Smoke break.

Your command of mathetmatics and statistics is truly admirable. I can see why people feel comfortable sending you their traffic.

you are unreal dude
1st i shave
now my design sucks whats next?

Heh now why doesnt anybody buy vipaccess.com from my brother and I? perfect domain name for this kind of shit.. and hes lookin to sell haha ;)
seriously if anyone is interested, hit me up on email washiez at cybermotives.com

I was backing you up man. I think mpeg is the only one having the problem. He must run one of those super-converting programs like Pipecrew Cash.

Sly's choice of affiliate programs is, of course, impeccable.

Coming to the aid of someone operating on flawed logic is not the best idea. If you like his program, BY ALL MEANS USE IT.

I have never said 'don't use epiccash' I have simply pointed out what I feel are major flaws with the way he runs his program. I did the same to drops, I constantly do the same to sexentertain, and I will do so to any others I run across. Pimpdogg attacks me, I say my piece. God bless the 1st Amendment.

If you run a tight ship you have nothing to worry about from me.

i wasnt lashing at you.. its just frustrating to have some 17 yr old kid say that you shave and talks all this shit with no clue on earth what he is talking about.

:1orglaugh

I love knowing that I'm the only one who finds shitty affiliate programs.

what about CEN, pornkings, megapornbucks,python,etc etc etc.. they all have exit consoles.. what makes me any different?

those are solid programs and highly successful.. whats the problem ?

I may regret putting my two cents up here (I HATE being slammed, so be nice).... But Trey, I get your math. I get the difference. And like someone said above, it all comes down to the checks you get. If you make more money with A over B you stick with A. I think you will do quite well and I wish ya tons of luck with it.

How about your a asshole? :winkwink:

Test..

hello boneprone

thank you Jen.. I think it will do well also.. this is kind of a ritual around here..

you release a site.. and the ppl either love it or hate it.. all the haters will always be haters and remain in moms spare bedroom, while ppl like myself and many others will be buying momz house from them and tearing it down to remove the eye soar.

rodman was the best rebounder in the nba. no skill? are you on crack.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

p1mpdog.
hiot me on ICQ. I wanna send you some traffic

good talking to you sharky.

it is nice to see pimpdog has come from being a spammer to running some quality affilate programs

I'm a stickler for this sort of thing, but you should probably proofread all of your designer's text before you finalize any designs. Grammer and spelling errors can cost you big time. For example:

Here is a few of the bonuses

This should be Here are a few of the bonuses.

That's the only glaring problem I can see...but it's your only major pitch, and it's gramatically wrong.

likewise p1mpdog

As that true or are you blowin smoke?

from what i understand.. he is right on the money. It was just to late for me to do that..

Not exactly.

But if pimp can fleece the various people on GFY, he's a better snake oil salesman than I.

Good God, if you don't want to send traffic, then DON'T. How fucking hard is that?????

If you do, then shut up and send traffic, what is this, rate pimpdoggs business model without even seeing what it is?

So long as you get paid, STFU and send traffic.

looks nice good job p1mpdogg

lol


I can add someone to my list of retarted people.


Luc0nely and smoothcriminal, you have company...

I know better than to piss with KimmyKim. But it has always perplexed me that someone coming from a banking background seems to care neither for the merchant or the consumer. It's a dog eat dog world, I suppose. You certainly have an enlarged set of canines.

please tell me what site you run.. id like to take a look at it.. what do you have to hide?

Do you have ANY involvement in the adult internet? Doesn't sound like it. If you can't do, bitch and cry instead.

Check my signature for more details.

Pimp, I'm not promoting anything on this board, so I have no reason to show anyone my websites. This is a business, why would I tell anyone my business secrets? That is the mark of a fool, not of a 'player' or whatever you call it. If I needed epiccash's help I'd have contacted you already.

Call it what you will, my opinions are what they are. If ya don't like it, well GFY!

yea thats what i thought.

your opinions are welcome although highly inaccurate and misleading. about 40% of what you say is true.. if you are going to bash me atleast tell the truth and not make shit up.

pretty simple really..

