I'm glad to see this. Be good to get back to the business of doing business.

Thanks Eric! there has been alot of random people around :(

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Doin' the Happy Dance...

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Very happy about this, hope this will attract some new business peeps to the boards

a lot of work but it would work..........

I am glad you brought this up. So let me clarify one thing.

Just because someone doesn't share the same opinion that you have on things such as Tubes, Piracy, Free Content, etc. This does not make them a Surfer, Pirate, etc.

If you plan to report someone as a surfer, you better have your shit in order as to why you are claiming them to be so.

I am going to outsource it to you... That should scare enough people!

just charge $9.95 a month to access gfy - who cannot afford that shouldnt be here anyways

LMAO that would be awesome!!

Yet I totally agree - what has hurt the industry in boards is the onslaught of surfers who post and harass others - bullying. We're here to have fun and to do business - which has become more difficult when you're getting surfers alike who only want to create problems and bully because they feel they can do it here.

Good luck Eric and feel free to hit me up if I can help in any way

Perhaps make it cost $250 to accuse someone of being a surfer. If proven to be a adult webmaster prior to the accusation $100 goes to the wrongly accused and $150 stays with GFY as a fee. The accuser loses the $250. If the person is found to be a surfer after all, then all monies are returned to the accuser and the accused is banned. Just a humble suggestion. :2 cents:

Free to join, $9.95 to post. :2 cents:

Gets my vote. Oh wait, that might not work in my favour...

Good call Eric.

That would be an interesting marketing study.

For those that post here - how many actually pay for porn vs. just come here to complain and grab free pics/movies off the threads and get links to free tube sites

thank god. way too many surfers here. Agent88 and Machete_ while they sit on this site 24/7 and bump threads they ruin it by trolling people and having nothing to contribute ever, except harassment.


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lay the ban hammer down.



Would be nice if "donation" or "charity" threads were approved before being posted too.

Shit. I'm going to have to ask my boss at the pizza shop for a raise. :winkwink:

would never work. you couldn't get 100 people to pay that every month, and then when only 100 people are posting those people would stop paying it. He would lose all banner ad and skinning revenue.

If it was a 1 time charge, the trolls would still pay it. While they don't make any money they can still afford to spend $10. So it wouldn't solve much.

how about if you are an asshole 24/7 and don't contribute anything and no one can vouch for who you are (no one) meaning you do business with no one, no designers, programmers, traffic people, affiliate programs, etc... no one can say "hey i know him or did business with him" and you can't prove to eric you in the industry then you get booted. You can't check everyone but who cares about the people who contribute or don't cause problems, its the asshole trolls in every thread that stay anonymous and talk shit to everyone who cause the most trouble and likely not in the industry.

Well knowing Eric as I have for many years - I am sure we can start by simply ignoring new email address's that aren't associated with the adult industry such as hotmail / gmail etc.

Secondly to have a closer look at sig's and those who post without them. Simply put if you don't have one now - there is a strong (not 100%) chance you're not in the industry. Here you can be temporarily held from posting until such time you can prove you're actually working in the industry.

There are a great many ways to verify which I know Eric and his team are creative and thorough to make sure anyone who gets removed will be in fact a surfer.

you wouldn't pay to post in a thread called "why does my dog lick his balls all the time" but when the thread is about something you want to sell i'm sure you will pay. i'd still make it monthly $9.95 to access the board in total. and when a troll is so desperate to pay 10 bucks to troll so let him...

As of right now I don't do business with anyone here, so I'd have no designers, programmers, affiliates, traffic people, etc. to vouch for me. Though I have bought content from Stefan in the past. :thumbsup

Yes!!!! Awesome!!! Crack down on the fake nicks used for trolling too.:thumbsup

i'd pay $9.95 one time, but so will trolls, it wouldn't change much. This is 24/7 entertainment for a lot of trolls. $9.95 one time fee is a lot of bang for their buck for the entertainment they get here fucking with people. Monthly fee would weed out the trolls, but you would lose too many real people too. Some people here don't make much money but do have a lot of good stuff to contribute and they not going to shell out $100+ a year just to contribute here, they will go to another board that is free and doesn't have a problem with trolls and surfers.

And in all honesty its the people who post here and contribute and help others are the last ones that ever should have to pay anything. It's those people that make the site have value, keeps the people coming back and keeps the advertising dollars flowing.

fucking LOL'd

so if you're not a sigwhore, you're not in the biz?

do you realize there are people who can earn money without anyone's help ad they simply dont need to whore anything in the sig?


on the contrary, i'd say if you have a sig chances are you're a nobody

You know what I constantly find amazing about this place?

This board is for the Adult "industry" (and use that word loosely because what it that really is, for the most part, is a select few of very smart individuals and a large group of social misfits riding on their coat tails and high fiving each other over cheap hookers at "conventions".). The Adult industry as we know it only exists in the United States becausse it is protected free speech. So here's the kicker then, a group of people that rely on being able to express themselves even if others are offended, want to run off the people that say things they don't like.

