After WWII, the US became a Superpower. And let's face it, the Military Industrial Complex was in full gear. Fear has always been used to keep people in line. From being threatened with ex communication by the Church during the dark ages, to getting groped by TSA at the airports today. I don't care to have our service members fighting in the Middle East, but I am also pragmatic enough to know that if they didn't, our way of life would end.

you need to read and learn, your hate is clouding your vision of reality.

What are you saying here?

You have no clue. You have proved it time and time again. Im going to be honest I think you seem like a nice guy but you are a fat american idiot who needs to open a book.

Where did i say what you did or daughter did was not heroic?

I said indeed it is heroic. Just because you are not capable of separating the issue it is not my problem.

I support troops, wish them the best. But i do not support what they fight for. They mean well but are extremely brainwashed.

So im an asshole because I dont agree with sending innocent young men to fight greedy old mens war? i dont go along with the status quo because im told to.

please explain.

please point out how I cussed out anything. the truth is the truth. the majority of americans dont like to hear it. and that is why you are collapsing.

war was determined to be the way things were/are decided 1000s of years ago, long before america existed.

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What are you 5?? you're a grown man giving a fuck about your "GFY Rep"

Fuck GFY is classic!!

Thank you for insulting me, I was talking about the subject of the thread, are you talking about me....again? Please I know I interest you tons and tons but could you stick to the thread just once instead of insulting me? I'm not hurt by it and everyone sees right through the insult and knows that what you really mean to say is 'I don't know what to argue against that, I have no valid points and all I can do is throw this out.'

Yes, you were there to kill people. What else do you think those fucking bombs do when they explode? Make funny colors?

The people that fly the drones are the one that press the button to kill others, is it not their decision to press the button? So what you're saying is their freedom is taken away so that they can fight for....freedom? Laughable...you are free to do whatever you want, just because you join the military it doesn't mean when you kill you aren't a MURDERER because you still are. You still have the freedom not to join and when you're in the army you have the freedom to reject orders. Don't play the 'not the soldier's choice' card. It is very much the soldier's choice each and every time they kill someone, hurt someone and ruin a family.

hypocrite.

A) point out where i said they should not be honored and do not deserve a day?

you need to be able to separate issues and really understand that human greed and interests are the backing of every decision ever made.

they indeed were fighting for money and greed and nothing else. that is why it is so sad.

i will honor those whos fought bravery but i will not honor the reasons. if people want to throw around "my grandpa did this or that" both my grandpas were in the WW2. and i personally am against war and the reasons. and so were they.

Americans are built up on this thing called "freedom". but your freedom is purely facade.

The country with power always teaches its citizens that the leadership is the best and most suited. that is pure politics.

so please tell me if they didnt fight for money and greed then what did they fight for?

america fights wars that benefit them. The american army is purely a proxy army and is 100% for hire by the highest bidders.

"The difference between fighting for your country and fighting for your countries best interests is merely semantics"

If you are lied to about what your countries best interest are then no you are not really fighting for the best interest.

Your post was condesending toward veterans, sorry if you don't see that.

I don't give a fuck about the rep thing ASSHOLE,I would rather that shit got turned off. I give a shit about the veterans, so shove it up your ass

great thread

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You need to look up the definition of that word bud because that's definitely not what I was being.

canadian forces afghanistan
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http://www.google.com/search?aq=1&oq...b9e82777227709

Canada sends helos, drones to back up troops in Afghanistan

http://www.stripes.com/news/canada-s...nistan-1.87786

fucking hypocrite.

Canadian soldier charged with murder in Afghanistan

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/wor...tml?id=1134693

You ignore my entire post and well thought out answer with whining about getting your feelings hurt.

So because I am anti war it is somehow condescending towards veterans? (which you cant even spell properly)

You make 0 sense.

And dont flatter yourself i didnt negative rep you. I dont neg rep people i feel sorry for.

Canadians are just as dumb for doing it as Americans are. Canadian soldiers are even dumber than the Americans are because at least the US is getting some sort of economic or strategic boost with their murdering. Canada gets a pat on the head from Israel. In return the rest of the world hates us for it. Trust me, I hate that Canada is in on this too.

you always talk like such a macho american. why not tone it down?

i will correct your post VETERAN. not VETERAN"S".

who do you think you are speaking on behalf of all veterans? now you are the one who should feel shameful.

During the fighting at Leonforte in July 1943, according to Mitcham and von Stauffenberg in the book The Battle of Sicily, The Loyal Edmonton Regiment killed captured German prisoners.[4][page needed]
Kurt Meyer, of the 12th SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend, accused Canadian forces of the 3rd Canadian Infantry Division during the 1944 Normandy campaign of breaching the Hague Conventions. He claims that on 7 June notes were found that ordered no prisoners to be taken, information confirmed by Canadian infantry under interrogation; that prisoners were not to be taken if they hindered operations.[5] Hubert Meyer also confirms this story; he states that on 8 June a Canadian notebook was found that contained orders to not take prisoners if they impeded the attacking force.[6] Kurt Meyer also calls upon evidence from Bernhard Siebken’s war crimes trial during which the allegation was made that Canadian infantry shot, on at least one occasion, German soldiers who had surrendered during the campaign.[5]
C.P. Stacey, the Canadian official campaign historian, reports that on 14 April 1945 rumours had been spread that the commanding officer of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada had been killed by a civilian sniper; this resulted in the highlanders setting fire to civilian property within the town of Friesoythe in a case of reprisal.[7] Stacey later wrote that the highlanders first removed German civilians from their property before setting the houses on fire, he commented that he was "glad to say that [he] never heard of another such case".[8]

LOL, did you or did you not say....

