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Si · 10-15-2010, 09:15 AM

100 scammy bastards

SmokeyTheBear · 10-15-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyMN

we updated the public terms (the ones you agree to when you join) but have overlooked a 'copy' of the terms which is on show in the affiliate area, this will be fixed and only one copy of the terms will be accessible moving forwards.

sorry but that sounds like you fucked up and expect your affiliates to suffer because of your fuckup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

An email was sent to affiliates alerting them to the change of terms.

sorry but that is unacceptable. if you are going to change terms to seize money people earned and were promised under your old terms , you should have implemented a system that webmasters AGREE to the new terms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

This process is in place to protect our business for accumulating large debtors and has been approved by both our lawyers and accountants.

i have a process in place to protect myself from accumulating large debtors too, i pay them. It is a novel idea, just might work.

Do your lawyers or accountants send you sales ? then i would expect you get approval from the people MAKING you money , not the people taking your money

just a suggestion though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

This process is in place to protect our active affiliates and ensure we can continue to pay the large commissions that we do.

cmon now, thats a load of horseshit, how does this "protect active affiliates" in ANY way.
Not much comfort knowing you are paying new affiliates with money seized from old affiliates. kind of a ponzi scheme isn't it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

ANY affiliate network which does not have a similar process in place is just asking for trouble and maybe they do not have the handle on their accounts which we do.

what kind of process would that be ? the one where you have 2 different terms, the one where your affiliates aren't aware of tos changes ? The only time my accounts have EVER been closed due to inactivity from any sponsor i have been sent a check with the current amount due.

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Originally Posted by AndyMN

We pay over 200 affiliates every two weeks without fail

i think if you are going to quote how many affiliates you pay it is only fair you post how many people don't get paid .

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Originally Posted by AndyMN

we always pay ALL affiliates as per our terms and we do guarantee every payout (again according to our terms).

that is not much of a guarantee if the true disclaimer is " unless we change the terms tomorrow and decide not to pay you because our lawyers and accountants say its cool "

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Originally Posted by AndyMN

as a good will gesture I will be willing to send this to you, please email me your payment details.

Thanks.

this last quote is the ONLY thing you should have said in this thread

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 10-15-2010, 09:50 AM

Has anyone had any issues with SellHealth's program? I have been looking at both. Was considering pushing both, but I'll probably stick with SH for now if the feedback from affiliates there is mostly positive...

u-Bob · 10-15-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Has anyone had any issues with SellHealth's program? I have been looking at both. Was considering pushing both, but I'll probably stick with SH for now if the feedback from affiliates there is mostly positive...

am hungry, need food, so I'll keep it short: SH rocks.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 10-15-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

am hungry, need food, so I'll keep it short: SH rocks.

That's all I need to hear.

A couple more confirmations and I'll be comfortable moving forward with my plans.

Atticus · 10-15-2010, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

This process is in place to protect our business for accumulating large debtors and has been approved by both our lawyers and accountants.

This process is in place to protect our active affiliates and ensure we can continue to pay the large commissions that we do.

ANY affiliate network which does not have a similar process in place is just asking for trouble and maybe they do not have the handle on their accounts which we do.

Mind going into a little more detail on this? How does that policy protect active affiliates?

And if its such a concern how many accounts with money owed do you deactivate every year? In this reply you make it sound like its a sizeable sum.

Somebody should create a GFY Bullshit HOF. Every year people can nominate quotes from sponsors and then the community can vote on what BS response makes the cut.

Phoenix66 · 10-15-2010, 10:30 AM

Just logged in to grab links and give a try to some of the new products and found out they swindled out of 69 bucks for the sale that was made in 2007 lol I did not even know it was there...

pornpf69 · 10-15-2010, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

Hi Guys,

First of all I am very sorry about the delay in posting here, I have only just been informed about the thread and so here I am.

In regards to the clause 7.10 this was indeed added on January 1st 2009 as part of a full accounting review, we updated the public terms (the ones you agree to when you join) but have overlooked a 'copy' of the terms which is on show in the affiliate area, this will be fixed and only one copy of the terms will be accessible moving forwards.

An email was sent to affiliates alerting them to the change of terms.

and no change was noticed because you STILL HAVE 2 DIFFERENT TERMS...

An email is automatically sent on the 11th month of inactivity explaining that if your account remains inactive then your balance will be removed. The minimum balance is only $100 so that is the most anybody can lose.[/quote]Foward me a copy of the email you claim to have sent me, as I said before I received NO EMAIL saying that my account was about to become inactive and that my funds were about to be removed

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

This process is in place to protect our business for accumulating large debtors and has been approved by both our lawyers and accountants.

This process is in place to protect our active affiliates and ensure we can continue to pay the large commissions that we do.

ANY affiliate network which does not have a similar process in place is just asking for trouble and maybe they do not have the handle on their accounts which we do.

We pay over 200 affiliates every two weeks without fail, we always pay ALL affiliates as per our terms and we do guarantee every payout (again according to our terms).

didn't I show you that you have 2 different terms and conditions on your website for almost 2 years?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

I am sorry you have lost this money and as a good will gesture I will be willing to send this to you, please email me your payment details.

