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TheFLY · 01-12-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

I have nothing to lose from choker. His traffic is shit.
you are on his side, because you are following in his footsteps by making the same scripts that he is making. You are nothing special in this business mr.fly so dont act like it. You took his idea and redesigned it. you are a follower.

Ignorance is bliss.

JamesK · 01-12-2003, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

You just insulted everyone that buys traffic from him. Smooth move. Anyway that's the way it should be -- you buy some traffic -- if you want more -- you buy more... Choker sells traffic for about the same price that he buys it LOL... This is not about ratios -- Choker didn't invent traffic... He just provided a structured marketplace in the context of the gallery -- which is by far the most ubiquitous mode for traffic to exchange hands for webmaster and surfer.

You have a lot to lose -- that's why you are pissed -- you would be happy with biz as usual -- "We send you traffic for free and hope that the check is in the mail" -- bullshit! -- soon everyone w/ traffic will be paid up front... that's the way it's headed.

It's your job to make the sale -- it's Choker's job to produce traffic. If you can't convert Choker's traffic -- who the fuck cares? That's your problem and your problem alone.

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p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Ignorance is bliss.

uhh yea.

Ray@TastyDollars · 01-12-2003, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

you buy some traffic -- if you want more -- you buy more... Choker sells traffic for about the same price that he buys it LOL... This is not about ratios -- Choker didn't invent traffic... He just provided a structured marketplace in the context of the gallery

well said Fly!

JamesK · 01-12-2003, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

uhh yea.

get a life cocksucking bitch

p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Wildcard

get a life cocksucking bitch

heh

Kick Ass Chat · 01-12-2003, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

You just insulted everyone that buys traffic from him. Smooth move. Anyway that's the way it should be -- you buy some traffic -- if you want more -- you buy more... Choker sells traffic for about the same price that he buys it LOL... This is not about ratios -- Choker didn't invent traffic... He just provided a structured marketplace in the context of the gallery -- which is by far the most ubiquitous mode for traffic to exchange hands for webmaster and surfer.

You have a lot to lose -- that's why you are pissed -- you would be happy with biz as usual -- "We send you traffic for free and hope that the check is in the mail" -- bullshit! -- soon everyone w/ traffic will be paid up front... that's the way it's headed.

It's your job to make the sale -- it's Choker's job to produce traffic. If you can't convert Choker's traffic -- who the fuck cares? That's your problem and your problem alone.

Fly, you have some valid points. Well first of all, all the big traffic sources do get paid up front, and it's been that way from way back in the mid 90's when I started. But this current pimpdog, choker deal is wrong. Choker is backing out of a Valid traffic offer??...that is just wrong,....If he spams his traffic programs, and a potential customer is willing to make a purchase, then he should accept it??..or am I missing something here?

p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by GirlsFreePics

Fly, you have some valid points. Well first of all, all the big traffic sources do get paid up front, and it's been that way from way back in the mid 90's when I started. But this current pimpdog, choker deal is wrong. Choker is backing out of a Valid traffic offer??...that is just wrong,....If he spams his traffic programs, and a potential customer is willing to make a purchase, then he should accept it??..or am I missing something here?

you are just missing the part that chokers traffic wont work on sponsors.. it only works on trades and circle jerks. Thats why he is affraid to sell to me.

deleteduser · 01-12-2003, 11:31 AM

i think we have another gfy drama here

BJ · 01-12-2003, 11:33 AM

everything ever posted on this board in regrds to chokers traffic has been positive if I recall the past year correctly

p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by PureMeds
everything ever posted on this board in regrds to chokers traffic has been positive if I recall the past year correctly

positive for who? a tgp trade or a sponsor?
I dont deny its good for tgp crap.. but for a sponsor it pretty much sucks ass.

JamesK · 01-12-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

you are just missing the part that chokers traffic wont work on sponsors.. it only works on trades and circle jerks. Thats why he is affraid to sell to me.

lol dude, choker just doesnt have time for dumbasses like you. accept it.

