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Old 11-19-2010, 07:07 PM   #1
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PC Notebooks With Mac-Like Design, Where Are They?

I'm a huge fan of Apple's hardware design but not a big fan of OSX for a number of reasons. I've run Windows on a Macbook Pro using Bootcamp and I've also done it using virtualization software like Fusion. There always seems to be one issue or another as a result of running Windows on Apple hardware.

Of course if you require any type of technical support for any issues you get bounced back and forth between Microsoft and Apple with each of them claiming the issue is the other company's problem.

So my question is this, are there any PC manufacturers that make notebooks designed like the MacBook Pro (thin, stream-lined, sleek aluminum unibody construction). If not, why do all PC notebooks still look like they were designed in the early 90's?
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:18 PM   #2
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I'm the opposite. I'll take any piece of shit looking machine, if it runs OS X really well. I love OS X.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:25 PM   #3
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I guess the closest thing to what you are looking for would be Sony computers. What you are looking for is a bit odd though. I guess some people like to do things the hard way.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:26 PM   #4
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Well, if you are running windows on a Mac I can see how Apple would say it is not their problem. VMware should address any issues you have with Fusion. Other than that what is it you need to do on a Mac that you can't do?
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:47 PM   #5
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.....What you are looking for is a bit odd though. I guess some people like to do things the hard way.
I don't think it's odd at all. I would just like to have a PC notebook with high-end design similar to that of a Macbook Pro. I see no reason why any PC maufacturer couldn't design a Windows machine with asthetics similar to that of a Macbook Pro. It's also more than just the appearance, I have a 17" Macbook Pro that I can pick up with one hand without feeling like it's going to break in half if I don't support it with both hands. I've yet to see a 17" PC notebook that was that solid from a structural standpoint.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:58 PM   #6
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Well, if you are running windows on a Mac I can see how Apple would say it is not their problem. VMware should address any issues you have with Fusion. Other than that what is it you need to do on a Mac that you can't do?
I understand why Apple would feel that way as well which is why I'd like to find a PC vendor that offers a notebook something like the Macbook Pro. The problem with VMware is you are sacrificing performance when running it or any other virtualization software. I could list a number of little nuisance type issues I've encountered running Windows on a Mac (using Bootcamp), for example I've yet to find a solution to maintain a stable bluetooth connection between the MacBook Pro and a wireless mouse while running Windows 7. I've tried every driver update and software configuration under the sun. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And it pretty much never maintains the connection when restarting. So every time you restart you have to go through the bluetooth discovery/pairing process from scratch. Stuff like that.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:00 PM   #7
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Its bizzare isn't it. Is it because most of the PC manufacturing is run by lifeless corps and fueled by computer nerds who prefer functionality over aesthetics?

By reception to Apple's products, it's clear that people like to have things that look nice. And Windows 7 ain't all that bad either. But we're still stuck with mid-90's laptop designs. Some manufacturing company is gonna hit it big like LG did with their Galaxy S Android competition to iPhone.

P.S. Sony computers suck ass. I use one as an overpriced doorstop. Useless expensive pieces of shit.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:21 PM   #8
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I agree with Linguist. Apple is both aesthetics driven as well as usability driven whereas windows based computers are often built just to be built. More ram more this and that but no real though to aesthetics. However builds a windows based laptop that has the usability of a mac will make a fortune.
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I'm the opposite. I'll take any piece of shit looking machine, if it runs OS X really well. I love OS X.


I always wonder why people don't like OS X, it's probably the cleanest, most reliable, workflow enhancing OS out there.

If you come from Windows making the switch can take some adjustment, it just takes some time.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:34 PM   #10
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i couldn't care less how pc looks as long as it is working well. I am kinda glad pc laptops look plain - lets leave the superficial things to mac users. They prefer style over substance .
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:38 PM   #11
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Sony has a few slick looking Vaio laptops, price is reasonable as is functionality.

I bought a new one last year, the fan motor had to be replaced and there was one other issue I can't remember but they sent a tech out on call to my location to do the repairs at no cost so I can't complain.

My previous Vaio kicked ass for 5+ years. I like them.
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:44 PM   #12
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i couldn't care less how pc looks as long as it is working well. I am kinda glad pc laptops look plain - lets leave the superficial things to mac users. They prefer style over substance .
Why do why have to choose between "style" and "substance"? In this case there's no logical reason why we shouldn't be able to have both! I agree with DateDoc, the first PC vendor to offer a notebook solution similar to the Macbook in terms of aesthetics will be a huge hit.
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:48 PM   #13
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I always wonder why people don't like OS X, it's probably the cleanest, most reliable, workflow enhancing OS out there.

If you come from Windows making the switch can take some adjustment, it just takes some time.
I have 3 machines running osx, however a few web pages I access require IE. Also the firefox version on the mac is slightly different on a few things too.

The Mac os is no more stable then a well put togther Windows 7 machine, and the speed seems the same.
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:40 AM   #14
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Sony has a few slick looking Vaio laptops, price is reasonable as is functionality.
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:05 AM   #15
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What about the HP Envy line of laptops?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/hp-envy-14-review/
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:06 AM   #16
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the HP Envy line of laptops?
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:14 AM   #17
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Here's a recent article with some Windows based alternatives to the Macbook lines:

http://apcmag.com/notebookhunter/buy...o-macbooks.htm
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:31 AM   #19
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Samsung and Gateway have models with similar design and parts/specs.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:52 PM   #20
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Here's a recent article with some Windows based alternatives to the Macbook lines:

http://apcmag.com/notebookhunter/buy...o-macbooks.htm
That's not a bad starting point but I still don't see anything quite as stylish as the Macbook. I'll checkout some of the links from that article though.
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:27 PM   #21
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i run Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro without issues, just the right mouse click annoys me sometimes cause the pointer keeps moving. i tried OS X for a while, but like you i had too many issues with things that did not work like i was used to from Windows
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:31 PM   #22
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I'm not sure why anyone would not like OSX...
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Old 11-20-2010, 02:08 PM   #23
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I'm not sure why anyone would not like OSX...
I didn't really care for the "feel" of it after 15 years of using Windows. I gave it a fair shot (probably about 3 months) and just didn't take to it. Additionally I've got some software (desktop trading) that isn't offered for Mac and I'd prefer not to be bouncing back and forth between two different operating systems.
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