Thanks.

as a good gesture you will pay the commission I generated... you can have my info on my more niche account... the account number is on my 1st post screenshots

Fat Panda · 10-15-2010, 10:40 AM

fuck more niche, there are simply too many honest affiliate programs than to deal with these snakes

Davy · 10-15-2010, 10:47 AM

Another sponsor on the list of people to not make business with.
The list gets quite long...

Tempest · 10-15-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ViagraAffiliate

Hello Andy!

I have always wondered about programs pushing penis enlargement pills, do they know they are actually scamming people?
Andy..do you realize that some of the sites you promote are selling snake oils?
Can you give me a link to a study where it shows how exactly a pill can enlarge a penis?
Please prove me wrong with links to studies that say that penis enlargement pills actually do work.

Actually, MN only has 1 "enlargement" pill offer amongst all the others.. And they lean towards marketing it as a "suppliment" to traction devices or natural exercises.. When a person orders the penis pill, they get access to the natural exercises website... So while people can argue about the entire issue, at the least MN is attempting to be more upfront with customers.

Tempest · 10-15-2010, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMN

An email is automatically sent on the 11th month of inactivity explaining that if your account remains inactive then your balance will be removed. The minimum balance is only $100 so that is the most anybody can lose.

Here's the problem with this policy... I believe I actually fell into this and you guys removed my balance... I never received any email... I'm not sure though if that's exactly what happened or not though.

The most important thing however is that all that time I was sending traffic... Quite a bit if I remember correctly but it never converted... Now is that my fault??? I think not... Now I could have just dumped you guys for "screwing" me but I didn't... A few months ago I decided to put more effort into the type of products you have for sale, did up more targeted advertising etc. and have been making both of us some sales every month... Now if I had dumped you guys for screwing me, you would have lost that traffic and sales to your competitors... In other words, you would have ended up fucking yourself over for having such a short term mentality.

As someone else I think said, a MUCH better poilicy would be to just cash out those affiliates if the company is truly so concerned about this issue.

pornpf69 · 10-15-2010, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Here's the problem with this policy... I believe I actually fell into this and you guys removed my balance... I never received any email... I'm not sure though if that's exactly what happened or not though.

The most important thing however is that all that time I was sending traffic... Quite a bit if I remember correctly but it never converted... Now is that my fault??? I think not... Now I could have just dumped you guys for "screwing" me but I didn't... A few months ago I decided to put more effort into the type of products you have for sale, did up more targeted advertising etc. and have been making both of us some sales every month... Now if I had dumped you guys for screwing me, you would have lost that traffic and sales to your competitors... In other words, you would have ended up fucking yourself over for having such a short term mentality.

As someone else I think said, a MUCH better poilicy would be to just cash out those affiliates if the company is truly so concerned about this issue.

they actually DON'T SEND THE EMAIL ON THE 11th MONTH!!
you didn't receive... I didn't receive neither did ANYONE ELSE THAT POSTED HERE THAT GOT THEIR COMMISSIONS REMOVED FROM THEIR ACCOUNTS!

candyflip · 10-15-2010, 12:41 PM

Sounds a little scammy now to me.

pornpf69 · 10-15-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Sounds a little scammy now to me.

I am really hoping to hear MORE from MORE NICHE...

pornpf69 · 10-16-2010, 09:42 AM

so it looks like it is over on their end...

will76 · 10-16-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Machete_

that's what you get for peddling snake oil

funny how you don't like snake oil but love paxum.... oh how you sleep at night with that conflict LMAO

DBS.US · 10-16-2010, 12:02 PM

Black listed

Hermes · 10-16-2010, 12:19 PM

It might not be "fair" but I think this happens with almost every sponsor, that they don't pay until you meet the minimum payment limit, and often disable accounts that haven't generated any sales or traffic in 12 months. But not every case like this end up being 3+ pages long thread here..

rogueteens · 10-16-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermes

It might not be "fair" but I think this happens with almost every sponsor, that they don't pay until you meet the minimum payment limit, and often disable accounts that haven't generated any sales or traffic in 12 months. But not every case like this end up being 3+ pages long thread here..

really. almost every sponsor removes accounts and takes the money? name them. go on.

Socks · 10-16-2010, 12:59 PM

In adult, I've only heard of this from dating sponsors like AFF.

Are there any traditional paysite programs that have any kind of similar terms? Would be nice to know.

zeuse · 10-16-2010, 01:34 PM

You know if you swipe your paxum card up the crack of your arse your dick grows another 4 inches.

u-Bob · 10-16-2010, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermes

It might not be "fair" but I think this happens with almost every sponsor, that they don't pay until you meet the minimum payment limit, and often disable accounts that haven't generated any sales or traffic in 12 months. But not every case like this end up being 3+ pages long thread here..

when CTB's program did something similar we had a 25 page thread

TeenCat · 10-16-2010, 01:49 PM

nothing better than sponsors blocking accounts cause of inactivity, fucking scamming bastards

Fat Panda · 10-16-2010, 02:10 PM

more niche fucked me too

pornpf69 · 10-16-2010, 03:48 PM

so lets keep this on the 1st page so that everyone knows how they deal with affiliates commissions...

pornpf69 · 10-16-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermes

disable accounts that haven't generated any sales or traffic in 12 months.

the fact is I was sending traffic to them... not much... but I was sending traffic...

