How the Red Cross Raised Half A Billion Dollars For Haiti And Built 6 Homes - GoFuckYourself.com

Mutt · 06-04-2015, 03:55 AM

what a travesty, from reading the article there are some reasons, number 1 being that Haiti is a shithole of failure, which makes helping them out difficult but come on - $500 Million dollars of donations and almost none of it benefited the people the money was given to help.

https://www.propublica.org/article/h...built-6-homes#

BlackCrayon · 06-04-2015, 04:27 AM

most charities are so full of red tape most people would be better off donating to people in need themselves.

kane · 06-04-2015, 04:32 AM

Looks like an interesting read. Thanks for the link.

MiamiBoyz · 06-04-2015, 05:10 AM

And then charities wonder why people don't give money when most are clearly scams like this.

No profit...whatever, any business can be "non-profit" if you spend enough money on operating expenses and salaries and have nothing left over for the actual reason of the charity...they get busted doing that all the time.

It's a disgrace an criminal really and to use those tear jerker methods of marketing to guilt people into giving!

Shame on them!

crockett · 06-04-2015, 05:36 AM

How the fuck could that even happen? The entire population of Hatti is 10 million.. They could of just handed every Haitian a million bucks and still had 490 million left over...

They need to be doing a investigation on the Red Cross. If a sporting group like Fifa is fair game, then so should the Red Cross.

It's long past time that these charities get a free pass and aren't held accountable for the donations they receive.

L-Pink · 06-04-2015, 05:40 AM

^^^^^ what crockett said.

PR_Glen · 06-04-2015, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

How the fuck could that even happen? The entire population of Hatti is 10 million.. They could of just handed every Haitian a million bucks and still had 490 million left over...

your math is broken...

blackmonsters · 06-04-2015, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

^^^^^ what crockett said.

Check the math bro.

blackmonsters · 06-04-2015, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

How the fuck could that even happen? The entire population of Hatti is 10 million.. They could of just handed every Haitian a million bucks and still had 490 million left over...

They need to be doing a investigation on the Red Cross. If a sporting group like Fifa is fair game, then so should the Red Cross.

It's long past time that these charities get a free pass and aren't held accountable for the donations they receive.

Each Haitian could have gotten $50 with nothing left over.

robwod · 06-04-2015, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

your math is broken...

Heh, I was just going to post that and saw you already did.

It'd be a neat trick, though, turning a $50 cheque per person into 1 million

crockett · 06-04-2015, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

your math is broken...

Yes see what happens when I wake up too early.. They would have still been better off with the cash directly than giving it to the Red Cross to squander away on administration costs.

kazbalah · 06-04-2015, 07:00 AM

I have worked for charities before. Usually 50% goes to the company who is out sourced to collect the funds. Then at least another 10-20% on admin fees.

Its a shame but really small amounts end up going to the cause.

L-Pink · 06-04-2015, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Check the math bro.

The only time i agree with him and of course he's wrong,

crockett · 06-04-2015, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The only time i agree with him and of course he's wrong,

That shows your bad judgment..

L-Pink · 06-04-2015, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

That shows your bad judgment..

Touche

PR_Glen · 06-04-2015, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Yes see what happens when I wake up too early.. They would have still been better off with the cash directly than giving it to the Red Cross to squander away on administration costs.

No man they wouldn't. That's 50 bucks.. You can't get your rebuild on with 50 dollars!

crockett · 06-04-2015, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

No man they wouldn't. That's 50 bucks.. You can't get your rebuild on with 50 dollars!

Did you see the tents they live in? $50 would be better than the nothing they have now,

baddog · 06-04-2015, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The only time i agree with him and of course he's wrong,

it's crockett science

seeandsee · 06-04-2015, 09:06 AM

Build them fuckign homes scambugs

SilentKnight · 06-05-2015, 04:30 PM

My question - why isn't mainstream western media reporting on this travesty?

I read both our local and national newspapers on a daily basis and haven't seen anything about this mentioned.

Nothing the Red Cross does anymore surprises me. But it's sad that the media aren't highlighting this to everyone and making the RC accountantable in a public way.

kane · 06-05-2015, 04:43 PM

I think the Red Cross has been doing this kind of stuff for a while. My understanding is that most of what they raise actually eventually gets spent on helping people, but in the fine print it says that when they raise money it is for their general fund and they will spend it as they see fit.

