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|  10-31-2010, 06:58 PM | #51 | 
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				 | If they are so bad, stop promoting them, ffs. Every topic about them is at least 3 pages long. Makes you wonder. | 
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|  10-31-2010, 07:04 PM | #52 | 
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				 | mad aint it. 
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|  10-31-2010, 07:23 PM | #53 | |
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 We are not mean people nor looking to cause trouble. We have sent out numerous emails to all our affiliates and gave them well over a month to make the needed adjustments. We NEVER contacted CCBill directly. When an account is suspended an email comes from us, via CCBill in a computer generated format. We don't have anything personal against anybody, we just simply need to enforce our easy to follow rules against over promotion so that all our affiliates can continue to makes sales. Our goal is not to allow affiliates to create a free library of our content online that reduces overall sales to affiliates and ourselves. In our TOS and in our Affiliate Media pages (where the FHG content is located) it simply outlines the rules of posting our FHG's. It's not difficult and it's not unreasonable. The max per location is 4 per site. If you promote both our sites, then it's 4 from one, and 4 from the other. No posting in public free forums that don't update. Affiliates are to use our FHG's in their own affiliate websites. If you would please simply correct the situation instead of blaming us, your account will be reinstated within moments and we can move forward and keep making sales. Let's keep our eye's on the ball. We are here to make you money. We have solid 3rd party billers, you will always get paid on time every time wtih CCBill. Yes, our rules might not "mesh" with what you are used to, but the internet and the adult market is changing daily. We are doing what is needed to survive to keep our affiliates and ourselves happy with sales. Over promotion = death of a website. We have put our content "back in the plastic wrapper" to induce more sales in the long run. Thank you for understanding. Alpha Sky Productions | |
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|  10-31-2010, 07:29 PM | #54 | 
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				 | i got this and no warnings like you write here: Your Affiliate account(s) has/have been deactivated due to violation of acceptable use policy. Notes from CCBill: 2 Attempts were made to contact the Affiliate. Affiliate does not wish to comply by reducing the amount of promotional materials used (FHG's) in one Affiliate website location. Over promoting our website(s) is not allowed. When Affiliate reduces the amount of FHG's to 4 or less per affiliate website location, account will be reinstated. Please note, item # 8 in our TOS, no posting FHG's on permanent public boards that do not update and remove their links after 10 days. Account suspended until matter is corrected. the websites you included weren't even mine. just weird man. | 
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  It is very difficult to do something different in this market. I read everyday sites closing, affiliate programs closing and billing services going under, ripping people off on the way out.... We have done nothing of the sort and are surving in this difficult market place. I hope after another year has passed, people will re read some of these threads and realize what we are trying to do. Keep our business alive for our affiliates and ourselves for future business. Thanks again, oh and Happy Halloween!  | ||||
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|  10-31-2010, 07:30 PM | #56 | 
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				 | i got this and no warnings like you write here: Your Affiliate account(s) has/have been deactivated due to violation of acceptable use policy. Notes from CCBill: 2 Attempts were made to contact the Affiliate. Affiliate does not wish to comply by reducing the amount of promotional materials used (FHG's) in one Affiliate website location. Over promoting our website(s) is not allowed. When Affiliate reduces the amount of FHG's to 4 or less per affiliate website location, account will be reinstated. Please note, item # 8 in our TOS, no posting FHG's on permanent public boards that do not update and remove their links after 10 days. Account suspended until matter is corrected. the websites you included weren't even mine. i might have had a couple galleries out there. just weird man. | 
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|  10-31-2010, 07:31 PM | #57 | 
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				 | I don't promote them, but even I knew they had limitations on the use of their content. | 
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|  10-31-2010, 07:35 PM | #58 | |
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|  10-31-2010, 07:40 PM | #59 | |
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|  10-31-2010, 07:50 PM | #60 | 
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				 | So, say I follow your rules and have a max of 4 Apple Twins galleries on my site. Then some surfer goes and posts a link to one of my pages on a surfer forum. I am not a member of the forum and I am not the original owner of the content. But you send me one of those emails telling me to remove that link. I'm stuffed. | 
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|  10-31-2010, 09:40 PM | #61 | 
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				 | hands keep trying to feed you and you keep bitin' em   
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|  10-31-2010, 09:45 PM | #62 | 
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				 | so fucking clueless.. such a shame. the girls are hot 
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|  10-31-2010, 09:55 PM | #63 | 
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|  10-31-2010, 10:17 PM | #65 | 
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|  10-31-2010, 10:27 PM | #66 | |
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|  10-31-2010, 10:31 PM | #67 | |
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|  10-31-2010, 10:32 PM | #68 | 
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				 | The only thing I got out of his reply is that he needed to protect the girls from over promotion by affiliates. Over promotion. Really? You want to protect someone from being to promoted? Okay then. 
