Dear BJ, FUCK YOU. Step on in to eat your words, you shit talking asshole.

[stocktrader23]

Hey dude, remember a couple of days ago when you said this in my thread offering sponsors an inexpensive way to get into the herbal market?

listen just go straight to the source, don't me middle manned by this idiot. http://www.geminipharm.com/ makes everything you need.

Then when I told you I beat their prices and offered a better service you said this.

a)Bullshit
B)bullshit
c)Bullshit

They supply some of ther biggest herbal companies around and you beat their price? hahaha

Well, I did as promised and shot them an email. Looks like I was right as usual and you were talking out of your ass as predicted.

The cost per bottle is $ 6.25. Packed 24 bottles per case.
Your email indicates an estimated volume of 1000 bottles monthly. We can private label for you at this quantity. We do not do fulfillment and I don't know where the product would be shipped to I am not able to provide a freight estimate.

I am cheaper, I provide order fulfillment.

You were wrong, and a dick.

Fuck you.

Cheers

[minicivan]

Nice. Sounds like you've won a customer!!

Great job!

[stocktrader23]

Nice. Sounds like you've won a customer!!

Great job!

You would be quite surprised at what turns most customers on or off. Just a heads up.

[baddog]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but BJ knows herbals.

[BIGTYMER]

You mean I can really grow my dick? I want a monster cock like those porn stars with three legs.

[minicivan]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but BJ knows herbals.

dog has no dog?

[sextoyking]

Did someone say Fulfillment?

[stocktrader23]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but BJ knows herbals.

I started in herbals in 1998 wholesaling to pharmacies. I nearly offered this service here 5 years ago but it hadn't quite caught on enough at that point. Anyhow, no problem with him as I'm sure he thought himself 'helping' someone but he came into my thread and talked shit before calling me a liar.

I just figured I'd point out his misjudgment so he uses his noodle for a few more seconds before talking out of his ass next time. In fact, if he's paying these prices for herbals I could save him a shitload of money.

In short, no hard feelings. I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to prove someone so cocksure wrong with absolute certainty.

[stocktrader23]

You mean I can really grow my dick? I want a monster cock like those porn stars with three legs.

No, and I don't think I've ever claimed you could. You do know 'herbals' covers everything you find in the natural section of your local chain store, right? The only thing you can get from a male enhancement pill is more blood flow to your wiener. I guess if you want to stretch the truth a bit and consider going from soft to hard 'gaining 3 inches' then that is your problem. I personally do no such thing.

[Agent 488]

congrats on revolutionizing the herbal industry as well.

[stocktrader23]

congrats on revolutionizing the herbal industry as well.

Congrats on having nothing better to do than follow me around. If offering a better service at a lower price is 'revolutionizing' to you then I'll wear that moniker with pride.

[alias]

alibaba.com ftw

[Agent 488]

what is your cost per bottle?

[sextoyking]

Stocktrader,

$6.25 per is ok but nothing to brag about... 3-5.00 is pretty normal - depending on the volume.

[LeRoy]

alibaba.com ftw

[stocktrader23]

what is your cost per bottle?

It depends on how many and what you want but I can usually offer something equal to what else is out there for under $4 on the smaller end and around $2 in bulk.

Cheers

[machinegunkelly]

Stocktrader,

$6.25 per is ok but nothing to brag about... 3-5.00 is pretty normal - depending on the volume.

I don't think that's his price.. He was quoted that by someone else.
Stocktraders saying he beats that price too.

[stocktrader23]

Stocktrader,

$6.25 per is ok but nothing to brag about... 3-5.00 is pretty normal - depending on the volume.

I know, that isn't my price. That is the company BJ claimed was so wonderfully big that there was no way possible I beat their prices. Also, he claimed it while being an asshole and calling me an idiot and liar. Just slinging it back a little.

Cheers

[stocktrader23]

I don't think that's his price.. He was quoted that by someone else.
Stocktraders saying he beats that price too.

And thanks to their shit business hours I had to wait two days on an email to prove my point. Sometimes patience is necessary to win a GFY flamewar.

[sextoyking]

I know, that isn't my price. That is the company BJ claimed was so wonderfully big that there was no way possible I beat their prices. Also, he claimed it while being an asshole and calling me an idiot and liar. Just slinging it back a little.

Cheers

Yep, that's what I meant to say.... his quote to you - well ok, isn't the best I suppose.


Cheers

[stocktrader23]

Yep, that's what I meant to say.... his quote to you - well ok, isn't the best I suppose.