In this particular case the Red Cross came out today and said that they never promised to build houses for people, but they promised to provide housing. They claimed that because of corruption they were not able to buy land to build houses so they put people in temporary housing and helped build shelters etc while they look for a long term solution.

I personally think the Red Cross does a lot of good, but to me this one looks like a situation where people thought they were getting one thing when they gave money only find out later they were getting something else.

Far-L · 06-05-2015, 05:19 PM

The Vice piece on HBO was crazy.

Having been to Haiti I can definitely say that $50 bucks in the hand of each average Haitian, certainly not including the politicos raping the country, would go very surprisingly far.

L-Pink · 06-05-2015, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

Build them fuckign homes scambugs

I see what you did there

Hentaikid · 06-06-2015, 11:19 AM

To be fair they were very nice houses

brassmonkey · 06-06-2015, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The only time i agree with him and of course he's wrong,

Dvae · 06-06-2015, 07:32 PM

Just another reason not to donate to this organization.

and the fact the the President and CEO gets paid 1mil+ per yr

American Red Cross: The information presented above is outdated (as of October 2010), as Marsha J. Evans resigned her position as CEO of the American Red Cross in 2005. The current President and CEO of the American Red Cross (since 2008) is Gail J. McGovern, whose total yearly compensation for 2010 was about $1,037,000 (considerably higher than the $651,957 figure mentioned above) and for 2011 was about $561,000. Charity Navigator and Forbes both rate this organization's efficiency at 92%, much higher than the 39% figure claimed in the e-mail.
Read more at snopes.com: Executive Salaries in Charities

RandyRandy · 06-06-2015, 11:06 PM

Red Cross, Unicef - I read a while back that if the stars are all aligned, 10 cents on every dollar collected actually goes where it should. I pick my spots on charity, but it always goes directly to the person, almost always a person in the street.

Gotta say, almost no beggars in Kuala Lumpur. I guess they must kill them all here, or they don't allow them in the more affluent neighborhoods.

adultchatpay · 06-06-2015, 11:08 PM

There goes the funds.

Mr Pheer · 06-07-2015, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Check the math bro.

Zeros are a motherfucker.

Mr Pheer · 06-07-2015, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Check the math bro.

Zeros are a motherfucker.

It's as sad as the time someone posted a video about cops in Louisiana arresting a homeless guy and Crockett said look at those typical Texas dick cops being dicks.

pimpmaster9000 · 06-07-2015, 03:54 AM

let me single out "US AID" as the most corrupt piece of shit I have ever had the misfortune to see in work...it is basically a fund for bribing local politicians and giving concessions to the new american business partners, it is corruption in its purest form and every single project they do has one goal: lining the pockets of the US aid workers and their american buddies and a few local politicians...

in fact the word US and Aid do not belong in the same sentence...

Mr Pheer · 06-07-2015, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

let me single out "US AID" as the most corrupt piece of shit I have ever had the misfortune to see in work...it is basically a fund for bribing local politicians and giving concessions to the new american business partners, it is corruption in its purest form and every single project they do has one goal: lining the pockets of the US aid workers and their american buddies and a few local politicians...

in fact the word US and Aid do not belong in the same sentence...

You're stil mad because when I was in the US Army, we aided all over your country. Everytime I look at my 10th Mountain Division patch I think of aiding the fuck out of you.

Mr Pheer · 06-07-2015, 04:01 AM

I want to aid the shit out of you right now.

gebu · 06-07-2015, 07:17 AM

These six homes?

https://static.propublica.org/projec...600-995ca1.jpg

_Richard_ · 06-08-2015, 01:50 AM

Red Cross is money printing and intelligence

pimpmaster9000 · 06-08-2015, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

You're stil mad because when I was in the US Army, we aided all over your country. Everytime I look at my 10th Mountain Division patch I think of aiding the fuck out of you.

the "aid" did more damage than the bombs...you can take comfort in the fact that we recovered from the terrorism quick but the "democracy" that came after it has got us all on our knees...we actually miss the US army for real

brassmonkey · 06-08-2015, 03:53 PM

i want work there

i think creflo dollar is there

JIBCONTENT · 06-08-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

it's crockett science

sandman! · 06-08-2015, 04:04 PM

crockett · 06-08-2015, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Zeros are a motherfucker.

