if you can make more money at 25 per without getting credit for consoles and shit, who cares. the consoles aren't that bad.

You and TopBucks, in this case, both take in the same amount of initial money. They pay $30, you pay $25 and have traffic leaks, and lots of consoles.

Sorry my explanation is so brief, but if you do a little reading you might start to understand the basic mathematical principle at work here.

I can find PLENTY of sponsors paying more per free 30 minute trial than you are, but you're right they also have consoles. So you have inferior payouts on both 4.95 and free trials, congratulations.

Your sites rip off affiliates and surfers, what's not to like?

The only reason we piss is because you, unlike your buddies who I also don't care for, take up the argument. You're the Dennis Rodman of GFY, all show and no skill.

what he isnt understanding.. is im paying out 25 per sale on a 4.95 30 day site.. not 25 per sale on a 4.95 3 day trial.. he has a serious problem with understanding and reading at the same time. he just likes to bust peoples balls that are more successful than him. no big deal. he is a piece of cake to bitchslap compared to some.

we just need jammyjenkins and choker in this thread.. maybe thefly too.. then this will get fun.

Damn guys knock it off with all the math, and wondering how he can do it or why he doesn't pay on this or that.. what matters is this:

Sponsor A - sends you $10,000 for this weeks traffic.
Sponsor B - sends you $7,500 for this weeks traffic.

So you stick with Sponsor A if you make more with Sponsor A. Does it really matter how he does the math or what the numbers say for him to get it to you ?

Site looks pretty good. Seems like it'd do well.

are you this fuckign stupid?

look:
I have to wait for the surfer to convert after 30 fucking days.. while other programs have 3 days to get them to convert. so they have a 300% better chance of getting them to rebill than i do.

are you this dense really?

Pimpdog, correct me if I'm wrong. But you have a FREE 3 day trial, which then moves to $4.95 monthly.

Much different than Top Bucks.

on this particualr site.. I have no free trial.
I offer 4.95 30 days access

thats 30 FULL days for 4.95 and he is busting my balls cause i only payout 25 bucks on it.. haha

fuck this is 3rd grade shit.

Ah, I just now noticed your post earlier.

What's it matter if he pays less than Top Bucks? Just because A does something doesn't mean B, C, and D should too.

300% more likely to cancel? If that were true, and your retention was a sky-high 50% from trial to monthly, TopBucks would have an 84% retention rate. Wow!

Please feel free to ignore my other comments.

The design, by the way, is cookie cutter. If you can convert it, wonderful.

Let the ad hominem commence!

I might pay 5 bucks less than topbucks.. but im taking 50% more risk chance on this site.

i could lose my ass on it.

why is it so hard to see the logic here.

4.95 for a full 30 days. you make 25-30 per sale. no conversions necessary.

topbucks has 3 days to convert the surfer.. I have to wait 30 days to convert them.. am i not explaining this properly?

Smoke break.

Your command of mathetmatics and statistics is truly admirable. I can see why people feel comfortable sending you their traffic.

you are unreal dude
1st i shave
now my design sucks whats next?

Heh now why doesnt anybody buy vipaccess.com from my brother and I? perfect domain name for this kind of shit.. and hes lookin to sell haha ;)
seriously if anyone is interested, hit me up on email washiez at cybermotives.com

I was backing you up man. I think mpeg is the only one having the problem. He must run one of those super-converting programs like Pipecrew Cash.

Sly's choice of affiliate programs is, of course, impeccable.

Coming to the aid of someone operating on flawed logic is not the best idea. If you like his program, BY ALL MEANS USE IT.

I have never said 'don't use epiccash' I have simply pointed out what I feel are major flaws with the way he runs his program. I did the same to drops, I constantly do the same to sexentertain, and I will do so to any others I run across. Pimpdogg attacks me, I say my piece. God bless the 1st Amendment.

If you run a tight ship you have nothing to worry about from me.

i wasnt lashing at you.. its just frustrating to have some 17 yr old kid say that you shave and talks all this shit with no clue on earth what he is talking about.

:1orglaugh

I love knowing that I'm the only one who finds shitty affiliate programs.

what about CEN, pornkings, megapornbucks,python,etc etc etc.. they all have exit consoles.. what makes me any different?

those are solid programs and highly successful.. whats the problem ?

I may regret putting my two cents up here (I HATE being slammed, so be nice).... But Trey, I get your math. I get the difference. And like someone said above, it all comes down to the checks you get. If you make more money with A over B you stick with A. I think you will do quite well and I wish ya tons of luck with it.

How about your a asshole? :winkwink:

Test..

hello boneprone

thank you Jen.. I think it will do well also.. this is kind of a ritual around here..

you release a site.. and the ppl either love it or hate it.. all the haters will always be haters and remain in moms spare bedroom, while ppl like myself and many others will be buying momz house from them and tearing it down to remove the eye soar.

rodman was the best rebounder in the nba. no skill? are you on crack.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

p1mpdog.
hiot me on ICQ. I wanna send you some traffic

good talking to you sharky.

it is nice to see pimpdog has come from being a spammer to running some quality affilate programs

I'm a stickler for this sort of thing, but you should probably proofread all of your designer's text before you finalize any designs. Grammer and spelling errors can cost you big time. For example:

Here is a few of the bonuses

This should be Here are a few of the bonuses.

That's the only glaring problem I can see...but it's your only major pitch, and it's gramatically wrong.

likewise p1mpdog

As that true or are you blowin smoke?

from what i understand.. he is right on the money. It was just to late for me to do that..

Not exactly.

But if pimp can fleece the various people on GFY, he's a better snake oil salesman than I.

Good God, if you don't want to send traffic, then DON'T. How fucking hard is that?????

If you do, then shut up and send traffic, what is this, rate pimpdoggs business model without even seeing what it is?

So long as you get paid, STFU and send traffic.

looks nice good job p1mpdogg

lol


I can add someone to my list of retarted people.


Luc0nely and smoothcriminal, you have company...

I know better than to piss with KimmyKim. But it has always perplexed me that someone coming from a banking background seems to care neither for the merchant or the consumer. It's a dog eat dog world, I suppose. You certainly have an enlarged set of canines.

please tell me what site you run.. id like to take a look at it.. what do you have to hide?

Do you have ANY involvement in the adult internet? Doesn't sound like it. If you can't do, bitch and cry instead.