Cheers

Right, I just shot off an email on a common product at 1000 bottles and posted the results back to show BJ that he was full of it in this instance. I'm sure he expected to be right but in this case he was not. I don't hate him or anything, just setting things straight.

Cheers

[sextoyking]

Right, I just shot off an email on a common product at 1000 bottles and posted the results back to show BJ that he was full of it in this instance. I'm sure he expected to be right but in this case he was not. I don't hate him or anything, just setting things straight.

Cheers

I don't handle the wholesale accounts, shipping, etc but after seeing millions of bottles / packs going through the warehouse I have learned a little.

Pricing depends on a few things.

1. who you go with to produce / label

2. what kind of herbs

3. what kind of pkging, bottle, pack, etc.

4. quantity in each bottle, pack...

5. One of the biggest - how much volume you order....

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

My favorite herb comes in many varieties...

ADG

[stocktrader23]

I don't handle the wholesale accounts, shipping, etc but after seeing millions of bottles / packs going through the warehouse I have learned a little.

Pricing depends on a few things.

1. who you go with to produce / label

2. what kind of herbs

3. what kind of pkging, bottle, pack, etc.

4. quantity in each bottle, pack...

5. One of the biggest - how much volume you order....

I know, and I am familiar with the prices because we've made our own products many times throughout the last 12 years. I am confident that I can beat the price for similar products and services across the board. I was challenged on it and came back to prove myself right. I based my response on making the same product with the same ingredients, label type, etc.

[Mickey_]

Can someone please change the channel?

[stocktrader23]

My favorite herb comes in many varieties...

ADG

[BJ]

$6.25 a bottle? If you are talking penis pills, a standard formula, the company I referred to will do $1.50/bottle for 5000 units.

Unless you own and operate a factory you are doing nothing more than being a middleman, so get off your high horse. It is also not rocket science to make a compliant label or to find a fulfillment house or a gateway that will automatically buy and print postage.

[sextoyking]

$6.25 a bottle? If you are talking penis pills, a standard formula, the company I referred to will do $1.50/bottle for 5000 units.

Unless you own and operate a factory you are doing nothing more than being a middleman, so get off your high horse. It is also not rocket science to make a compliant label or to find a fulfillment house or a gateway that will automatically buy and print postage.

1.50 is decent BJ

[BJ]

oh and btw, 1000 bottles a month? You're lucky you even got a response, I would of told you to fuck off.

[stocktrader23]

$6.25 a bottle? If you are talking penis pills, a standard formula, the company I referred to will do $1.50/bottle for 5000 units.

Unless you own and operate a factory you are doing nothing more than being a middleman, so get off your high horse. It is also not rocket science to make a compliant label or to find a fulfillment house or a gateway that will automatically buy and print postage.

Again you cocksure jackass, I can beat the prices from anyone offering services equal to mine. I emailed them about a featured product at 1000 and got the quoted text in reply. I am well aware of volume discounts and order fulfillment houses. I also know that I've not talked to anyone that can match my price.

Why insist on being a jackass for no reason?

[stocktrader23]

oh and btw, 1000 bottles a month? You're lucky you even got a response, I would of told you to fuck off.

So you're just an asshole in general? I asked for a quote at 1000 because that is the package size I offer cheap private label services at. Your comment about telling someone at 1000 per month to 'fuck off' is exactly why I posted the offer. Not everyone around here is such a balling ass dipshit such as yourself that they want to start with large orders.

Want to keep talking out of your ass now or can you just move along without fucking with someone for no reason other than the fact that you are a dick.

[baddog]

never mind

[fatfoo]

The drama llama is funny. Disatisfied customers could speak out.

[Theo]

can you do herbal viagra? out of curiosity.

[Agent 488]

at least alienq could play guitar.

[dyna mo]

nothing has been proven or disproven in this thread.

[BJ]

Actually, i am giving FREE advice, and good advice. Sure it may be EASIER to have you baby sit my penis pills at first, but if I am doing any type of volume, a difference of even 0.10 a bottle, Makes a huge difference to the bottom line and I am sorry, you're prices would not be better, and if they were, Id go to the FACTORY and tell them some MORON on GFY can beat your price so what the fucks up?

I am just pointing out it makes sense to do things right from the start.

[Forest]

Did someone say Fulfillment?

this is the man you want to deal with for fulfillment PERIOD

has been around for ever and has one of the best reps in the business

[sextoyking]

Actually, i am giving FREE advice, and good advice. Sure it may be EASIER to have you baby sit my penis pills at first, but if I am doing any type of volume, a difference of even 0.10 a bottle, Makes a huge difference to the bottom line and I am sorry, you're prices would not be better, and if they were, Id go to the FACTORY and tell them some MORON on GFY can beat your price so what the fucks up?

