Which is more dangerous - heroin or alcohol?
 

I say heroin. Friend says alcohol. My friend says that because alcohol is both neurotoxic and hepatoxic. Says heroin is virtually non-toxic, with the only risk of use being overdose (which only generally occurs when purity is unknown, a result of heroin being illegal). Also says that Long term heroin addiction (in an evironment where the drug is legal and safe) has virtually no true health risks (besides the small possibility of OD'ing which could be prevented were Narcan widely available), whereas long time alcohol abuse will virtually always end in death or disease.

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Well I think heroin is more addictive. But I have known some practicing junkies that held some pretty important positions like a store manager, and you would never have known.

I haven't looked at the facts surrounding it, but knowing how hard alcohol is on the body I bet clean heroin is not as bad. Never tried it though. I'd want more hahaha

Heroin!

I'd rather get drunk than shoot up

Well I never woke up with my neighbors dog after a night of smack

I'd rather have a steak and fries than eat broccoli. Does that mean Steak and fries is less dangerous for your health?

yes, yes it does

heroin addiction is very strong and makes you worthless. Use few times heroin and you are done for life.

Alcohol is different. Alcoholism takes time and has several stages. You have the time and the signs to realise that you are in dangerous limits when you drink.....with heroin you don't have this opportunity.

Don't ever try heroin, not a single time. This is advise from people that died from it.

I've seen a few documentaries which have claimed this

Your friend is right.
But go with weed. :stoned

Statistically Alcohol.. Plain and simple because more people use it..

But if people used heroin like alcohol i think it'd be heroin !!

More deaths are caused by alcohol and alcohol related shit in a year than the total deaths on the beaches of normandy on d-day !!

Do the math.. 1 drink driver per million people worldwide dies every day.. it adds up..

But the thing is.. heroin addicts usually only kill themselves.. drink drivers take whoever is in the car and maybe a few pedestrians or another car if in an accident..

I lost 2 grandparents to a drink driver that slammed into them.. so im a bit biased !!


Nath

i'd say alcohol.

i'll take heron for $20, alex

take a sip of alcohol ,shit won't happen

take a snort of some heron who knows what might happen,you may wake of sick the next day...fienin'

I didnt mention health :thumbsup

Drugs are only as addictive as your personality.

No matter what, I would never touch the dirt and alcohol is the devil :feels-hot

Well, i dont know actually, i guess what other people said, it depends how you use it.

neither is good but heroin is way too scary...

Don't be such a chicken, all the cool kids are doing it.

heroin.:thumbsup

More people die as result of alocholism and alcohol related incidents than all other drugs realted deaths combined.

:glugglug

One may as well put a bullet in their head rather than getting into heroin:2 cents:

Damn. I missed that episode of "Crossing Over". Sounds like a good one.

What a stupid and meaningless statistic. That's purely because of the availability and legality of alchohol and absolutely nothing to do with which is more dangerous per se. Good grief.

urine

Actually it does.

The question is "which is more dangerous?"

And by far Alcohol is more dangerous because of it's availability.

How many kids do you know every friday night are out trying to score heroin?

Sure there are some, but it's mainly going to be alcohol they are going to score.

Now take that same group of kids and ask how they would behave with either drug.

If you took a group of 10 kids who scored some heroin they are not going to sit around for an entire night trying to see who can get higher than the other.

They either snort it, or skin pop get the nods and pass out in their room. Sure there's a chance they might die.

Now take that same group of kids after they have scored some beer etc.

Now they will sit around and see who can get more drunk than the other.

Now that they are drunk it's time to go home.

Alcohol is far more insidious than drugs like Heroin.

It's cool to get drunk...haven't you ever been to a convention?

Not too many people think it's cool to shoot smack.

Alcohol is also a gateway drug for many people.

Drug users don't die from the heroin. They die from the rough life they lead getting the money for it (prostitution, stealing, etc, etc.)

In some North European countries, they give drug users substitutes for heroin. That's a better way that having people die for stupid reasons. Those drug users then get their drugs from the state for free and lead a pretty normal life.

heroin by far

Burroughs addresses this in his book Naked Lunch in the foreword about his cure.

You must not know any alcoholics.
Yes, heroin is nasty but alcohol is just as nasy to the drunk drinking it.

Look at all the bs people get into drinking.

I prefer a more social drug........like mescaline, very easy to deal with people on mescaline.






Yeah right!.......I'd take beer over anything man, 'cept maybe coke.

a very SMART friend of mine once said...

"I'd rather have 100 people stoned/high in my house than 2 people drunk..."

not really try8n' to make any point other than what a smart friend of mine once said to me...

btw - just curious, and for the record, who happens to be drunk right now?

Heroin is more dangerous in the long term. Heroin is not non toxic, my sister is a junky and she gets sores from it. Long term addiction no health risks? Umm has your friend ever heard of AIDS? Heroin turns people into nothing but thieves and liars and basically destroys the rest of their life.

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Heroin is the direct cause of most heroin users death, taking an overdose of the shit.
You dont OD on turning tricks or stealing purses from older ladies.

they both are stupid

Heroin period!!!!! I've known people who had a £100+ a day habbit and alcoholics rarely burgle your garden shed at 3am or beat the fuck out of a 75 year old woman for a few ££££

AIDS? Hepatitis C? I guess you're not taking any of this into consideration.

Are we talking danger one's self or danger to society? Because if it's just bodily damage the social raminfications have little to do with it. In both cases, however, alchohol is more dangerous.

There's plenty of evidence to show that a managed addiction to heroin, where the product used is clinical in purity, will do little to harm your body. The problems arrise with street grade smack that is cut to shit with everything imagineable. Like another post here pointed out, there's plenty of people with managed addictions who work decent jobs and live decent lives.

Alchohol is just plain bad for you, your organs, your brain. It's social impact is just ad bad as heroin, if not worse, only in different ways. You all know what they are.

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The issues that crop up when a junkie dedicates their whole life to being an addict are the definately not cool. I live a few blocks from the worst neighborhood in Canada (possibly North America) for heroin use. They like to stumble into my neighborhood to rob from our businesses, homes and cars. I've woken to the same screams two times now at about 5 in the morning, only to find out it's some user with a police dog clamped on his leg.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1987781.stm

"Mr Brunstrom added that heroin was largely safe.

But tobacco and alcohol caused many more times the number of deaths than all illicit drugs put together.

"It is very hard to die from heroin - most people die from the impurities in the drug or from overdoses.

"The sum total of all the effort you and I put into this is to turn heroin into a commodity so expensive addicts have to commit crime after crime to feed their habits."