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Davy · 10-28-2010, 03:31 AM

I am currently testing a CDN. It is one of the big ones.

What I noticed is that no-cache headers are being sent by the CDN.
I find that highly annoying.

The bandwidth is not cheap. I'll need about 5 mbps to serve ads. It would cost me $120 dollar a month to serve those ads from the CDN.

For that kind of money, I could get a dedicated ad server with 10mbps.

And I could even save bandwidth if the right headers are used.
I guess I'll only use the CDN for small files and keep serving those ads from my own server.

Anybody using CDNs? Anybody else annoyed that CDNs send no-cache headers?

BIGTYMER · 10-28-2010, 04:40 AM

With Amazon I'm pritty sure you can turn no-cache on or off.

scouser · 10-28-2010, 04:44 AM

do amazon allow adult content?

Phoenix · 10-28-2010, 04:51 AM

we do our own, and indeed need to do it to be able to properly stream videos

will be expanding on it soon as well

id like to say more, but cant right now

Davy · 10-28-2010, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

With Amazon I'm pritty sure you can turn no-cache on or off.

Amazon is more than twice as expensive as the one I am using. Plus you can't do streaming if you wanted to.
Last time I had a look at amazon, you had to use a set of command line java tools to work with it. That was years ago, but I doubt they have improved on it. So much for easiness of use.

BestXXXPorn · 10-28-2010, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy

I am currently testing a CDN. It is one of the big ones.

What I noticed is that no-cache headers are being sent by the CDN.
I find that highly annoying.

The bandwidth is not cheap. I'll need about 5 mbps to serve ads. It would cost me $120 dollar a month to serve those ads from the CDN.

For that kind of money, I could get a dedicated ad server with 10mbps.

And I could even save bandwidth if the right headers are used.
I guess I'll only use the CDN for small files and keep serving those ads from my own server.

Anybody using CDNs? Anybody else annoyed that CDNs send no-cache headers?

Usually CDNs allow you to set your own cache expiry...

Also your statement about, "for that kind of money" doesn't really make any sense as a CDN is vastly superior to a single dedicated box; that's the point of it :P

BIGTYMER · 10-28-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by deadmoon

do amazon allow adult content?

Yes, as long as its legal.

JOELK · 10-28-2010, 07:21 AM

We use a CDN and it works great even for the price it allows a better user experience.

Si · 10-28-2010, 07:27 AM

What one are you using?

I was looking at this https://www.vps.net/cdn-signup

Davy · 10-28-2010, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

Also your statement about, "for that kind of money" doesn't really make any sense as a CDN is vastly superior to a single dedicated box; that's the point of it :P

It depends. My server sits in the US. I am in Europe.
I compared the CDN with the server and could not find any difference.
Since the majority of my traffic is US, a CDN is not important. Especially if they don't set an expires header.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

I was looking at this

Yes, VPS.net is what I am testing. But they are just a reseller of highwinds.

Anybody know how I can set up origin pull in the StrikeTracker?
All I get is either "origin pull options are not currently configurable for this product" or "origin pull options are not currently configurable for folders below the root".
I know I can tell VPS to set this up, but I wonder if it can be done from the panel.

BestXXXPorn · 10-28-2010, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy

It depends. My server sits in the US. I am in Europe.
I compared the CDN with the server and could not find any difference.
Since the majority of my traffic is US, a CDN is not important. Especially if they don't set an expires header.

True enough, I'd probably look for a CDN that had nodes in Europe as well as the US if you serve a lot of EU traffic :P

BIGTYMER · 10-28-2010, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

True enough, I'd probably look for a CDN that had nodes in Europe as well as the US if you serve a lot of EU traffic :P

Yep. If you're going to spend the money make sure they have good coverage in Europe.

codingainteasy · 10-28-2010, 03:48 PM

you should be just fine with AWS. To enable global coverage enable CloudFront and your content will be distributed. you can set any metadata right through the AWS console, so yes all those options are there. and if you're worried about adult content on amazon, just look at how much is on Tumblr ;)

if you want to rely on actual cached CDN files, you can also go with the rackcloud and their cloudfiles system. super easy to apply a TTL for anything. You also have to remember that with that $150, your ads will probably load faster than the others and potentially bring in more sales. people tend to underestimate the power of CDN served media when it comes to user experience.

desiredusername · 11-26-2010, 06:57 AM

From my perspective there are 2 kinds of people in this world
Canadians and people who wish they were Canadian:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eKLkmTz-kJw

I don't wanna go all Captain Kirk on your ASS

desiredusername · 11-26-2010, 07:00 AM

I'd like to introduce you to my mentally diabled cousins:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ySRf8...eature=related

Davy · 12-04-2010, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiredusername

From my perspective there are 2 kinds of people in this world
Canadians and people who wish they were Canadian:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eKLkmTz-kJw

I don't wanna go all Captain Kirk on your ASS

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiredusername

I'd like to introduce you to my mentally diabled cousins:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ySRf8...eature=related

If there were moderators on this forum, you would so get your ass banned.
Lucky you!

react · 12-04-2010, 08:43 AM

I wasn't impressed with HighWinds. When I looked at them they were using HTTP redirects to geo-direct users to the closest pop to deliver the content, rather than a lower-level, DNS-based solution.

10-28-2010, 03:31 AM	#1
Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	CDN experiences I am currently testing a CDN. It is one of the big ones. What I noticed is that no-cache headers are being sent by the CDN. I find that highly annoying. The bandwidth is not cheap. I'll need about 5 mbps to serve ads. It would cost me $120 dollar a month to serve those ads from the CDN. For that kind of money, I could get a dedicated ad server with 10mbps. And I could even save bandwidth if the right headers are used. I guess I'll only use the CDN for small files and keep serving those ads from my own server. Anybody using CDNs? Anybody else annoyed that CDNs send no-cache headers? __________________ --- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

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JOELK Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 356	We use a CDN and it works great even for the price it allows a better user experience. __________________ Joel Kapp WebmasterCentral.com [email protected] ICQ# 347983177 Skype joel.kapp

11-26-2010, 06:57 AM	#14
desiredusername So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 95	It's CANADIAN DUMBASS From my perspective there are 2 kinds of people in this world Canadians and people who wish they were Canadian: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eKLkmTz-kJw I don't wanna go all Captain Kirk on your ASS

12-04-2010, 08:43 AM	#17
react Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NZ Posts: 673	I wasn't impressed with HighWinds. When I looked at them they were using HTTP redirects to geo-direct users to the closest pop to deliver the content, rather than a lower-level, DNS-based solution. __________________ -- react

10-28-2010, 04:40 AM	#2
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	With Amazon I'm pritty sure you can turn no-cache on or off.

10-28-2010, 04:44 AM	#3
scouser marketer. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: bcn Posts: 2,280	do amazon allow adult content?

10-28-2010, 07:27 AM	#9
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	What one are you using? I was looking at this https://www.vps.net/cdn-signup

10-28-2010, 03:48 PM	#13
codingainteasy Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6	you should be just fine with AWS. To enable global coverage enable CloudFront and your content will be distributed. you can set any metadata right through the AWS console, so yes all those options are there. and if you're worried about adult content on amazon, just look at how much is on Tumblr ;) if you want to rely on actual cached CDN files, you can also go with the rackcloud and their cloudfiles system. super easy to apply a TTL for anything. You also have to remember that with that $150, your ads will probably load faster than the others and potentially bring in more sales. people tend to underestimate the power of CDN served media when it comes to user experience.

11-26-2010, 07:00 AM	#15
desiredusername So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 95	I'd like to introduce you to my mentally diabled cousins: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ySRf8...eature=related