Kick Ass Chat · 01-12-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by CeKilleR
i think we have another gfy drama here

It's not really a drama. This particular situation is pretty cut and dry. Choker spams his traffic program here, and that is totally fine, But a new potential customer (pimpdog) is offering to buy 100k prepaid traffic, and choker is declining to do the deal??....so what is up with that??....Not good biz in my book....

p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Wildcard

lol dude, choker just doesnt have time for dumbasses like you. accept it.

you stupid bitch.. its dumbasses like me that feed his family and make him money. I am a customer.. wether im a fucking prick or mary popins.. I give him money.

your logic is about as useful as the country you are from..

BJ · 01-12-2003, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

positive for who? a tgp trade or a sponsor?
I dont deny its good for tgp crap.. but for a sponsor it pretty much sucks ass.

I was only saying that regardless of whatever the problem people are having with him, every post in regards to his traffic has been good which would indicate its profitable for whoever is buying it.

Kick Ass Chat · 01-12-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by PureMeds

I was only saying that regardless of whatever the problem people are having with him, every post in regards to his traffic has been good which would indicate its profitable for whoever is buying it.

Where are these people you say have good positive things to say???...I don't see any of them ???.... If the traffic is good, then he should take pimpdogs offer to buy 100k, and post the results...Plain and simple !!!

TheFLY · 01-12-2003, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by GirlsFreePics

Fly, you have some valid points. Well first of all, all the big traffic sources do get paid up front, and it's been that way from way back in the mid 90's when I started. But this current pimpdog, choker deal is wrong. Choker is backing out of a Valid traffic offer??...that is just wrong,....If he spams his traffic programs, and a potential customer is willing to make a purchase, then he should accept it??..or am I missing something here?

Yes, big traffic sources. Because before the software wasn't there to negotiate/manage all the multitudes of small/large scale traffic deals -- when you buy from Choker you're getting a mix of traffic from hundreds of sites of all sizes... This is new technology.

Not that I care -- but I don't see Choker backing out. I don't think p1mpdog is blacklisted from the Choker system yet

The instructions are set out on Choker's site to buy -- and Choker has his own message board... what's the problem?

TheFLY · 01-12-2003, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

positive for who? a tgp trade or a sponsor?
I dont deny its good for tgp crap.. but for a sponsor it pretty much sucks ass.

Mental Note: EpicCash can't convert TGP traffic... LOL

p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Mental Note: EpicCash can't convert TGP traffic... LOL

says you.

deleteduser · 01-12-2003, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

you stupid bitch.. its dumbasses like me that feed his family and make him money. I am a customer.. wether im a fucking prick or mary popins.. I give him money.

your logic is about as useful as the country you are from..

why run your mouth like this?!

p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by CeKilleR

why run your mouth like this?!

read the entire thread before you spout off.

cafeaulait · 01-12-2003, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

1:8000 with choker is great.. 1:8000 in the real world is pure shit.

you are getting fucked.

girls free pics.. exactly. He wouldnt know a smart business move if it came upto him, and slapped him in the face or spit in his eye. he is just some hillbilly twink with a 486 in his moms basement trying to make a few bucks to pay for dads new leg.

choker sucks and IS hiding, he has no reason not to sell to me.. unless his traffic is pure shit. which it is.

haha choker rocks!

Pimp, don't just hate, do the math:

1:8000 conversion - you said this yourself.

8000 uniques costs $8 with Choker's system (min buy 50k = $50)

1 conversion earns $40 with Adult Platinum.

40 - 8 = $32 total profit

So who is "getting fucked" ? I don't understand your point.

jimmyf · 01-12-2003, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

It's your job to make the sale -- it's Choker's job to produce traffic. If you can't convert Choker's traffic -- who the fuck cares? That's your problem and your problem alone.

This has been my thoughts from day one. People say will you have a teen gallery and mature banners. Well the surfer clicked on the mature banner, why did they click on it? I also think 250 to 300 RAW click's you should be getting a sign up, if you don't change the sponsor. I will let'm go until 500 or 600 sometimes.

p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by cafeaulait

Pimp, don't just hate, do the math:

1:8000 conversion - you said this yourself.

