This is so funny, US government suck you dry with taxes, send you to jail if you try to avoid them but won't cover a socialized medical system?

Damn I love Canada!

dear idiot. we're not talking about those things. we're talking about your desire to get for free, that which you do not deserve.
healthcare isn't a right, its something you purchase from a physician.
no one should be forced to pay for that which you are unwilling to pay for yourself and no one should force someone providing said service to provide it to you for free just because you WANT it.

go get a fucking job and pay for that which you want. you know, like you do for your flat screen tv.

underachievers need a safe place to live. glad you found one.:thumbsup

Yeah those people are going to LOVE being forced to buy insurance. lol

Sorry, BFT, you're modeling this wrong.

This is tribal war. People are voting the way they are because of tribal affiliance, and tribal vengance, not out of expectations of future benefit.

Besides, the republicans have a much more serious problem. They've promised jobs by reducing government spending and kicking the lower classes to the curb.

It remains to be seen wether banks will start lending again if the republicans succeed in gutting government spending - let alone wether the republicans will actually cut spending in any real way.

Either way, republicans promised vengance against the liberal elite, tax breaks for the rich, and jobs.

That's their weak point, not health insurance with it's tribal implications.

However, as a weakness, it's not quick. You have to wait and let the republicans try to appease their tribesmen.

And wait to see what happens with corporations and jobs, lending to small business and jobs.

Republicans need to cut a deal with the banks. Promise to let them steal again, and be safe from investigation for future theft, in exchange for easy loans.

the idiocy of the typical democrat is stunning.

Have fun waiting in line at the ER, BEHIND the people who have no insurance, sucker!

Feel good about the fact that as your rates go up like crazy, those who cannot afford the rates will continue to drop off, and the line YOU will be in will just keep getting longer.

Maybe that's what it will finally take, to make a change. And if you think that the rich will be the only ones to get care after a while, while the less fortunate have guns and nothing to lose, well then things should start get pretty interesting indeed.

if they can afford guns, ammo & Budweiser.... they should think about their priorities a bit.

when they're this dumb, do you think they're even aware? :1orglaugh

why don't you have health insurance again, loser?

This is one thing that baffles me also. Why would anyone delude themselves into thinking the government will do anything but fuck up, waste and corrupt health care if given control of it?

If the class warfare that ensues pitches the 2% wealthiest against the 98% folks that have been fucked over, I will bet on the masses. :2 cents:

Underachievers like the poor child that had the bad luck to have poor parents??

What a heartless motherfucker you are!

i will bet on the 2% that can buy nations and military might.

masses with torches & pitchforks are just target practice.

It is likely the Roman army believed the same thing. :2 cents:

the roman army didn't have B2s, cruise missiles, or mini guns.

if you weren't smart enough to overcome your parents poor decision to have you, thank your lucky stars you're canadian. you've got it all! :1orglaugh

BFT3k, why did you choose not to get insurance?

the "masses" are soft marshmallows.

even if the government was handing out free torches & pitchforks in the welfare line, they'd still be too fucking lazy to use them.

You served in the military, didn't you? Would you have followed orders to bomb Americans in America? If not, then your point is meaningless, unless you think people like the Koch Brothers know how to man planes and hi-tech weaponry, which they likely do not.

This post has clearly gone off on a tangent, and I am guilty for helping it off the tracks.

In the end, it is the same old argument... Should a supposedly powerful and civilized country provide healthcare for its people, or should it instead, provide profit to a middleman?

You think healthcare is Socialism? Then the politicians should not receive it either...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=MWuM2iVVtaA

It is unfortunate there is an Obama logo associated with the above clip, as Obama may have meant well, and his plan certainly offers more than decades of his predecessors, it still rewards the fucking scumbag middlemen.

I looked at the numbers, and I decided it would be in my better interest if YOU pay it for me. I hope that works for you, as that is the system that we are currently in.

By the way, do you live in NJ, or the UK - someone's hiding from something it would appear.

If you are from the UK, then why do you comment and compain about everything going on here in the US, and if you live in the US, then why do your 2257 links point to a UK address?

