Anderson Silva - The Greatest UFC Fighter Ever & Best Pound For Pound Fighter In MMA
 

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So he won?

I SAID "/thread closed.."

but yes, toyed with a great fighter...




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He looked bored and made the fight look easy

GSP is the best pound for pound MMA fighter :2 cents:

He is an amazing fighter, but I really thought he would be tested in this fight.

Shame, would love to see him really tested by someone.

because that's how good he is...

the guy keeps getting better and better... :2 cents:






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i would say he is number 2..

i love GSP. but he is not as dominating as silva..

i would love to see silva drop down to 175 and GSP go up to 175 and fight...




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He is amazing, but he did get his ass beat by Sonnen pretty good. GSP has never been beat up that bad during his title defenses so it's still a toss up in my book who is the best. Silva finishes, but GSP has never been been beat up. I say it's a draw between Silva and GSP, at least for now.

I think a rematch with Sonnen or Belfort will end Silva's streak. Not sure which one, but he will probably not be able to win both.

Let's talk numbers.

Georges St Pierre in his last 10 fights, KO/Sub'd 2 of 10 fighters, and won the other 8 via Decision.

Anderson Silva in his last 10 fights, has KO/Sub'd out 8 out of 10 fighters, and won the remaining 2 via Decision.

You are wrong.

i think silva got a little lazy during that time.. he had back to back weak fights and then he started to have that fire again..

i wish the UFC would fight these guys at least 3 times a year instead of once or twice..

these guys are in their prime right now..





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BTW, props to the ref for instantly recognizing an illegal strike and interrupting the fight. Silva was being dominated there and if it weren't for illegal tactics, he would have gotten pwnt. Silva is the most overrated fighter.

Anderson Silva had a rib injury during that fight with Chael Sonnen. At the end of the fight, who tapped out? Chael did. That's what Champions do, fight to the end and win.

You are aware that this last guy, Okami was training with Chael and Team Quest right? From the damn wall and stall bullshit they use at that camp, to the half plum and uppercut shit on the cage that everyone knows they go for right off the bat.

i did not know that the crack was so good in canada these days.... :2 cents:





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Sonnen is the x factor in the pound for pound equation. Someone in Silva's weight class has his number. Nobody has yet shown that they have GSPs number.

If GSP and Silva both had to rematch their toughest opponents, the money would have to be on GSP to win his fight. That's what makes it a draw in my book at this point. If Silva rematches Sonnen and puts him away, then Silva is the best pound for pound fighter. Until then it is a draw.

BTW, Okami was not a worthy opponent for Silva, but the same can be said against a few of GSP opponents. Japanese fighters struggle at the mid level of the UFC, let alone the elite level.

edit: I posted this before I saw your rib injury post. Nobody knows the true extent of that injury so not sure how much you can factor that in. Like I said, if he rematches Sonnen and puts him away, he will be the best pound for pound fighter without question.

You talk a lot of shit, and make sweeping generalizations.

Why don't you back it up and post proof about how he's so over rated.

What do you mean x factor? Sonnen fought an injured Anderson, why is that so hard to understand? A healthy Aranha would whoop Chael's ass everywhere.

http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/201.../chael-sonnen/

If you are going to debate, the first rule is to know all the facts.




Have you just started watching MMA? Anderson has lost to Ryo Chonan via inverted Heel Hook, that was probably in every knowledgeable MMA fan's memory, his toughest opponent to date he's lost too. He would destroy Chonnan and make him look like a 6 month white belt today. And even in that fight, he was winning.

He's "cleaned out the Division", do you understand what that term means? There is nobody else to fight in the UFC.

Vitor is going to get the belt back. He has the fire back. Then we can talk if silva is the best.

Are you seriously quoting Sonnen and claiming it to be factual. The guy is a piece of shit, he has said so many crazy things, even about Lance Armstrong, among a million other things to stir trouble and make noise. Pulling a quote from that convicted criminal doesn't really prove anything. He's a borderline sociopath.

As for the toughest opponent part, I mean during both of their UFC title defense runs. You could say GSPs loss to Sera was his worst bout but GSP easily won the rematch.