For instance, what has Gideon Gallery actually done to HARM Robbie's business other than to raise our dear little rockstar's blood pressure? Poor Robbie doesn't like what he has to say though, so better get rid of him all together!

Some of you are such amazing hypocrits it's sad. What's sadder still is you don't even see it. What's perhaps the saddest of all is that even after I took 2 minutes out of my precious life to point it out to you, you're still not going to get it.

If only people would use a bit of common sense they would have lasted as long as many of us here on GFY :) Well some would probably prefer if we hadn't.

then you do have someone to vouch for you.

here is a honest question then, if you are currently doing no business in this industry why are you here?

What pisses me off the most, and the ignore function is nice but you still get to see posts when others quote them, is the anonymous fake nick assholes. They might be in the industry but they make new accounts and act like assholes and don't stand behind what they say. They are coward little punk ass bitches. Fake nicks should be exposed for who they really are on the spot. I am sure Eric can catch most of them and exposing them here would be a good way to help keep it in check.

Understood but there probably needs to be a balance. I mean in theory couldn't 1,000 surfers join GFY right now and turn it into the next PornBB where rapidshare links to pirated content are posted? It's an industry forum not a surfer forum.

Yeah me too.

good post, there is nothing wrong with constructive counter view points.

I don't have a sig. A few people don't. It's not a measure.

funny you would post in this thread. The guy ebus_dk claimed he sold his account to.

So who are you again, can you name a few people here you have done business with and they can confirm it ? I'd bet money you have or had several other accounts here in the past, Why don't you stop being a little pussy ass troll and share with everyone who you really are.

If eric prefers people like you on here vs people like me who, may not be liked by everyone but i actually contribute then so be it. But it is anonymous assholes like you that make me post here less.

Free email address are already banned from registering, have been for almost 3 years.

Sig doesn't mean shit. I know several MAJOR players in the industry that post here and don't have anything in their sig.

Sadly, a lot of what we do has to be reactionary due to the fact that we want to allow as many people as possible into the board with the hopes that they are part of the industry and will make our advertisers happy, as well as making those who do business here happy from a networking and business stand point.

For those that are clearly surfers this will be easy to take care of, for those that are on the border, it will be tough. In the end if you want to play here and do business, (which is one of the major reasons we should all be here) then you may have to deal with this and work with the mods to prove who you are.

If I were someone who didn't post much, but did a nice chunk of business here, I would have zero problem if I was asked to prove who I was and what I do.

Who are the active mods now?

Sure I agree there has to be a balance. It does seem a little short-sighted to want to exclude anyone that doesn't work full time in the Adult Industry. I mean, if you're marketing directly to consumers and not b2b, wouldn't you want to have at least SOME representation of your target demoraphic available as a resource? Sure, if someone's just here to cause shit period, get rid of them. However, I'd argue there are at least some examples of people that while not in the business, aren't hurting anyone being around.

Again Gideon is a good example. I've never really seen him post shit just to cause shit. The guy's obviously very passionate about what he believes and all his fair use and yada yada. Personally I don't agree with much or most of what he says, and I just skip reading it. Robbie on the other hand can't help but get his granny panties all tangled up in a bunch everytime the guy posts. Instead of realizing that Gideon's not actually trying to harm him and just accepting they disagree, he has to constantly try to change Gideon's mind. When that doesn't work it breaks down to bullying. Yes that's exactly what I said, bullying. Just read the way he responds, it sounds like a frustrated school yard bully trying to show just how bad he is. It's ridiculous but at least comical to read.

On the other hand, we have people like Fatfoo, who presumably are just dandy to keep because they do some penny-ante adult writing on the side. The fact that the user posts absolutely nothing but fucking nonsense and plenty of it doesn't enter the equation at all.

Seems to me like a ridiculous sytem but hey I've come to expect ridiculous shit from this "industry". Fortunately I guess for me I'm not afraid of Robbie and crew and can easily proove I'm "in the business". I guess they'll have to make up some new rules to get rid of the "haters" like me. :pimp

Could add an invite only section (need invites from 2 different people already in the invite only section to get in) and stop worrying about the 2 or 3 surfers in the rest of the forums.

He doesn't belong here because he's not in the industry. As far as conventions go...please feel free to drag your ass to one and tell ME to my face that I'm a "social misfit high fiving"

You don't have a clue as to the majority of folks at the conventions. I've met and done business with some very smart people in this business. The last few shows have been dead as hell...but when they were happening there was a lot of money being made at them.

For a guy who doesn't go and see for himself you sure seem to have a lot to opine on.

As for your question as to what gideongallery has done to "harm" my business...nothing. Matter of fact I've laughed at his dumb ass for the last couple of years. He's brought me a lot of enjoyment. BUT...he doesn't belong here. This is an industry board.

And that is what Eric said in his post....goodbye to people not in this business. I pointed out that gideongallery loves to come to GFY and troll the living hell out of people like me that actually have skin in the game and are in the very front lines of the business by taunting us and telling us that HE will use OUR content to make money and there's nothing we can do about it.

