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Anthony 09-01-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 18397463)
Seriously, you need to relax..lol :1orglaugh

I am perfectly relaxed, waiting to go bike 2 miles to train BJJ. You must have me mistaken for some some fat fuck behind a keyboard who's never trained or fought before. I've been a fan since 1993, when the majority of you still watched WWF and thought it was real.

Anthony 09-01-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18397432)
Anderson Silva should just retire after the eventual match up with GSP since there simply isn't anyone left for him to fight.... He's cleared out his entire division. Just my 2 cents anyways

Sure, I make that same point, but I'm a cock bag.

Of course, I did call people names, and say they were ignorant and shit. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Market Smart always gets me into trouble with these threads. :thumbsup:thumbsup

mynameisjim 09-01-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18397469)
I am perfectly relaxed, waiting to go bike 2 miles to train BJJ. You must have me mistaken for some some fat fuck behind a keyboard who's never trained or fought before. I've been a fan since 1993, when the majority of you still watched WWF and thought it was real.

Yes, you are right. Nobody on Earth could possibly match your encyclopedic knowledge of MMA. The rest of us all believe that Hulk Hogan is the greatest fighter of all time.

I think you argue just for the sake of arguing. I said the difference in walking around weight between GSP and Silva is ALMOST 30 pounds. Then you call me ignorant and say the difference can be between 195 - 225. WTF? That looks a lot like almost 30 pounds to me.

Everything I posted in this thread is pretty mainstream and you can see the same things written by sports writers who have been following MMA for decades. You may not agree with some of my opinions, but they are not ignorant or misinformed.

chaze 09-01-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 18384494)
/thread closed...








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And the biggest douche bag in fighting history all packaged up with cute frilly bows.

nextri 09-01-2011 02:59 PM

Silva vs Jon Jones would be a good matchup. Had they been in the same weight class.

Anthony 09-01-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 18397498)
Yes, you are right. Nobody on Earth could possibly match your encyclopedic knowledge of MMA. The rest of us all believe that Hulk Hogan is the greatest fighter of all time.

I think you argue just for the sake of arguing. I said the difference in walking around weight between GSP and Silva is ALMOST 30 pounds. Then you call me ignorant and say the difference can be between 195 - 225. WTF? That looks a lot like almost 30 pounds to me.

Do you understand what best "pound for pound", means? You argue GSP is the greatest P4P, yet throw up a 30lbs weight difference in your post. What exactly is your point? Either he is, or he isn't.

P4P was created because you can't have a Mike Tyson and a Sugar Ray Robinson fight to show who is the better fighter. And you can say the same thing about GSP and Aranha. The body composition alone gives Aranha the upper hand, longer limbs, better leverage, etc. The only reason why DFW wants this is because there is literally no one left for Anderson.


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Everything I posted in this thread is pretty mainstream and you can see the same things written by sports writers who have been following MMA for decades. You may not agree with some of my opinions, but they are not ignorant or misinformed.
Actually you'd be wrong on the sports writers following this for decades, as this sport isn't even 2 decades old. Hell by best estimates, modern MMA is between 10 to 15 years old. And if you can't supply any other argument on your own merits without having to quote a website, then I fall back to my earlier post, debating out of ignorance.

Paul 09-01-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18397460)
You just astound me. GSP without killer's instinct. You know he's the Champ, right?

GSP is arguably the first true MMA fighter. Great in every range, standing, clinch, and ground. And it's shown with him holding the belt at an early age, and keeping it. The best MMA prospects will be coming from College Wrestling Programs, and from TRUE MMA gyms.

You want someone to watch, watch this kid:
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Rory-MacDonald-14018

He's a team mate of GSP. Future UFC Champ.

Rory MacDonald is exciting to watch for sure, totally agree :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by nextri (Post 18397515)
Silva vs Jon Jones would be a good matchup. Had they been in the same weight class.

That would be interesting! :pimp

Is there any chance Silva would move up to light heavyweight guys?

I'd love to see him fight against some of the light heavyweights, I think it would make for some really interesting fights considering he's cleaned up the middleweight division.

mynameisjim 09-01-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18397547)
Do you understand what best "pound for pound", means? You argue GSP is the greatest P4P, yet throw up a 30lbs weight difference in your post. What exactly is your point? Either he is, or he isn't.

P4P was created because you can't have a Mike Tyson and a Sugar Ray Robinson fight to show who is the better fighter. And you can say the same thing about GSP and Aranha. The body composition alone gives Aranha the upper hand, longer limbs, better leverage, etc. The only reason why DFW wants this is because there is literally no one left for Anderson.




Actually you'd be wrong on the sports writers following this for decades, as this sport isn't even 2 decades old. Hell by best estimates, modern MMA is between 10 to 15 years old. And if you can't supply any other argument on your own merits without having to quote a website, then I fall back to my earlier post, debating out of ignorance.

I see, you just have problems reading, that's cool.

I never used the 30 pounds as an excuse for the pound for pound argument, I said that it was a factor in GSP accepting a fight with Silva. Go back and read my posts.

While you're going back and reading my posts, notice that I also didn't argue that Silva may not be the best pound for pound fighter. I said that there is an argument to be made for GSP and until Silva rematches Sonnen, there is a sliver of an opening for GSP. If Silva beats Sonnen, he is the best pound for pound fighter of all time without questions. But by your responses so far, that may be a little too nuanced for you to understand.

