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Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 06:32 PM

Just for the record...

I don't like TGP's or what they stand for. But I own a network of them.

I HATE FREE PORN! But I give away thousands of free pics daily to surfers.

I get sick at the thought of newbs being able to easily start a new TGP and saturate the market further with free shit, but I own paysites and they all get a good amount of traffic from TGPs.

Why?

Because it's making my pockets fatter.

Convince me that there is an easier, faster, and more efficient way to get signups to my paysites and I'll get rid of all my TGP's, and won't accept TGP traffic to my paysites anymore! Convince me that waiting around 6 months to POSSIBLY get a good ranking on a SE is better than submitting galleries and listing my sites on my TGP network. PROVE to me you can have a paysite in today's market that does NOT get ANY tgp traffic and still remain a competitive entity. Show me you can totally ignore TGP's without using EMAIL SPAM and still turn a huge profit and get thousands of members.

Show me ONE big player who does this, and convince me it's a viable option. I beg of you.

I've been in the biz since 96, and I would LOVE to see shit go back to the way it USED to be... solid link trades, viable search engine positioning, and QUALITY traffic. But it's never gonna happen.

Hell, even PK has a TGP now. What's the fuckin alternative. Really.

Ho0k-UpS · 01-12-2003, 06:34 PM

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Juicy D. Links · 01-12-2003, 06:37 PM

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Theo · 01-12-2003, 06:38 PM

why would someone want to make you his competitor?
think about it

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
why would someone want to make you his competitor?
think about it

Who am I going to compete with? There's no big players out there that reject TGP traffic these days. So there's no one to compete with.

KRL · 01-12-2003, 06:41 PM

There is a way. Its called advertising and publicity. The first takes money and the second doesn't. Both work if you know how to do them and also buy media wisely.

Theo · 01-12-2003, 06:42 PM

by revealing a webmaster his traffic sources and how he deals with them he automatically makes you a potential competitor and in your case: a sure competitor

Marcus · 01-12-2003, 06:53 PM

I took out an expensive print ad to promote a site and didn't get shit.

hth

Lethal · 01-12-2003, 06:55 PM

Thousands of little classified ads in newspapers across the country.

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
There is a way. Its called advertising and publicity. The first takes money and the second doesn't. Both work if you know how to do them and also buy media wisely.

Yep. But they don't replace TGP advertising for sheer profitability. Expense vs. Income.

Fact is, in today's net, there simply isn't a more effective way to get instant low-cost / high recognition advertising. I don't like it any more than you guys do, but let's call a spade a spade.

If you're gonna blame anyone for this explosion of TGP newbs, and all the saturation of free porn... point your finger at the paysite industry. We make it EASY for TGP owners to make galleries and profit from them. If paysites didn't offer the free content and hosted galleries, TGP owners would have to work a little harder, and there wouldn't be so many of them.

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lethal
Thousands of little classified ads in newspapers across the country.

Actually worked for my 900 business back in the day. Not so good for porn.

jimmyf · 01-12-2003, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lethal
Thousands of little classified ads in newspapers across the country.

Billboards, in all the big city's.
http://johnnyJohnsonrepairtrailers.net and redirect it 2
http://fuckmypussybigboy.com

quiet · 01-12-2003, 07:08 PM

god damn i love traffic.

jojojo · 01-12-2003, 07:08 PM

well this is just the beginning of the hosted gallery war so I wouldn't expect much pullback from sponsors.

I am trying to build a base of bookmarkers that have never been exposed to regular shit tgp traffic. It is working so far and these guys buy - 1000 hits to a gallery to get a sale (not click thrus) but I am dealing with only movies.

Get your traffic from everywhere but tgps and go from there - then we can build a NON-TGP traffic network of sites and all trade together privately.

If only there was a way to do something with the existing pool of shit tgp freeloading surfers.

jojojo · 01-12-2003, 07:10 PM

actually I meant a base of qulaity bookmarkers that have never been exposed to a 'good tgp'

Lethal · 01-12-2003, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
god damn i love traffic.

Word.

Tipsy · 01-12-2003, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357

Fact is, in today's net, there simply isn't a more effective way to get instant low-cost / high recognition advertising. I don't like it any more than you guys do, but let's call a spade a spade.

What a strange notion.

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo
actually I meant a base of qulaity bookmarkers that have never been exposed to a 'good tgp'

How do you know that for sure though? I mean, if they are on the net, they're gonna find the HUN. It's all over once they do. They're no longer 'quality bookmarkers'. Well, maybe for the Hun they are, but that's about it.

There's no way to keep a surfer "pure". He's gonna see AL4A or the Hun eventually unless you keep him in a bottle.