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|  10-31-2010, 10:36 PM | #69 | 
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				 | If you can do it in a fun way  
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|  10-31-2010, 10:37 PM | #70 | |
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 Posted by surfers, and they are getting their accounts killed. AlphaSky, you could really ease the naysayers by simply showing us how much your sales have increased since you did this. And thanking the TROLLS for supporting you while the real webmasters are criticizing it really makes you look foolish. ALSO - posting notices on a site called gofuckyourself.com and thinking that its 'enough' is a joke. Now feel free to just call me a troll again and brush me off. 
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|  10-31-2010, 10:56 PM | #71 | 
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|  10-31-2010, 11:21 PM | #72 | 
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				 | Thats just stupis. | 
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|  10-31-2010, 11:59 PM | #73 | |
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 We sell our original content to our members for $ 24.95. We don't give it away for free. Ask yourself how many websites have you seen come and go in the last 5 years? Why? Because their content gets blown out all over the net with over promotion. It's up to the site owners and affiliates to keep a lid on the splurge of free samples to keep the traffic interested in "buying" a membership as opposed to just Googling it and finding a multitude of affiliate libraries with hundreds of free samples. If you were a site owner of original content (not sure if you are or not, don't bite my ass off.) you would understand this. Affiliates don't share the same risk because when the site gets blown out, he can simply delete dead affiliate programs and move on to the next one. We are not going to let that happen to our sites. We've been making money for over 2 years now with just 4 models and we plan on continuing by dodging all the pitfalls of over promotion online. Make 'em pay to see what they want to see... not give it all away for free and wonder why sales are so bad. | |
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|  11-01-2010, 12:13 AM | #74 | 
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				 | Over promotion is not the death of a site.  If that were true, look at all the sites FreeOnes.com has killed. 
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|  11-01-2010, 12:21 AM | #75 | 
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				 | Yeah, it does make sense, you cannot give all 12 of your content sets away and have nothing left in the members area. But the answer wasn't to outlaw using more then 4 galleries, the answer was to shoot more content then the 12 you gave out. 
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|  11-01-2010, 12:23 AM | #76 | |
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 But whatever.. I don't even know why I'm bothering. Not like I care one way or another if you succeed or fail. Carry on dude.  | |
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|  11-01-2010, 12:30 AM | #77 | |
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|  11-01-2010, 12:31 AM | #78 | 
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				 | You were in violation of their TOS. Serves you right that they shut you down. 
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|  11-01-2010, 03:22 AM | #79 | 
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				 | Ok, honestly. I have never seen a sponsor having so stupid limits about posting FHG. I mean according to PornInspector you only offer 12 FHG at all. Even if he posts them all this is FAR from overpromoting. You should be more worried about illegal tubes and filesharing instead. Anyway, if an affiliate program is so retarded to block HUGE traffic whales like PornInspector/PenisBot that's just dumb and I won't feel sorry if you don't survive in the end. | 
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|  11-01-2010, 03:23 AM | #80 | 
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				 | thats some funny shit. 
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|  11-01-2010, 03:38 AM | #81 | |
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|  11-01-2010, 03:41 AM | #82 | 
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				 | How is that working out for you? 
