :thumbsup
Are you a government guru? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

abyss_al 06-12-2004 03:13 PM

he fucking sold drugs to this country to fund the fucking war.... forgot about the iran/contra?

Bansheelinks 06-12-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall.
So who are we to believe, incredibly high ranking Soviet officials and generals who all BLAME Reagan for upping the ante and pushing the Soviet Union over the abyss, and wrecking their economy.......................or you? :1orglaugh

Learn some foreign policy before you post. Communism was on its way out, for sure, but it may have hung around for DECADES if Reagan didn't push it over the cliff. By doing so, he may have tripled the debt due to military spending, but he saved trillions of dollars in the long run.

Tom_PMs 06-12-2004 03:16 PM

lol no, just pissed at the mess we have to clean up because of past mistakes. Such is life.
Every president does something at sometime that winds up biting us in the ass.


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