MonkeyMan · 01-12-2003, 07:18 PM

You do realize that the hun is not the master of the universe, there are TGPs larger than the hun. And some of the stuff he posts is kinda gross.

Theo · 01-12-2003, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan
there are TGPs larger than the hun.

like which one?

MonkeyMan · 01-12-2003, 07:23 PM

http://al4a.com/
http://www.worldsex.com/
http://sublimedirectory.com/
http://book-mark.net/
http://xxxvogue.net/
http://madthumbs.com/

and on some days

http://richards-realm.com/
http://freetopsex.com/

*(I'm talking Unique visitors)

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan
You do realize that the hun is not the master of the universe, there are TGPs larger than the hun. And some of the stuff he posts is kinda gross.

Larger than the Hun? Traffic-wise? If that's true, they're not doing a very good job getting the word out to webmasters, because last I heard, Hun got the most traffic of any single TGP. Followed a close second by Worldsex.

But that's just an example anyway to make my point.

You can't keep any surfer looking for porn away from TGP's.

Spunky · 01-12-2003, 07:26 PM

Your wasting your breath dude..Nobody gives away top secret information.There are webmasters who make millions but wouldnt give you 2 dollars of useful information.I'm surprised you havent been regarded as Useless Shit TGP traffic,as some people here fear TGP'S and resort to name calling and childish games.

MonkeyMan · 01-12-2003, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Larger than the Hun? Traffic-wise? If that's true, they're not doing a very good job getting the word out to webmasters, because last I heard, Hun got the most traffic of any single TGP. Followed a close second by Worldsex.

They already get too many submissions... why would they need to "get the word out"?? Think damnit.

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan
http://al4a.com/
http://www.worldsex.com/
http://sublimedirectory.com/
http://book-mark.net/
http://xxxvogue.net/
http://madthumbs.com/

and on some days

http://richards-realm.com/
http://freetopsex.com/

*(I'm talking Unique visitors)

NONE of those sites individually get more uniques than the Hun man. I don't know where you got your info from.

I'm not a fan of the Hun or a supporter, but Mad Thumbs? Even that webmaster will tell you that he doesn't get more than the Hun.

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan

They already get too many submissions... why would they need to "get the word out"?? Think damnit.

Are you high right now or something?

MonkeyMan · 01-12-2003, 07:30 PM

Maybe the data was based On clicks not U. Visitor...but the fact remains the Hun is not THE biggest. Sorry.

G. Man your a jackass. You start a retarded thread then when I give you facts you call me high and say im wrong. Go fuck yourself moron.

Tipsy · 01-12-2003, 07:30 PM

Worldsex has often given the hun a run for his money purley based on counter stats but to say all those sites get more is misguided at best.

FlyingIguana · 01-12-2003, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lethal
Thousands of little classified ads in newspapers across the country.

i just had flashbacks of don lapre....

quiet · 01-12-2003, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan
Maybe the data was based On clicks not U. Visitor...but the fact remains the Hun is not THE biggest. Sorry.

G. Man your a jackass. You start a retarded thread then when I give you facts you call me high and say im wrong. Go fuck yourself moron.

lol. jesus you're an idiot. the hun is indeed the biggest tgp in terms of uniques. duh.

quiet · 01-12-2003, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Worldsex has often given the hun a run for his money purley based on counter stats but to say all those sites get more is misguided at best.

yeah. i remember either just before or just after cor sold it, they were very close. ws would actually go to number one for a couple days at a time, on and off.

MonkeyMan · 01-12-2003, 07:35 PM

And how do you know this troll?

EDIT:
"Quiet is not a troll."
I retract all "quiet is a troll" statments. I reserve the right to reinstate my "Quiet is a troll" status at any time.

Lethal · 01-12-2003, 07:40 PM

MonkeyMan you really are a 'tard.

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan
Maybe the data was based On clicks not U. Visitor...but the fact remains the Hun is not THE biggest. Sorry.

G. Man your a jackass. You start a retarded thread then when I give you facts you call me high and say im wrong. Go fuck yourself moron.

The thread wasn't retarded until you decided to post.

But you're right. I am a jackass. Among other things.

Theo · 01-12-2003, 07:47 PM

MonkeyMan,what's your info source that the hun is not the largest tgp? Sextracker stats say the opposite. It's larger in uniques,bookmarkers and impressions

MonkeyMan · 01-12-2003, 07:52 PM

I checked the info and its the total Monthly hits from each site. So yes in a way I will admit I was wrong and not checking my facts correctly.... its the total unique hits to a gallery over the course of one month.

but still it does kinda mean that if you get listed on one of the ones I mentioned you will get more hits over the course of a month.