Inquiring minds would like to know... who is A Dozen Dicks anyway?

I took an oath to defend this country from it's enemies, both foreign and domestic.

mobs of people trying to overthrow the government qualifies as a domestic enemy.

however, i am no longer in the military and thus, no longer held to that oath.

today, I look out for #1, because I understand the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules.

you don't have to like it, but not liking it doesn't change it.

adapt or die.

That's just fine until you get involved in a serious accident or when you get older and need expensive medication.

yeah. how's that working out for you? :1orglaugh

You're a intellectual child, who writes like a child.

What would you say the republicans have promised? Are you claiming they have not said they would produce jobs by cutting government spending? Are you claiming that the only thing they can cut is _not_ entitlements for the poor and lower class?

What will they cut then?

I ask, knowing you won't even try to answer, you'll just be petulant and ad hominem, like always.

I tell you what, I thank god every day I bought my own from Anthem, I would be dead today if I didn't! They have helped with the cancer, the heart blockages and everything else!They first refused to pay for a pet scan without a cat scan which was stupid but after I did the cat scan they approved the pet scan! That is where they found the huge tumor in my stomach! Yes I pay out the ass for it, but without it I would be dead by now!

ouch! those insults really hurt coming from the likes of you. :1orglaugh

yes, life will suck for people like you, leeching off of the system but smaller government and lower taxes helps ALL productive members of society whether they be poor or not.

leeches however, will feel the pinch. :thumbsup

So far so good, but I think your rates will be going up continuously, so please budget accordingly. Nice avoidance of the questions by the way. :thumbsup

Apples and Oranges.
This is one program talked about being cut, to help pay for others!

if only you could budget for your own care. :1orglaugh

I'm one of those 59 million. Have not had insurance for over a year and guess what? Saved over $1,500 which I've used to help my family in their tough times.

My brother hasn't had insurance for several years. Went to the emergency room for meningitis or some shit about 5 years ago, hasn't paid a dime for it. My father came here from Arkansas to get major surgery done, turned into at least a few major surgeries, and AFAIK never paid a dime for that either. That's what your insurance/tax dollars are paying for.

Not that I believe people should be leeches off the system, but I myself am a young healthy 28 year old so honestly don't really need insurance.

Car insurance on the other hand is badly necessary given how people drive around here. :(

blow me you childish twit.

I've been in this business almost as long as you, never taken a fucking dime of government money, been completely self-employed since 1985, paid off a house in the country and socked money away from this business, and am still in it after hundreds of other blowhards have gone bankrupt or run away in shame.

I probably own more guns than you, and unless you're a farmboy and an avid hunter have killed more animals with those guns than you, and spent more time in the woods than you.

You're a petty thinker who has yet to say a single substantive thing about politics on this board, and as far as I can tell you haven't said anything particularly interesting about this business either, altho I admit I dont bother to look.

And once again, like the coward you are, you behave like a pussy and refuse to make substantive claims, refuse to state actual political positions, you hide behind the skirts of your ad hominem.

Pussy.

Yet another Obama failure...
No jobs, no medical insurance!

The intillect behind this post is amazing!

Son, you're a punk.

A funny punk but still, just a punk.:1orglaugh

I explain how smaller government and lower taxes for everyone help everyone and this genius tells me he's got more guns than me.

His stupidity knows no bounds.

Ergo, the red rep.

No, I think that you did...

bump for a great thread

Dam! You mean I am entitled to health care, and did not even know it! Yep I am not voting for those republicans. Am I entitled to a job also? Yes, I love it!

The bottom line with health insurance is this. Health insurance is designed to cover you in the case of catastrophic illness or trauma. it's the same philosophy surrounding your auto, homeowners, or any other insurance along those lines. Do you file an auto insurance claim when you get a tune up? Need some new carpeting in your house? I bet you don't claim it on your homeowners insurance. Why people are unwilling to invest in their own health is amazing and dumbfounding. Flat panel TV's, $4,000 to pimp your ride..no problem. But when asked to give Dr. Jellyfinger a $100 after he checks out your orifices is just too much. The philosophy that the American populus is supposed to foot that bill is a bunch of horseshit.