8000 uniques costs $8 with Choker's system (min buy 50k = $50)

1 conversion earns $40 with Adult Platinum.

40 - 8 = $32 total profit

So who is "getting fucked" ? I don't understand your point.

my 1:8000 was just a guess.. I have heard it did worse.. but who cares.. this isnt the point. the point is, I had a valid offer for him that could help out by posting the results and he refuses.. it would be great advertising for him if his traffic was actually profitable.

kelly · 01-12-2003, 11:54 AM

All personal feelings aside, I would think that if Choker has faith in his traffic he would love to take this deal and you guys can post real results rather than all this speculation, just think - if this traffic converted decently wouldn't we all be jumping up and paying for your traffic?

deleteduser · 01-12-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

read the entire thread before you spout off.

i did. you sound like a angry little monkey =) why so aggressive?

jimmyf · 01-12-2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by GirlsFreePics

Fly, you have some valid points. Well first of all, all the big traffic sources do get paid up front, and it's been that way from way back in the mid 90's when I started. But this current pimpdog, choker deal is wrong. Choker is backing out of a Valid traffic offer??...that is just wrong,....If he spams his traffic programs, and a potential customer is willing to make a purchase, then he should accept it??..or am I missing something here?

Not one thing wrong with Chocker not wanting 2 do business with Pimpdog, it's his business. I've done the same thing in a main stream business for years, I've given people there money back because I changed my mind and didn't want there business.

NO he should ** NOT ** accept it, if doesn't want Pimpdogs business, NO fucking way.

TrafficTeam · 01-12-2003, 12:02 PM

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angry little monkey

cafeaulait · 01-12-2003, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

my 1:8000 was just a guess.. I have heard it did worse.. but who cares.. this isnt the point. the point is, I had a valid offer for him that could help out by posting the results and he refuses.. it would be great advertising for him if his traffic was actually profitable.

Okay, understood, but remember it could get as bad as 1:35000 and you could still turn a $5 profit on his system with a typical sposor like AP.

I have no doubt the Hun traffic may be better than Choker's but surely that's why he charges $500 for a 24hr top spot and Choker charges $1 / 1000 hits. I really don't think we are comparing apples with apples here.

If you do this kind of test you have use the real figures, such as:

- How many uniques did you HUN gallery get from the listing?
- How much did you pay for the listing?
- How much did you earn?

etc. etc. etc.

Then do exactly the same with Choker's traffic.

Why do you need his "permission" to sell you his traffic? Just go to the site and buy it like everyone else does, or get someone to buy it for you.

I'll do it for you if you want with my account, then you don't even have to bother opening an account. Send me your gallery URL then I'll get it approved and buy you 100k uniques for $75, you can then Paypal me the cash at your leisure, I know your name is good from these boards.

Whatdya think? Worth a try, I'm as interested in the results as you, it would be great to find out once and for all.

Cheers.

G

Rich · 01-12-2003, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by cafeaulait

Pimp, don't just hate, do the math:

1:8000 conversion - you said this yourself.

8000 uniques costs $8 with Choker's system (min buy 50k = $50)

1 conversion earns $40 with Adult Platinum.

40 - 8 = $32 total profit

So who is "getting fucked" ? I don't understand your point.

Ok, wake up fully before posting. He's talking about 1:8000 clicks to the sponsor I'm sure, not one sale every 8000 hits to the gallery. Say you're pulling 5% clicks from the gallery, that's 160k from choker per sale. Sounds about right too me. Everyone who has good things to say about his traffic only uses it to trade to other sites, not make sales. Wheather he knows it or not, most of his traffic is of the robot race, as opposed to real human surfers.

alias · 01-12-2003, 12:43 PM

Yeah I was going to suggest having someone purchase the traffic for you PD.

Triple 6 · 01-12-2003, 12:43 PM

and that shoud be that.