Also the data is from sep. 2002 so I will eat a big fucking crow. MMMMMMMK.

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
MonkeyMan,what's your info source that the hun is not the largest tgp? Sextracker stats say the opposite. It's larger in uniques,bookmarkers and impressions

He bases his "facts" on the bitter taste left in his mouth from having his galleries denied so many times from the Hun.

MonkeyMan · 01-12-2003, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
He bases his "facts" on the bitter taste left in his mouth from having his galleries denied so many times from the Hun.

I dont submit galleries to the hun you twink, And don't talk to other people about me... If you got somthign to say direct it at me you pussy.

Tipsy · 01-12-2003, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan

I dont submit galleries to the hun you twink, And don't talk to other people about me... If you got somthign to say direct it at me you pussy.

Rather angry little man aren't you? You can get therapy to help with anger management these days. If that's a bit too expensive some quality weed often has the same effect.

MonkeyMan · 01-12-2003, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Rather angry little man aren't you? You can get therapy to help with anger management these days. If that's a bit too expensive some quality weed often has the same effect.

1. I'm 6'5
2. Therapists said theres nothing wrong with me
3. Weed makes you slow in the head

But I'll admit I fly off the handle on forums.... becasue of the hundreds of 12 year old punks I've dealt with on the many forums I visit. So I often assume I'm dealing with people who understand nothing but ignorant flaming, wich I am now guilty of. I said I'd eat crow becasue my original facts were incorrect. The retarded flaming was NOT started by me, although I did participate.

Tipsy · 01-12-2003, 08:15 PM

Hmmm...the word little never was meant as an indication of height

Certainly looks like you were mildly abusive from the start to me and then got even more pissed when people retaliated. Oh well - not really my thread and of little concern other than having the chance to get a cheap jibe in

quiet · 01-12-2003, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan
its the total unique hits to a gallery over the course of one month.

so on top of all your incorrect and outdated claims, you were looking at how many hits were sent to a gallery in order to determine the amount of traffic a tgp has?

too funny.

Gman.357 · 01-12-2003, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan

1. I'm 6'5
2. Therapists said theres nothing wrong with me
3. Weed makes you slow in the head

But I'll admit I fly off the handle on forums.... becasue of the hundreds of 12 year old punks I've dealt with on the many forums I visit. So I often assume I'm dealing with people who understand nothing but ignorant flaming, wich I am now guilty of. I said I'd eat crow becasue my original facts were incorrect. The retarded flaming was NOT started by me, although I did participate.

At least take responsibility for starting the pissing man! I asked if you were high. Legit question. You respond with "you're such an asshole" and "retard".

If you can't take a little sarcasm why the fuck do you post on this board? Especially with incorrect information you can't back up.

I admit I'm an asshole, but I'm only mildly retarded.

jojojo · 01-12-2003, 08:57 PM

Quote:

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Originally posted by jojojo
actually I meant a base of qulaity bookmarkers that have never been exposed to a 'good tgp'
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How do you know that for sure though? I mean, if they are on the net, they're gonna find the HUN. It's all over once they do. They're no longer 'quality bookmarkers'. Well, maybe for the Hun they are, but that's about it.

There's no way to keep a surfer "pure". He's gonna see AL4A or the Hun eventually unless you keep him in a bottle.

Because if a surfer visits my site from an SE or a LL and bookmarks it and comes back they 90% likely have not seen a real tgp because mine is shitty from a surfers perspective and they wouldn't bother ever coming back if they saw a real tgp prior to this, and if they find one later and never return to mine? Oh well - but if they are stupid enoigh to think that what I am offering is as much as you get on the net - why would they waste their time looking? And regardless of this spoiling down the road - I'm doin my best to keep them in my bottle

and my increasing daily bookmarkers is proof that I have trapped a bunch of SE surfing cc bearing newbs into a 1996 timewarp of free porn and that is why I am seeing such amazing conversions - we will see where things are in the future tho

01-12-2003, 06:32 PM	#1
Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	Fuck TGP's?? Show me the light!! Just for the record... I don't like TGP's or what they stand for. But I own a network of them. I HATE FREE PORN! But I give away thousands of free pics daily to surfers. I get sick at the thought of newbs being able to easily start a new TGP and saturate the market further with free shit, but I own paysites and they all get a good amount of traffic from TGPs. Why? Because it's making my pockets fatter. Convince me that there is an easier, faster, and more efficient way to get signups to my paysites and I'll get rid of all my TGP's, and won't accept TGP traffic to my paysites anymore! Convince me that waiting around 6 months to POSSIBLY get a good ranking on a SE is better than submitting galleries and listing my sites on my TGP network. PROVE to me you can have a paysite in today's market that does NOT get ANY tgp traffic and still remain a competitive entity. Show me you can totally ignore TGP's without using EMAIL SPAM and still turn a huge profit and get thousands of members. Show me ONE big player who does this, and convince me it's a viable option. I beg of you. I've been in the biz since 96, and I would LOVE to see shit go back to the way it USED to be... solid link trades, viable search engine positioning, and QUALITY traffic. But it's never gonna happen. Hell, even PK has a TGP now. What's the fuckin alternative. Really.