"Meta Man, FUCK YOU for the negative rep ASSHOLE"

So apparently you do give a shit.

I also care about Remembrance Day/Veterans day. I was laughing because you're getting all pissy about rep.

Canadian Colonel Williams' Atrocities And Indefinite Surveillance Abuse
"Victims pleaded for lives before being murdered" Senior Canadian military officer's serial torture, rape & murder horror.

This senior Canadian military officer carried out 82 sexually perverted burglaries and two torture, rape, kidnap murders filming and photographing all of them.

http://garydchance-gary.blogspot.com...trocities.html

Reports confirm Canada’s complicity in Afghan state torture

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/ap...afgh-a27.shtml

The funny thing is i didnt even neg rep him. He just cant see who reps him because he is under 10k but he assumes im the only one who thinks he has no idea what he is talking about.

i wouldnt even take 2 seconds out of my day. funny he flattered himself though. :1orglaugh

They died in the service of their country...period. I am satisfied that you would not qualify to serve your country...for a variety of reasons.

Only a fool thinks the world would be better off if Hitler and Japan weren't stopped.

Yes LOL if the cap fits.

Even ignorant people are entitled to their :2 cents:...and that is all your opinions are worth.

if by "their country" you mean Israel, then you are right.

now i am going to explain to you how you were being a hypocrite:

you post a picture of an american soldier who tortured gitmo inmates when canadian military has tortured their enemies.

you call american ww2 soldiers pussies, murderers when canadian military has done the same

you insult me & tell me i insult you for simply stating your hatred of the u.s. clouds your vision of history.

you call u.s. soldiers who command drones murderers when canadian also have drones in afghanistan.

you = fucking hypocrite.

Today you enjoy the benefits that selling arms, supplies and food to Britain and Russia during WW2, brought to the US.

Or are you one of the rich?

Even ignorant people are entitled to their two cents ...and that is all your opinions are worth.

Nearly all US wars were dumb

Bad wars:

*US rebellion. Lost us Canada and a parliament.
*1812, meh.
*Civil War, killed 700K young white men to set Negros free to rape and pillage.
*WWI, killed millions of white people for nothing.
*WWII, gave the West to the Jews to debase and destroy.
*Korean War, saved them from Communism but they never said thank you.
*Vietnam, a noble effort against Judeo-Marxism but geographically hopeless.
*Various small wars for Israel, idiotic.

The good wars:

Mexican war, got us CA and the SW.
Spanish war, got us Cuba which we gave away, idiots.

i just think in ONE HAND its "good" (its not good but you will unerstand) hitler jumped too fast with war, imagine he got atom bomb in hand, mother fucker, that would be end of world,

low blow..

Bullshit on the brainwashed part.

Part of being in the military is being willing to do that which you are TOLD to do whether you believe in it or not, that is part of the sacrifice that you make when you join the military.

Don't ever mistake what a person in the military does under orders with what they believe, they are quite often 2 different things.

Here's some of my research on the War of 1812:

Sometime around September 28, 2009, I was at the Canada-USA border to visit New York, USA. I visited New York, USA on September 29, 2009. There was a sign that said Canada and USA have had a long peaceful relationship for many decades. I am in Toronto, Canada right now.

The War of 1812 was a military conflict fought between the forces of the United States of America and those of the British Empire. The Americans declared war in 1812 for a number of reasons, including trade restrictions, impressment of American merchant sailors into the Royal Navy, British support of American Indian tribes against American expansion, and the humiliation of American honor. Until 1814, the British Empire adopted a defensive strategy, repelling multiple American invasions of the provinces of Upper and Lower Canada. However, the Americans won control of Lake Erie in 1813, seized parts of western Ontario, and destroyed the power of Britain's Indian allies both in Canada and in the Southwest. With the defeat of Napoleon in 1814, the British adopted a more aggressive strategy, sending in large combat armies. British victory at the Battle of Bladensburg in August 1814 allowed the British to capture and burn Washington, D.C. American victories in September 1814 and January 1815 repulsed British invasions of New York and New Orleans.

Yeah if only slavery would have continued the world would be such a better place. :upsidedow

OHHHH ok so it is ok to do things you dont believe in because you are ordered to them? now i get it.

So you must think that the nazis who took orders to put millions of people into ovens were just "taking orders". ya those nazis were sure the ones making the sacrifice.

dont ever mistake tossing a flag or a different uniform on makes it 2 different things. :2 cents:

facts are facts. the dude wants to rip on the u.s.a. and call our troops pussies and murderers and point his finger. turn about is fair play.

he needs a mirror and several history lessons.

Yeah these guys seem to think that all Nazis were great men except for Hitler. The rest were just following orders and being brave, noble soldiers.

dynamo I never said that Canada was any different than the US. I don't make Canadian policy and if I did you can bet it would be different. Thread was about America that's why I was talking about the US. I know all about Canadian crazies and that there are just as many.

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