Rich · 01-12-2003, 12:45 PM

Do it pimpdog, buy 100k and post your results here. Use a proven gallery that sells well with other tgps, Then post your results here. I'm guessing 1 sale, or none.

Za Ha · 01-12-2003, 12:56 PM

Hey idiot stop wasting chockers time so he can approve galleries faster and ppl who know what they are doing can actually make money!

His traffic is really good. Im gonna make a few more gals and if that goes as good as it has been going I might buy a new category (if possible).

Chockers traffic is better then anyone elses and if you cant make money from him then you are an idiot!

gotys · 01-12-2003, 12:57 PM

Hello

Jakke PNG · 01-12-2003, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
Do it pimpdog, buy 100k and post your results here. Use a proven gallery that sells well with other tgps, Then post your results here. I'm guessing 1 sale, or none.

Why the bad attitude? have you tried choker? Why do ppl bash without trying. I did very well myself. I had 12 sales to adult platinum from 133k hits from choker. I'm not complaining at all. Why don't you make a gallery, buy traffic.. and if you can't make your money back + intrest, come here to bash him or go flip burgers.
It's the same with pimpdog, ppl here bash his epiccash, and probably haven't either tried it.. try it before you bash. goddamnit.

cafeaulait · 01-12-2003, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by Rich

Ok, wake up fully before posting. He's talking about 1:8000 clicks to the sponsor I'm sure, not one sale every 8000 hits to the gallery. Say you're pulling 5% clicks from the gallery, that's 160k from choker per sale. Sounds about right too me. Everyone who has good things to say about his traffic only uses it to trade to other sites, not make sales. Wheather he knows it or not, most of his traffic is of the robot race, as opposed to real human surfers.

So when the guy I wrote this msg TO replied to it, why didn't he point out this oversight!?!

Nope he just said "1:8000 was a guess" , I am so awake

gotys · 01-12-2003, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

Why the bad attitude? have you tried choker? Why do ppl bash without trying. I did very well myself. I had 12 sales to adult platinum from 133k hits from choker. I'm not complaining at all. Why don't you make a gallery, buy traffic.. and if you can't make your money back + intrest, come here to bash him or go flip burgers.
It's the same with pimpdog, ppl here bash his epiccash, and probably haven't either tried it.. try it before you bash. goddamnit.

People won't try epic cash because people don't like doing bussiness with immature kids

SleazyDream · 01-12-2003, 01:22 PM

had choker not done the public pissing post he'd have looked GOLDEN in this, but now they both look bad.

It's sad. I was hoping one would rise above the other but it didn't seem to happen.

Jakke PNG · 01-12-2003, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by gotys

People won't try epic cash because people don't like doing bussiness with immature kids

That's not true! I have plenty of customers!

p1mpdogg · 01-12-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by gotys

People won't try epic cash because people don't like doing bussiness with immature kids

lol.. comming from you i take that as a compliment.

JackFoley · 01-12-2003, 01:38 PM

Pimpdog, you say TheFly is a follower because he's working on a system similar to Choker's... but what's so innovative about running a paysite? I think I've seen one or two of those before.

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Originally posted by Rich
Ok, wake up fully before posting. He's talking about 1:8000 clicks to the sponsor I'm sure, not one sale every 8000 hits to the gallery.

Apparently you need to wake up and read the post where little2rich4u2 said they made 1 sale for every 8000 hits to the gallery.

Za Ha · 01-12-2003, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by gotys
...because people don't like doing bussiness with immature kids

True, Im the only exception to that rule.

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Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Do it pimpdog, buy 100k and post your results here. Use a proven gallery that sells well with other tgps, Then post your results here. I'm guessing 1 sale, or none.

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Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	Hey idiot stop wasting chockers time so he can approve galleries faster and ppl who know what they are doing can actually make money! His traffic is really good. Im gonna make a few more gals and if that goes as good as it has been going I might buy a new category (if possible). Chockers traffic is better then anyone elses and if you cant make money from him then you are an idiot!

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