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Right on man! Some people are just freeloaders.

Would they spend $250 million making Avatar, if everybody thought they should be able to watch it for FREE?

ok, i'll pay you 1 dollar pps on a 4 dollar monthly membership. deal?

They actually think there are THOUSANDS of people producing porn and giving it away? Which internet is this they speak of?

Is this real? Our "industry leaders" got together and came up with the master plan to embarrass people?

Well I am your first victim!

The best comment for me in all of those was the guy saying we would have to totally "redo the internet" in order to achieve our goal. With some hard work, a lot of lawsuits, and good old fashioned ingenuity, I believe we can do exactly that. The alternative is what?

I'm not going to openly list any ideas here because I know some of the biggest pirates and pro-pirate "webmasters" are among us.

"Where we go from here" will either be where we allow it to go or where we take it.

That is not true. It all hurts collectively.

However, where tubes and file sharing really hurt us are in search results. They often dominate just about every porn keyword and then give you the same thing you were just searching for, for free. That hurts.

Forums are devastating, no doubt about it, but I can't point to any one thing and say it is worse than the other. We are being attacked from all sides and are generally unable to defend ourselves with our current defenses. We either have to create new defenses, fight back, or do nothing and take the beating until we are forced to close shop.

Those with no dogs in the fight will hate (you can see it already here with their posts - easy to spot them), pro-piracy clowns will always have reasons for why we will fail, but those who are already taking action (whatever that action is) do not need to be told if it is the right thing to do or not, because you know it is.

When I asked a friend what he would do if he was arrested for download and sharing movies, he actually said "Why would I be arrested? It's free!". He had absolutely no clue at all about what he was really doing. Neither do these porn surfers.

Did anyone notice a "tone" to their rants? To me some of them seemed to talk as if they "deserved" their free porn... as if it was their right. Maybe I'm just testy tonight, but some of those people gave me that vibe...

[QUOTE=Mutt;17648560]the smart guy was the guy who nailed the biggest enemy and it isn't the tubes - it's direct downloads via thousands of forums and blogs filled with links to the exploding file hosting scene, Rapidshare, Hotfile, Megaupload,Fileserver et al

Tube sites grabbed millions and millions of freeloading surfers from TGP/MGP's, surfers happy with instantly streamed poor quality Flash videos. The direct downloaders are............were..... our best customers. The savvy porn connoisseurs who want premium quality content in their favorite niche(s). They now can get it all almost as instantly and in the quality they'd get from a members area, close to the same quality they'd get from a DVD, with the help of Google, Filestube which will soon have 50 copycats, and all those forums and blogs. They are the final nails in our coffin. The DMCA fully protects the file hosting operators and the forum owners.

we're fucked.[/QUOT


yep we are fucked. no way to stop it now...

like i have always said just ask anyone what is their favorite pornsite and they will mention one of the tubes 9 out of 10 people. ofcourse they all think its free why would they pay

Meanwhile those who get sued will fall into these categories:
1) OMG I got this letter, and I'm going to pay to make this go away (whoo-hoo, the industry just made $100, if that after lawyer fees).
2) OMG, I'm being blackmailed. They're extorting me by threatening to have a public record of my porn activity. I know enough about the law to counter-sue.
3) OMG, my 9 year old son has been downloading porn. THIS is why porn needs to be made illegal!!!! The porn industry itself has made the case for us that they can't control who sees this evil material and we Christians are determined to stop them.

post from a surfer
now this is scary if you DMCA someone with a child

Shap, if you ever want to offer a product that can't be stolen and add more value to your sites hit me up.

Fighting content theft IMO is a losing battle. People like Steve can nickle and dime with the lawsuits and make some money but as much as he makes from that he will continue to lose more from his picture and video sites.

There is no beating them and there is no stopping it this point. If you people are smart you will use pictures and videos as promotional and marketing materials to get traffic and then get them to join a membership for the stuff they can't steal. Why fight a losing battle when you can make some changes and capitalize from it ?

How do you innovate or adapt when the product you sell is FREE ???

JUst curious if anyone has figured out a way to stop the porn ship from sinking?

Everyone always says innovate or adapt but I havnt seen anything new

I hope all those freeloaders love 10, 20 year old porn form now on. DO they HONESTLY think that ocne ther is ZERO money in porn new porn is going to be made? People in the porn busines aren't doing it for charity. So they may say "Oooh there so much free porn" yeah great if old porn was good as new porn then no new porn would be made there wouldn't be a demand for it. People would just watch porn from the 70's and 80's. Honestly there is enough porn made form 1970-1990 to last one a lifetime. So why do guys want new porn? Beause guys want NEW girls. They don't want some porno movie their grandmas friend made back in 1973. So in 2025 when the newest porn scene is one from 2015, well enjoy it for the 1000th time and don't keep asking when something new is going to be made.

You know 20 years ago I paid $5 for ONE 2 hour porn movie on VHS that I could rent for 24 hours. And of course I had to actually get out of the house and go to a questionable part of town to get it and bring it back. If I had an option of paying $25-$30 a month for HUNDREDS or even 1000's of porno movies and I didn't even have to leave my house, I would have jumped all over that shit in a heartbeat.

You are 100% correct. Even the music industy is facing this future very soon. Lot of people want to put ther heads in the sand and think if they wish hard enough they can put the genie back in the bottle. Ironcially I think if laws like COPA had passed and was enforced vigorously as well as 2257 I think the porn industry would be better off now.

Honestly even with your idea of offering stuff they can't steal and just using content as a means to and end of attracting customers I think the paysite model is doomed. I think pay sites will have to be free and the stuff they can't steal will be behind a paywall and they can pay to access that. That's how most mainstream sites make revenue.