But yes, I hang around enough people to realize that every guy that trains BJJ in a strip mall storefront assumes he's the foremost expert on all things MMA. Tell you what, you want to be the foremost expert on MMA, go ahead. Anybody taking the time to read this thread can see what I'm saying and it's not that far fetched at all. They will also see that I never once claimed that I was right or that GSP was the best, I simply put forth an argument as to why GSP should still be considered. Personally, I enjoy watching Silva fight more than GSP. I guess you could say I'm a fan of how Silva fights and fan of the way GSP trains.

Anyway, I got into this thread to talk MMA, not argue with you about your expertise or my "ignorance" as you call it. So I'm done here, if you want to make another post and get the last word in, go ahead if it means that much to you to be the "expert".

zuffa 09-01-2011 09:06 PM

This has been an entertaining read :thumbsup

WarChild 09-01-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Coatsy (Post 18398354)
Rory MacDonald is exciting to watch for sure, totally agree :thumbsup



That would be interesting! :pimp

Is there any chance Silva would move up to light heavyweight guys?

I'd love to see him fight against some of the light heavyweights, I think it would make for some really interesting fights considering he's cleaned up the middleweight division.

I believe he already has fought at Light Heavyweight where he knocked the fuck out of Forrest Griffin in the first round lickidy split.

Zarathustra 09-01-2011 09:58 PM

Greatest UFC fighter ever? Yes.

Greatest MMA fighter ever? Not by a longshot

Paul 09-01-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18398465)
I believe he already has fought at Light Heavyweight where he knocked the fuck out of Forrest Griffin in the first round lickidy split.

Yeah he knocked Forest out with what looked like a jab, it was insane!

I thought Forrest cut to middleweight for that fight?

WarChild 09-01-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coatsy (Post 18398486)
Yeah he knocked Forest out with what looked like a jab, it was insane!

I thought Forrest cut to middleweight for that fight?

No I'm pretty suie it was light heavy.

Jim_Gunn 09-01-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra (Post 18398472)
Greatest UFC fighter ever? Yes.

Greatest MMA fighter ever? Not by a longshot

Who was better that didn't fight in the UFC in your opinion?

Jim_Gunn 09-01-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18398487)
No I'm pretty suie it was light heavy.

Of course it was. No way Forrest could cut to Middleweight and be competitive. Silva also knocked out James Irvin at Light Heavyweight as well.

Zarathustra 09-01-2011 10:32 PM

Well obviously Fedor, there is not much of anyone else.

Fedor never lost to 3 cans like Anderson Silva did. He beat the #1 fighter in the world in any weight class twice - Nog, he was undefeated for 10 years, every single one of his opponents were bigger than him except 2, the guy had like a 30 fight win streak...it's really not close at all

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 18398490)
Who was better that didn't fight in the UFC in your opinion?


Paul 09-01-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18398487)
No I'm pretty suie it was light heavy.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 18398492)
Of course it was. No way Forrest could cut to Middleweight and be competitive. Silva also knocked out James Irvin at Light Heavyweight as well.

Ah right cool, thanks for the confirmation :pimp

dynastoned 09-01-2011 11:52 PM

in my opinion Silva is the better fighter between him and GSP and Silva is the best pound for pound in MMA today.

this is the way i look at it. silva goes out there and not only does he dominate he puts himself in danger to finish fights. GSP on the other hand will get a lead in the fight. then coast until the end with takedowns and holding dominate positions but wont put himself out there to finish a guy off. hes boring from a fans perspective. if he has all that talent and thinks hes the best then why wont he put these guys away?

GSP is like the floyd mayweather jr of MMA. he goes in there racks up some points on the judges scorecards and raises his hand at the end of the fight. it's just annoying how he fights like hes trying to win on a scorecard instead of fighting to beat the other man up any way possible. i understand it's a sport but hey it's also a fucking fight. so go out there and finish your opponent thats what fans pay for.

fuck for all i know some of you guys like his save the whales type of fighting style. i just think it's fucking boring.

dynastoned 09-02-2011 12:16 AM

hopefully nick diaz can talk enough shit in the middle of the octagon in october to get GSP to come out of his shell. it's a good match up in my opinion. they both have such a big contrast in styles. GSP is an explosive quick fighter and nick diaz is a methodical slow punisher that wears down his opponents. so i hope diaz has been working on his sprawls because i don't want GSP to turn it into another gay dominant position "challenger didn't do enough to win decision" type of fight.

nextri 09-02-2011 01:27 AM

I'm looking forward to GSP vs Diaz.
Out of the two though, i find Diaz has been more entertaining to watch. Plus he looks kinda retarded when he talks.

dynastoned 09-02-2011 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nextri (Post 18398651)
I'm looking forward to GSP vs Diaz.
Out of the two though, i find Diaz has been more entertaining to watch. Plus he looks kinda retarded when he talks.

that happens when they keep matching you up with strikers and you have to eat some big shots. start sounding like a 40 year old seasoned boxer.

Paul 09-02-2011 02:40 AM

I'd like to see Jon Jones Vs Rashad Evans, that'll be an interesting fight.

Shey 09-02-2011 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18384513)
Let's talk numbers.

Georges St Pierre in his last 10 fights, KO/Sub'd 2 of 10 fighters, and won the other 8 via Decision.

Anderson Silva in his last 10 fights, has KO/Sub'd out 8 out of 10 fighters, and won the remaining 2 via Decision.

You are wrong.

wrong or not, GSP is still hotter!

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