It's as sad as the time someone posted a video about cops in Louisiana arresting a homeless guy and Crockett said look at those typical Texas dick cops being dicks.

Please don't be so gullible.. Yes I screwed the pooch in this topic, but the other was a troll. I mean really..

mineistaken · 06-08-2015, 05:13 PM

That is why charities is mostly for people to feel better about themselves, or show off (public pressure for bigshots to donate etc, like it is a mandatory).
If you rally want to give do that directly, as simple as help out some poor family in your neighborhood.

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	How the Red Cross Raised Half A Billion Dollars For Haiti And Built 6 Homes what a travesty, from reading the article there are some reasons, number 1 being that Haiti is a shithole of failure, which makes helping them out difficult but come on - $500 Million dollars of donations and almost none of it benefited the people the money was given to help. https://www.propublica.org/article/h...built-6-homes# __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Looks like an interesting read. Thanks for the link.

06-04-2015, 05:10 AM	#4
MiamiBoyz fgfdftre6 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In the closet with your dad! Posts: 6,690	And then charities wonder why people don't give money when most are clearly scams like this. No profit...whatever, any business can be "non-profit" if you spend enough money on operating expenses and salaries and have nothing left over for the actual reason of the charity...they get busted doing that all the time. It's a disgrace an criminal really and to use those tear jerker methods of marketing to guilt people into giving! Shame on them!

06-04-2015, 05:36 AM	#5
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	How the fuck could that even happen? The entire population of Hatti is 10 million.. They could of just handed every Haitian a million bucks and still had 490 million left over... They need to be doing a investigation on the Red Cross. If a sporting group like Fifa is fair game, then so should the Red Cross. It's long past time that these charities get a free pass and aren't held accountable for the donations they receive.

06-04-2015, 05:40 AM	#6
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	^^^^^ what crockett said.

06-05-2015, 04:30 PM	#20
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	My question - why isn't mainstream western media reporting on this travesty? I read both our local and national newspapers on a daily basis and haven't seen anything about this mentioned. Nothing the Red Cross does anymore surprises me. But it's sad that the media aren't highlighting this to everyone and making the RC accountantable in a public way.

06-05-2015, 04:43 PM	#21
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I think the Red Cross has been doing this kind of stuff for a while. My understanding is that most of what they raise actually eventually gets spent on helping people, but in the fine print it says that when they raise money it is for their general fund and they will spend it as they see fit. In this particular case the Red Cross came out today and said that they never promised to build houses for people, but they promised to provide housing. They claimed that because of corruption they were not able to buy land to build houses so they put people in temporary housing and helped build shelters etc while they look for a long term solution. I personally think the Red Cross does a lot of good, but to me this one looks like a situation where people thought they were getting one thing when they gave money only find out later they were getting something else.

06-06-2015, 11:19 AM	#24
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	To be fair they were very nice houses

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Dvae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: US Posts: 5,326	Just another reason not to donate to this organization. and the fact the the President and CEO gets paid 1mil+ per yr American Red Cross: The information presented above is outdated (as of October 2010), as Marsha J. Evans resigned her position as CEO of the American Red Cross in 2005. The current President and CEO of the American Red Cross (since 2008) is Gail J. McGovern, whose total yearly compensation for 2010 was about $1,037,000 (considerably higher than the $651,957 figure mentioned above) and for 2011 was about $561,000. Charity Navigator and Forbes both rate this organization's efficiency at 92%, much higher than the 39% figure claimed in the e-mail. Read more at snopes.com: Executive Salaries in Charities __________________ . . Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

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RandyRandy Clips still sell! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Crown Heights, Brooklyn Posts: 1,708	Red Cross, Unicef - I read a while back that if the stars are all aligned, 10 cents on every dollar collected actually goes where it should. I pick my spots on charity, but it always goes directly to the person, almost always a person in the street. Gotta say, almost no beggars in Kuala Lumpur. I guess they must kill them all here, or they don't allow them in the more affluent neighborhoods.

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adultchatpay Let's Make Money Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,784	There goes the funds.

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mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	That is why charities is mostly for people to feel better about themselves, or show off (public pressure for bigshots to donate etc, like it is a mandatory). If you rally want to give do that directly, as simple as help out some poor family in your neighborhood.