Why do they cancel immediately after signing up you ask?
 

Cause I just saw an intriguing site from a well known sponsor around here and decided I take a look. OMG Milf site featuring all Teen videos, 300 out of the 500 thumbnail previews are broken images. Over 50% of the links are 404's. And to think this guy was talking shit about all the other cookie cutter milf sites. Man if you guys really run your shit like this, I feel bad for ya. NO Milf's anywhere inside the members area:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Hey what do ya want for a free 1 day trial with 2 prechecked upsells at 40 bucks a pop not to mention the additional 40 after the 1 day trial. 120 Beans not bad

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Yup, the majority of sites suck. Of course there are very good sites as well. You really need to check out any site before you promote it. You might get lucky with a hit but it might be a miss.

Also, just because a sponsor has had good results for you in the past with old sites, any new sites they release might not be up to par or not the proper research went into the site's niche first.

Check everything out. That's the best two cents I can give..

Cheers,
Matt

Was it a dollar/10 dollar site?

Interesting and pretty smart actually. I need to look into that approach myself. The free trial didn't cost the surfer anything and after seeing that members area they are probably thrilled with the other sites.

Brutal is the only word to describe it. Fuckin hilarious, let me get a link

Some people sign up and only intend to pay for the trial, therefore, they cancel right away incase they forget to later on and get rebilled.

NO

I always do that. :)

yeah baby
get us the dirty stuff :Graucho

Figure it out http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=trial

It really depends on a lot. I would be pretty disappointed of an affiliate program if they tricked you into tricking your surfer into sending them to a "Great" crap site. Of course you 'get what you pay for' but in some cases you don't get anything close to it. I do understand it's busy, but it's a little dirty.

Cheers,
Matt

go on..

This is very true and depends on what traffic you are sending, definately wouldn't want to send bookmarkers over there.

Sure wouldn't want to. :)

Cheers,
Matt

I wouldnt send my enemy to this site. I mean you wanna talk about "jerk-off frustration" a guy who wants Milf's is subjected to 404's all over the place Broken Images and all teen videos. That guy is pissed, I was :Graucho

Just goes to show you that you gotta make sure to test the stuff before you promote it. Why waste you traffic if even you wouldnt want to keep a membership there.

Oh ya no doubt, shit I was just lookin for a few hot 35-40 year olds, fuck I got a ton of Sobe content:1orglaugh

Unfortunately there are a lot of crappy paysites out there, cookie-cutter sites with shitty content etc. And there are for sure some TGPs with better content :glugglug

ya cant give a guy teen videos when the site has the word MOM in the domain:1orglaugh

Its a good thing I don't promote PORNDOLLAR?

you can these days!!! makes perfect sense to me!!

:Graucho man thats really fucked up, really

That tour design of that Porndollar site is garbage too. Looks like someone threw it together in an hour or so.

Guess you have to compliment the garbage inside as well.

It's possible. And would work if the domain was YoungMom.com or YoungMILF.com (both taken, don't bother looking)... otherwise they may not convert too well.

Cheers,
Matt

Wow thats pretty bad... :/ Do you think the surfer will be less likely to buy from other sites after seeing a crappy one like that?

hmmm....ya think?

Buyer beware, but abandoned pay sites and shitty members areas are hurting the whole industry. It makes the surfers less likely to sign up for a site that they haven't heard of before

BradShaw may say content is king, but I still believe retention is king.

retain em like this http://www.dollarsinporn.com/crap.gif

Yup. That's why I really wonder about conversions for all huge affiliate programs. They have a lot to do or should be doing.

Cheers,
Matt

:1orglaugh Some people are fucking retarded. Thats like opening a habib store on the corner and selling rotted out fruit and empty candybar wrappers, then expecting people to shop there again. :1orglaugh

LOL, hit me up, i'll show you a real members area : )

matt AT jasonandalex.com

Of course, but content is a part of retention, so Brad's somewhere anyway. :)

Number1 - :1orglaugh

Cheers,
Matt

I'd like to see your member's area too. Maybe I'll get you into my run of next sites to promote. :)

Sending you an email .. hopefully you won't be mad. :)

Cheers,
Matt

Can you really wonder why Visa imposed the 1%?

It's sites like this that make our job 10 times harder. Give the surfer what he wants and he will stay, piss him off and he will plug in a video.

I have two letters in regards to this.... OC. Figure it out.

No problem Nysus, anyone can hit me up if you want to take a look : )

So.. Let's clear the air..

Yes. That is one of PornDollar's members area.

Yes. There is MILF content.

Yes. There are broken thumbs.. But the videos all work..

Since Number1Thumb didn't post the whole members area... Let me show you guys what he missed.

http://porndollar.com/images/membersarea.jpg


Our designer left, and I am on the lookout for a new one.

PornDollar has a 46% conversion rate and a equally significant retention percentage.



Now.. the point of having all content into one area vs niched..

I have taken the side of the surfer on this.

If you were to signup for a "MILF" site site.. Would you want a max of 30 episodes (like the majority of reality sites) or would you want MILF and 670 other videos of other niches?

I would be pissed if I was billed 40 bucks a month for 30 scenes.

Another point is that ALL our videos use a DRM system.

In the long run that means that all videos are played in their full length, uncut, and at 768k!


So.. the moral of the story.. Yes.. Our members area is a bit messy while we screen cap over 400 movies.


The tours / sites convert.. that is what matters..

PornDollar has paid out over 1 Million dollars to webmasters last year..

I guess we are doing something right.




- Jason

Damn PD, 46% conversion? Is that from Free to Paid or Paid to Monthly? That's killer.... :)

So that's why he can only afford to pay $25/join.