I am just pointing out it makes sense to do things right from the start.

I hear you BJ..

Well we provide a service. Sure alot of the companies we ship for could do it on there own but we do provide a kick butt service.

Same / next day shipping via usps,fedex, ups, etc

Daily / weekly / monthly stats, invoices.... We handle all returns and can also setup local #'s in any state, most countries, world wide toll free, etc.

We like it the KISS way, keep it simple stupid.



peace

Todd

[stocktrader23]

can you do herbal viagra? out of curiosity.

Define herbal viagra. There are several ingredients and combination of ingredients that actually increase blood flow to your wang (although sometimes that's by speeding up your heart) and this is what I've seen to be marketed as herbal viagra. If that is what you mean then yes, that's a normal male enhancer of some kind. How you market it is up to you but none of the herbal varieties are going to be as effective as the big V.

[stocktrader23]

Actually, i am giving FREE advice, and good advice. Sure it may be EASIER to have you baby sit my penis pills at first, but if I am doing any type of volume, a difference of even 0.10 a bottle, Makes a huge difference to the bottom line and I am sorry, you're prices would not be better, and if they were, Id go to the FACTORY and tell them some MORON on GFY can beat your price so what the fucks up?

I am just pointing out it makes sense to do things right from the start.

Of course you would, and how many 10's of thousands of bottles do you push a week / month? Thing a normal person starting out or even a decent sized affiliate program is going to have that pull from day one? I offered to get people in from the ground floor at a price I haven't seen offered anywhere (I've checked) and provide shipping services at a price I can't find anywhere else. Not everyone wants to open their own damn warehouse and order fulfillment division.

I don't know why you keep trying to justify being an asshole. You obviously sell pills, have for a long time and move bulk. If you are mailing your own crap then you would have no need for someone to handle that for you obviously. You however shit on my business and called me an idiot for no reason except that 99 out of 100 times when someone posts similar they are full of it. I'm not.

Good luck to you, have a nice life etc. I am simply defending myself and would do it again.

Cheers

[BJ]

I will agree with you there, If you are not sure, want a low investment, then your service could be useful for low volumes. A revolving door business, once those customers become bigger they will move on.

The fulfillment thing is fine, you probably can get a bigger courier discount than a customer just starting out would be forced to pay retail. I had thought of it many times, pain in the ass to have a warehouse etc. I did use a call center as well for customer support.

On the pills themselves, unless you are running a charity you are taking a commission, which is fine, but so is the sales person at whatever factory you are ordering from.

[will76]

Congrats on having nothing better to do than follow me around. If offering a better service at a lower price is 'revolutionizing' to you then I'll wear that moniker with pride.

he follows everyone around. He is a GFY loser, you know the people with no life that spends 24/7 on here just trolling people with 1 liners.

Is this what your $40 traffic deal was about ?

[will76]

Honest question, do any of you believe that penis pills work? Please just tell me its about the money and getting sales... that you don't actually believe someone can take a pill and their dick grows from 6 inches to 8 inches permanently.

Unless if you are talking about some bootleg viagra stuff.

[stocktrader23]

Honest question, do any of you believe that penis pills work? Please just tell me its about the money and getting sales... that you don't actually believe someone can take a pill and their dick grows from 6 inches to 8 inches permanently.

Unless if you are talking about some bootleg viagra stuff.

The grow your wiener kind, no. I've already addressed that in here. I seriously doubt stretching it with a metal contraption helps either but that's not my area of expertise.

[BJ]

he follows everyone around. He is a GFY loser, you know the people with no life that spends 24/7 on here just trolling people with 1 liners.

Is this what your $40 traffic deal was about ?

Another clueless know it all

[will76]

Another clueless know it all

I don't even remember seeing your name before on here. But I guess you know who I am, congrats to you.

i hope you make lots of penises bigger. I'm just a little prick.

[BaldBastard]

I have access to water from Brigadoon, it cures cancer and bad breath, can you hook me up to sell some?

[anexsia]

Honest question, do any of you believe that penis pills work? Please just tell me its about the money and getting sales... that you don't actually believe someone can take a pill and their dick grows from 6 inches to 8 inches permanently.

Unless if you are talking about some bootleg viagra stuff.

I took them and my penis grew 10 inches over night, amazing.

[stocktrader23]

I took them and my penis grew 10 inches over night, amazing.

As teencat would say 'That just blurry vision side effect. Should see doctor before dick falls over.'