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|  11-01-2010, 03:54 AM | #83 | 
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				 | We don't promote them anymore as in we don't put any new fhgs/content up. They have their section(s) and thats about it. Too much hassle indeed ;))) 
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|  11-01-2010, 04:00 AM | #84 | 
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				 | Honestly how many of you preaching about the sanctity of a TOS have the time to read the TOS of every company you do business with. Jesus Google AdSense updates their TOS daily, if I read every update it would consume my day. When doing business with a company you have to trust their TOS is similar to everyone else in the industry. When they bring a violation to YOUR attention, then and only do you have to decide whether promoting their company is worth it. Without going into detail I recently had a similar situation come up, when I was made aware of the TOS infringement (YES, I was made aware) I had to make a choice as to whether or not I wanted to do continue to business with them under their restrictions. In this particular case I choose to cease business, but harbor no ill will towards the program. Hell its their program and really they can drive it into the ground if they want to. 
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|  11-01-2010, 04:34 AM | #85 | |
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|  11-01-2010, 05:12 AM | #86 | |
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 I couldn't be bother to check out your stuff, because you've come off as a moron on here...so I don't know if this is the case or not. | |
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|  11-01-2010, 05:19 AM | #87 | 
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				 | I don't understand why they'd want to limit the use of their hosted galleries. If I had a program, I wouldn't care if someone built a site of just my hosted galleries, wouldn't you want the exposure ?? As long as they're not using a pass to your site, pulling your content, and making their own, why would you care ?? | 
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|  11-01-2010, 06:13 AM | #88 | 
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				 | I think the site owner is trying to say over exposure when he keeps mentioning over promotion. What is this guy doing with a program? These poor girls need a better manager! LoL over here.  Alpha Sky - why not make a pile of very softcore FHGs? Your position is, they'll pay to see, great - use soft promo material. But provide more. A-lot more. And erase the "over promotion" bullshit from your brain - what are you, doing too many drugs? Please! | 
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|  11-01-2010, 07:00 AM | #89 | 
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				 | Alpha Sky has his mind made up and he's stubborn so that's probably what will eventually kill his program.  Not whether or not someone posts 8 or 12 FHGs. 
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|  11-01-2010, 07:09 AM | #90 | 
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				 | Limiting the number of galleries available is not that bad of a thing.  But terming an account without speaking to the person for something like that.   Hrm... 
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|  11-01-2010, 07:59 AM | #91 | 
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|  11-01-2010, 08:05 AM | #92 | 
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				 | i assume the 12 galleries is the whole members area so year, if you have 12 gals up why buy .... has a certain logic. | 
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|  11-01-2010, 08:36 AM | #93 | |
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 richmedia sends 1000's of signups to programs, and you are doing a good job of pissing all the affiliates off. no wonder you have hardly any members, look at ftvcash, and other programs where they have so many hosted galleries, theirs a reason for it, and they have a huge member base in return. I think you are doing more harm than good with the limited content. 
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|  11-01-2010, 08:47 AM | #94 | 
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				 | Because he only has 12 sets of twins pretending to commit incest in the members' area seems to be the popular thought.  I can see why he doesn't want ALL of his fake family fucking in the wild, cos then when someone that wants to see two relatives pretend to they are about to fuck, he would be really disappointed as he has seen all the content already. | 
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|  11-01-2010, 08:49 AM | #95 | 
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				 | that is ridiculous, because of using 12 galleries at a time? Jeez! | 
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|  11-01-2010, 09:16 AM | #96 | 
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				 | I found this hilarious since some programs like nubiles have over 10k+ fhgs yet they still convert very good.... | 
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|  11-01-2010, 04:13 PM | #97 | 
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				 | Thanks again.    We'll fall in line and do everything exactly the same, as it has been done for years. We'll create 1000 FHG's, with free flash movies! Tons of them! We'll have bonus $ 100 per sign up days every Tuesday and Thursday!!! 70% sign up pay outs for the first 10 signs ups, then it'll go to 80% after that!! Yes!! that's it!!! We'll all be rich rich rich!!!! We'll get our own merchant account and we'll never steal or skim sales, no, not us!! We'll maintain these great high payouts and great massive promotional materials cause sales will be amazing!! I'll get started on it now.... the new programs will debut this weekend!!! We'll be number #1 on the google search cause we'll be all over the net!! We'll have the biggest websites on the planet!!! Huge profits, huge income!! I'll go buy a new car, new house, throw wild adult promotional parties!!!! ahh, life is good again. Porn isn't dead, it was just waiting for us!!! | 
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|  11-02-2010, 05:09 AM | #98 | |
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|  11-02-2010, 05:18 AM | #99 | |
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