He doesn't belong here. Please don't call my name out anymore Warchild. You have no dog in that fight, you're an affiliate. So chill please. :)

signupdamnit,will76,Garce,nanobot,randywest forgot tht dude named robbie....would all be someone I would listen to.I know that I'm a nobody but I read and BELIEVE what these cats say
if you are looking for help

I'm not going to comment on the other stuff because I don't think it's my place to try to set the rules here. All I will say about it is that I don't think it should be stringently enforced either. It should be mainly for the trouble makers. It sounds like that's where it's going anyway.

About Fatfoo I was recently shocked to learn that he has sites. I actually have an active trade with him. He's definitely a webmaster. :pimp

You think I'm afraid of your stupid ass? Get serious Robbie. I wouldn't have any cause to converse with you so why the fuck would I say anything at all to you? If you want to know the honest truth I think you're a joke. If you want to come start a fight with me, and that's what you're trying to imply here (remember the part about bullying?), you can feel free to do whatever you like. Personally I don't suggest it but hey it'll be funny to post about later.

It's kind of ironic that you would say I don't have a clue when you yourself are completely clueless. I've been in this Industry myself for 10 years. I've been to more than a Dozen conventions including multiple Internexts, the Phoneix Forum, etc etc. I've met and know guys like Paolo, Q, John V, Mark De, Al Foray, Steve Lightspeed, hahaha, Duke, Ig, etc etc. The reason I don't bring that kind of shit up is because unlike you I don't believe who I've met gives me any more or less credibility.

I don't go much anymore because I have no desire at all to hang out with guys like you. You're totally deluded dude. I know you think you're the man and everyone wishes they could be just like you. It seems to be important that you validate your position constantly. I just want to be absolutely fucking clear here that I'm not the only one that just thinks you're a loud mouthed joke.

Like I've already said I disgaree with most of Gideon's crap. It's still funny to watch you get all puffed up and agro over what he has to say though. It's good entertainment.

I'll call out whomever I like whenever I like. The fact of the matter is there isn't really anything your aged ass can do about it. You can't scare me quiet, you can't beat me quiet and you can't impress me quiet. That's a brand of impotence your pills won't help with champ.

I think I meet all your criteria to have an opinion, Robbie.

Been to conventions? Check
Have met and know industry players? Check
Full time in the business? Check - More than 10 years
Moved out of mom's basement? Check - Have a nice house.
Have done drugs? Check

That's the standard checklist you use to discredit somebody around here right? Fuck I don't fit in to your little grouping and classification system. You might have to expand the criteria. I know expanding your horizions is not really a skill of yours, Curly Sue, but you might give it a try.

Wow...you sure have me scared now. Well since you really think you could whip my ass...I'd say why not come on to Internext THIS year and teach me a lesson? Maybe you could beat me up with your MMA skills? That would make a great story wouldn't it? And by the way Al's name isn't "Foray" but whatever.

Point is you just said yourself that conventions were good. But unless you were at the shows from the 1990's to 2001 you didn't meet Al. Because Al and I went together every year since we owned the company together. And I certainly don't remember meeting you.

Neither he nor I went to any shows again until 2007. So you're either lying or mistaken on that one.

Now I'm gonna just put you on "ignore" before you continue on about how much of a badass you are. And I wasn't implying that I was gonna "fight" you. I'm telling you flat out if anybody, anywhere gets up in my face acting like a jack ass I will hit them as hard as I can and I guarantee you it will hurt real bad. Wouldn't you?

Never mind...I'm putting you on ignore. You're useless to me and most of the time you post on GFY is just trolling anyway. Goodbye mighty "warchild"

No you don't get it. I don't want to start a fight with you. I don't care how bad you think I am or you think you are. It really doesn't matter to me.

I am going to continue to say whatever I think though because I'm not worried one little bit about running in to you one day. You're totally powerless when it comes to me. I know it makes you feel small but you're going to have to accept it.

You're so predicitable it's comical. Of course I'm lying, just making shit up trying to impress you. It's the only thing that makes sense to your little mind.

I don't know what Al's real name is. I know he introduced himself to me as Al Foray. It was in the Ventian hotel, Internext Vegas in the private Meat Cash entertainment suite where I partied most nights of that particular conference. I don't remember you there at all. If you were there you'd remember me because I was the dude throwing the losers that kept showing up out the front door. I think that was Internext 2002.

i support this 10000000000%

I'm not gonna lose any sleep over gideon one way or the other but what does he do in the industry? Aside from making nonsensical posts here that is. I have no idea. Do you?

I won't lose any sleep either, but who cares what he does in the "industry"? Isn't this a discussion board? Wouldn't it serve to have as many different view points participating in that discussion as possible? Especially given that we have people like Fatfoo who apparently IS in this industry but offers even less to the actual discussion than most fake nicks do?

STOP... It's Hammer Time!

indeed it will:2 cents: