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Paul Markham · 11-17-2015, 03:58 AM

They love to blame us. Ignoring the real truth that the only reason for the Wars in the ME, is the people now fighting in the ME. Whatever the West has done, has had no real effect other than propaganda.

The region has been fighting among itself for 1,000s of years over the control of land. Read the bible for how it glories genocide. Before then there were other Empires looking to impose their rule on any land that couldn't fight back.

Recent History we have the Ottoman Empire. Muslim Turks imposing a very strict regime on the entire area.

The recent wars in the Balkans is a direct result of the Ottomans invading the region and imposing Islam on the region.

After WW1 the break up of the region still brought problems over land. War lords and tribes were unable to sit around a table and decide on a referendum to cede lands to local people. The Kurds are still fighting for their own land. As are others.

The invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq didn't cause the terrorism. Prior to that the US had teamed up Israel and Egypt to supply the Afghan Jihadists with the weapons to fight and throw out the Russians. without those weapons Al Qaeda would have never been created.

Afterwards Islamist blamed the US for not doing more. And decided the whole thing was the fault of the people who helped them. So carried out many mass killings, Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks, 9/11 was the straw that broke the camels back and the two wars were the result.

Iraq had invaded Kuwait and Iran, gassed and bombed it's own people. Long before the invasion by the US. Afghanistan and Iraq had decent leaders for the areas imposed on them. The people rather than getting around a table or having an election, picked up guns and started killing.

Not even poverty can be blamed. Weapons aren't cheap and many rich Muslims are funding the wars by buying arms to kill Muslims rather than buying food, building hospitals, schools, roads, etc.

Second Generation Muslims in the West are becoming Terrorists, many are from well off families and well educated. And rather than go to live in a Muslim country, they decide to impose their values on us. sometimes using terror.

Islam and the ME is where we Europeans were a 1,000 or more years ago. It took King Alfred to form a loose knit Kingdom. The last Civil war in Britain was the Jacobite rising of 1715. 300 years ago, because one lot of War Lords decided they would be better off if they were in charge and convinced the people to go to war.

Today we do it through the ballot box. Maybe in 300 years Islam might start to think this is a better process.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-17-2015, 04:47 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutro..._denial_weapon
neutron bomb#Use as an area denial weapon
Got the balls to use a few?

Paul Markham · 11-17-2015, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutro..._denial_weapon
neutron bomb#Use as an area denial weapon
Got the balls to use a few?

A little bit over the top. The problem the West has is we've become soft, whereas our predecessors had no problem going in and wiping out anyone who might come back and rebel again.

"Bomber" Harris was praised for his relentless bombing of German Civilians. Today everyone is worried about civilian casualties. So terrorists hide themselves among civilians.

dyna mo · 11-17-2015, 09:40 AM

you're suggesting the west regresses back to barbarians to stamp out barbarians.

Paul Markham · 11-17-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you're suggesting the west regresses back to barbarians to stamp out barbarians.

I'm actually suggesting we let and assist ME barbarians, control ME barbarians.

Arming everyone doesn't work, sitting down and talking is pointless, economic sanctions won't stop the money flowing.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-17-2015, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you're suggesting the west regresses back to barbarians to stamp out barbarians.

For lack of a better resolution, unfortunately Yes.

Sarn · 11-17-2015, 05:03 PM

Paul Markham · 11-17-2015, 11:26 PM

The mastermind of the Paris attacks was known to the security forces, he has a history of fighting for ISIS. Assad and ISIS would have eliminated him. The French were only able to monitor him.

The Liberal Agenda cost was, 130 lives. And rising. That's just this time, how many more atrocities were carried out by suspects know to the security forces?

In the UK there's a big debate about allowing people who went to join ISIS, back into the country. So they can educate people how bad it is. As if no one knows how bad it is.

11-17-2015, 03:58 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Islamists and Liberal lies. They love to blame us. Ignoring the real truth that the only reason for the Wars in the ME, is the people now fighting in the ME. Whatever the West has done, has had no real effect other than propaganda. The region has been fighting among itself for 1,000s of years over the control of land. Read the bible for how it glories genocide. Before then there were other Empires looking to impose their rule on any land that couldn't fight back. Recent History we have the Ottoman Empire. Muslim Turks imposing a very strict regime on the entire area. The recent wars in the Balkans is a direct result of the Ottomans invading the region and imposing Islam on the region. After WW1 the break up of the region still brought problems over land. War lords and tribes were unable to sit around a table and decide on a referendum to cede lands to local people. The Kurds are still fighting for their own land. As are others. The invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq didn't cause the terrorism. Prior to that the US had teamed up Israel and Egypt to supply the Afghan Jihadists with the weapons to fight and throw out the Russians. without those weapons Al Qaeda would have never been created. Afterwards Islamist blamed the US for not doing more. And decided the whole thing was the fault of the people who helped them. So carried out many mass killings, Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks, 9/11 was the straw that broke the camels back and the two wars were the result. Iraq had invaded Kuwait and Iran, gassed and bombed it's own people. Long before the invasion by the US. Afghanistan and Iraq had decent leaders for the areas imposed on them. The people rather than getting around a table or having an election, picked up guns and started killing. Not even poverty can be blamed. Weapons aren't cheap and many rich Muslims are funding the wars by buying arms to kill Muslims rather than buying food, building hospitals, schools, roads, etc. Second Generation Muslims in the West are becoming Terrorists, many are from well off families and well educated. And rather than go to live in a Muslim country, they decide to impose their values on us. sometimes using terror. Islam and the ME is where we Europeans were a 1,000 or more years ago. It took King Alfred to form a loose knit Kingdom. The last Civil war in Britain was the Jacobite rising of 1715. 300 years ago, because one lot of War Lords decided they would be better off if they were in charge and convinced the people to go to war. Today we do it through the ballot box. Maybe in 300 years Islam might start to think this is a better process. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

11-17-2015, 11:26 PM	#8
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The mastermind of the Paris attacks was known to the security forces, he has a history of fighting for ISIS. Assad and ISIS would have eliminated him. The French were only able to monitor him. The Liberal Agenda cost was, 130 lives. And rising. That's just this time, how many more atrocities were carried out by suspects know to the security forces? In the UK there's a big debate about allowing people who went to join ISIS, back into the country. So they can educate people how bad it is. As if no one knows how bad it is. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

11-17-2015, 04:47 AM	#2
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutro..._denial_weapon neutron bomb#Use as an area denial weapon Got the balls to use a few?

11-17-2015, 09:40 AM	#4
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,228	you're suggesting the west regresses back to barbarians to stamp out barbarians.

11-17-2015, 05:03 PM	#7
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