Thanks for confirming the expected. You obviously are not involved in the business, and are only here to cry over those more successful than you. Cool. Can't even distinguish between a Trial and a 30 day membership until page 2 LOL.

I couldn't have SCRIPTED irony like this.

Obviously I touched a nerve, let's see some proof big boy.

Look up 'irony' and get back to me. For someone who is 'on time' you certainly are slow on the uptake.

how is it 4.95 for the surfer.

Your trial membership for Members Bonus - One Month Membership will begin as soon as your transaction is complete.
Your price is $4.95 for 30 days.
Thereafter you will be charged $39.84 for every 1 month(s) until cancelled.


looks like a regular pay site to me

That is not normal for a paysite.A three trial is normal for 4.95

You know something mpegposter, I do have an enlarged set of canines, and they go right to the throat of the matter.

It's no ones business how Treys making his money back, as long as you are being paid for your traffic you send in the manner you've both agreed to.

I could run a program, pay 50 bucks a join, not shave a dime from anyone, and make money with it, breaking even very quickly actually.

Of course all the resellers cashing my checks would be crying about how I didn't give them their exits, didnt pay them on dialers, only paid them on checks 7 days after they came in so I could make sure they cleared the bank, and didnt pay them on cross sales, or give them a buck when a surfer gave me his email but not his credit card number.

Affiliates cannot have it both ways. You want a nice 50-50 program that is not marketing aggressively but you get 50% of everything they are doing, that is fine, there are a ton of them out there.

You want to be paid per join no shave, then you simply have to understand that the program owner has to do everything in his power to convert clicks into dollars.

lots of haters Nowadays

amen. quick to question, and quick to avoid questioning.

lame.

nice pimp dog!

you have come a long way in short time and I respect that!

good luck with the site§ :glugglug

Regards
Vegas:drinkup

Looks good Pimpdog, good luck with it.



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huh? whats so good about this site?

The surfer pays $4.95 and when he signs up the button to get access to another site for $39 is also ticked.... and then the membership recurs at $39 per a month anyway...

it will be easy to break even in fact he should make shit loads

So surfer pays $4.95 for 30 days access (thinking it will be this price every month he doesnt cancel)... Recurs at $39.84..

Plus those people who didnt untick the CELEBS box get charged $39.84 after 4 days....

Some that decide to cancel will do so for one site thinking thats all they signed up for while the other rebills and rebills....


So while you take you paltry SIGNUP fee...

the site owner should make a bomb... do affiliates have chargebacks deducted? I hope not.

I'm not following this here.

3rd party stats WOULD BE pimpdogg running on the Epoch bundled affiliate program.

If hes not, then the program is ran locally (by pimpdogg) and Epoch is only in charge of tracking his total sales.

Is it just me or is the conversation between onehunglow and pimpdogg confusing others here?

Hey have you ever thought about a job in the tobacco industry? I think that statement alone could get you a pretty decent executive position :1orglaugh

I have a statement too... if you continually bite the hand that feeds you, eventually they are going to knock you the fuck out.

Now I'm not saying I haven't used or don't continue to use currently 100% legal marketing methods similar to this. But one thing is for sure - we are breeding new kind of adult consumer with all the fine print & surprise charges.

Short term its good for the bankrolls, sure.. but long term, well, someone said it best awhile ago - if we don't police the industry ourselves Visa & the gov will do it for us.

From a marketing standpoint its a good deal though :thumbsup
But I'm thinking in time auto-rebills are going to be taken away from us. Or at least upgrading rebills (trial -> full), I could see them forcing full membership rebills on us.

The 'it's okay because it makes money, shut up and get your checks' argument is so tired I think it's spent most of the 21st century in intensive care.

I realize I'm a minority on this one, but there ARE rights and wrongs in business. Stealing or being deceptive are against the law if a convenience store does it, or a webmaster program does it. The only difference is it's easier to manipulate figures on paper and in binary.

Keep the blinders on, and the situation won't be rosy in the near future. Doesn't take a savvy industry insider to see what will happen when the FTC complaints, spam emails, and lawsuits pile up.

pimpdogg, good luck with the site
:)

exactly...