Arguing the best pound for pound fighter is a somewhat abstract and intellectual debate, the numbers will never tell the whole story. But that's why there is the debate. You seem to be getting a little worked up though, just remember this is a discussion with NO absolute answer, that's why people debate it.

Right, cause Belfort has been back like 3 times already right?

I quoted Sonnen because he's the Horse's mouth. Why don't you read the rest of the article? Or better yet do your own research. Silva won and beat Sonnen with a rib injury.

You are right, I'm getting worked up on debating with casual fans who dont' have all the facts. Lose/Lose situation. Later.

Big nog beat Shaub. Everything else was just gravy.
Great to see him win :)

lol. Did we meet and that's how you came to know my level of MMA history, because I never questioned your knowledge. But then again, I don't assume people are misinformed just because they have a different opinion than I do. I guess that's why I'm not a typical MMA fan.

Oh well, it was still fun discussing the whole pound for pound issue. I think everyone can agree a fight between the two would be amazing, not sure if it will every happen though for various reason. GSPs frame just isn't built for 185 and it's sort of unfair to have any fighter change weight classes for the ultimate super fight of all time. Guys usually change weight classes to get a new start, not to face their toughest opponent of all time. I read somewhere that the difference in their walking around weight is almost 30 pounds.

I wouldn't waste my breathe if I were you, Anthony doesn't think aside from himself is allowed to have an opinion on *his* sport.

How can anyone in their right mind deny that Anderson Silva is the best? 36 years old and he makes some of the best fighters in the world look like little bitches.

My friend works with him so :thumbsup

Yeah sorry guys, I love GSP especially given that he's a Gracie Barra black belt and all, but he's not better than Silva. It's not even close.

Dana White knows what's up. The pound for pound best is easily Silva.

the spider is best hands down

Anthony = Cockbag of the year

GSP has been beat up. So has Silva. Theyre both champs. Silva > GSP Any day of the week.

would you personally present him with that trophy?

i doubt it pussy... :thumbsup






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Just realize that Anderson Silva has competed in multiple weight classes, so that alone puts him ahead of GSP.

At this current point in time, he truly is the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

Sure, this is only the internet.

Please don't argue this, but discuss it. Does anyone think we'll never truly see the full potential of GSP because he doesn't have that killer instinct? Honestly, I think he doesn't like hurting people and that holds back his ability. He fights just enough to win. A few times when his opponent trash talks he seems to get a little more violent, but he doesn't have that switch he can turn on and become a killer in the ring.

I wonder what GSP would be like if he had that violent killer instinct. BTW, this is a separate issue from the pound for pound discussion.

Either way, some of these new kids coming up will surpass both GSP and Silva. Don't forget, MMA is still a very new sport and the true elite level has not been seen yet. You still have guys who started in MMA a few years ago and they are considered contenders. Nobody could start playing football, basketball, or baseball in their mid 20's and be pro level with just a year or two of training. So that shows the sport of MMA will get so much better in the coming years.

Anderson Silva should just retire after the eventual match up with GSP since there simply isn't anyone left for him to fight.... He's cleared out his entire division. Just my 2 cents anyways

I got pulled back into this thread with it hitting top again. I highlighted why it's a waste to argue this point with you in this thread.

You aren't misinformed, you are ignorant, big difference.

GSP walks around at 195 to 200lbs. Anderson walks around 210lbs to 225lbs.

I won't be holding my breath.

You just astound me. GSP without killer's instinct. You know he's the Champ, right?

GSP is arguably the first true MMA fighter. Great in every range, standing, clinch, and ground. And it's shown with him holding the belt at an early age, and keeping it. The best MMA prospects will be coming from College Wrestling Programs, and from TRUE MMA gyms.

You want someone to watch, watch this kid:
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Rory-MacDonald-14018

He's a team mate of GSP. Future UFC Champ.

Seriously, you need to relax..lol :1orglaugh

Yah, I can't wait for Vitor to fight Anderson again, cause he did so much damage to Silva.

http://www.abload.de/img/silva_belfort23og6.gif

/sarcasm