01-12-2003, 06:41 PM	#6
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01-12-2003, 07:08 PM	#13
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	god damn i love traffic. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

01-12-2003, 07:08 PM	#14
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	well this is just the beginning of the hosted gallery war so I wouldn't expect much pullback from sponsors. I am trying to build a base of bookmarkers that have never been exposed to regular shit tgp traffic. It is working so far and these guys buy - 1000 hits to a gallery to get a sale (not click thrus) but I am dealing with only movies. Get your traffic from everywhere but tgps and go from there - then we can build a NON-TGP traffic network of sites and all trade together privately. If only there was a way to do something with the existing pool of shit tgp freeloading surfers. __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

01-12-2003, 07:10 PM	#15
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	actually I meant a base of qulaity bookmarkers that have never been exposed to a 'good tgp' __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

01-12-2003, 06:34 PM	#2
Ho0k-UpS Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 98	be an 7227 spam haXor like me! 250 sign upsz a day babee

01-12-2003, 06:37 PM	#3
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I have the biggest cock on GFY

01-12-2003, 06:38 PM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	why would someone want to make you his competitor? think about it

01-12-2003, 06:42 PM	#7
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	by revealing a webmaster his traffic sources and how he deals with them he automatically makes you a potential competitor and in your case: a sure competitor

01-12-2003, 06:53 PM	#8
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	I took out an expensive print ad to promote a site and didn't get shit. hth

01-12-2003, 06:55 PM	#9
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	Thousands of little classified ads in newspapers across the country.

01-12-2003, 07:18 PM	#19
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	You do realize that the hun is not the master of the universe, there are TGPs larger than the hun. And some of the stuff he posts is kinda gross.

01-12-2003, 07:23 PM	#21
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	http://al4a.com/ http://www.worldsex.com/ http://sublimedirectory.com/ http://book-mark.net/ http://xxxvogue.net/ http://madthumbs.com/ and on some days http://richards-realm.com/ http://freetopsex.com/ *(I'm talking Unique visitors)

01-12-2003, 07:26 PM	#23
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,944	Your wasting your breath dude..Nobody gives away top secret information.There are webmasters who make millions but wouldnt give you 2 dollars of useful information.I'm surprised you havent been regarded as Useless Shit TGP traffic,as some people here fear TGP'S and resort to name calling and childish games. __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

01-12-2003, 07:30 PM	#27
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	Maybe the data was based On clicks not U. Visitor...but the fact remains the Hun is not THE biggest. Sorry. G. Man your a jackass. You start a retarded thread then when I give you facts you call me high and say im wrong. Go fuck yourself moron.

01-12-2003, 07:30 PM	#28
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Worldsex has often given the hun a run for his money purley based on counter stats but to say all those sites get more is misguided at best. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

01-12-2003, 07:35 PM	#32
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	And how do you know this troll? EDIT: "Quiet is not a troll." I retract all "quiet is a troll" statments. I reserve the right to reinstate my "Quiet is a troll" status at any time. Last edited by MonkeyMan; 01-12-2003 at 07:54 PM..

01-12-2003, 07:40 PM	#33
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	MonkeyMan you really are a 'tard.

01-12-2003, 07:47 PM	#35
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	MonkeyMan,what's your info source that the hun is not the largest tgp? Sextracker stats say the opposite. It's larger in uniques,bookmarkers and impressions

01-12-2003, 07:52 PM	#36
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	I checked the info and its the total Monthly hits from each site. So yes in a way I will admit I was wrong and not checking my facts correctly.... its the total unique hits to a gallery over the course of one month. but still it does kinda mean that if you get listed on one of the ones I mentioned you will get more hits over the course of a month. Also the data is from sep. 2002 so I will eat a big fucking crow. MMMMMMMK.

01-12-2003, 08:15 PM	#41
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Hmmm...the word little never was meant as an indication of height Certainly looks like you were mildly abusive from the start to me and then got even more pissed when people retaliated. Oh well - not really my thread and of little concern other than having the chance to get a cheap jibe in __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.