Tempest · 10-16-2010, 03:51 PM

Keep bumping this every few hours and it will end up getting locked.

beerptrol · 10-16-2010, 04:10 PM

Wouldn't the right thing to do is pay them what is owed and close their account.
But i guess every nickel and dime adds to your bottom line. and I guess you need the money to pay the lawyers and accountants that gave you the green light

Chris · 10-16-2010, 05:18 PM

pornpf69 - i'd be more than happy to credit your oainternet.com account whatever you lost with them. Let me know.

Regards,
Chris

Agent 488 · 10-16-2010, 05:20 PM

this thread made my penis shrink.

Hermes · 10-16-2010, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens

really. almost every sponsor removes accounts and takes the money? name them. go on.

I've had several accounts disabled after I haven't been using them in a long time, sometimes there even was few bucks left in there, but I'm not going to try to dig years old "proofs" to name anyone because I don't think that really was a big deal. Ok maybe most of the sponsors keep inactive accounts for longer time, but some don't, and i think most sponsors say that you need to reach some minimum amount to get paid.

From sponsors POV I think it's bad publicity, but personally I'd focus on bigger issues.

stocktrader23 · 10-16-2010, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

pornpf69 - i'd be more than happy to credit your oainternet.com account whatever you lost with them. Let me know.

Regards,
Chris

"OA INTERNET SERVICES LTD reserves the right to terminate your account if it is idle for more than two months."

http://www.oainternet.com/terms.html

will76 · 10-16-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

"OA INTERNET SERVICES LTD reserves the right to terminate your account if it is idle for more than two months."

http://www.oainternet.com/terms.html

oh how ironic that was.... ouch.

stocktrader23 · 10-16-2010, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

oh how ironic that was.... ouch.

The funniest one is that they run Paxum now but still advertise Epassporte as an option for affiliate payouts.

FatBastard · 10-17-2010, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeuse

You know if you swipe your paxum card up the crack of your arse your dick grows another 4 inches.

At least your arse prefers Paxum

SomeCreep · 10-17-2010, 12:55 AM

Yeah, Moreniche a.k.a Mensniche started out great, but over the years, they went downhill. The penis enlargement industry isn't an easy business. Especially, after god knows who in the government said that penis pills can't endorse enlargement, only enhancement. After that, Moreniche sold the majority of their company products to LeadingEdgeCash (who's tracking system sucks btw) and are now just a shell of the company they used to be.

Tempest · 10-17-2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Yeah, Moreniche a.k.a Mensniche started out great, but over the years, they went downhill. The penis enlargement industry isn't an easy business. Especially, after god knows who in the government said that penis pills can't endorse enlargement, only enhancement. After that, Moreniche sold the majority of their company products to LeadingEdgeCash (who's tracking system sucks btw) and are now just a shell of the company they used to be.

You're refering to WorldNiche (which split from MN).. I think WorldNiche is basically dead now as everything is moved into what used to be LEC and is now SellHealth... MoreNiche is far from dead and have a decent selection of different products to promote.

pornpf69 · 10-17-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

pornpf69 - i'd be more than happy to credit your oainternet.com account whatever you lost with them. Let me know.

Regards,
Chris

that sounds really nice... what makes an account idle on OA?

pornpf69 · 10-17-2010, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Wouldn't the right thing to do is pay them what is owed and close their account.
But i guess every nickel and dime adds to your bottom line. and I guess you need the money to pay the lawyers and accountants that gave you the green light

that is exactly what I think that should be done... instead of removing the money from the account...

pornpf69 · 10-18-2010, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

sorry but that sounds like you fucked up and expect your affiliates to suffer because of your fuckup.

sorry but that is unacceptable. if you are going to change terms to seize money people earned and were promised under your old terms , you should have implemented a system that webmasters AGREE to the new terms.

i have a process in place to protect myself from accumulating large debtors too, i pay them. It is a novel idea, just might work.

Do your lawyers or accountants send you sales ? then i would expect you get approval from the people MAKING you money , not the people taking your money

just a suggestion though.

cmon now, thats a load of horseshit, how does this "protect active affiliates" in ANY way.
Not much comfort knowing you are paying new affiliates with money seized from old affiliates. kind of a ponzi scheme isn't it..

what kind of process would that be ? the one where you have 2 different terms, the one where your affiliates aren't aware of tos changes ? The only time my accounts have EVER been closed due to inactivity from any sponsor i have been sent a check with the current amount due.

i think if you are going to quote how many affiliates you pay it is only fair you post how many people don't get paid .

that is not much of a guarantee if the true disclaimer is " unless we change the terms tomorrow and decide not to pay you because our lawyers and accountants say its cool "

this last quote is the ONLY thing you should have said in this thread

..

I got the point of this topic... too bad that MORE NICHE instead of saying they are wrong (THEY HAVE 2 TERMS and CONDITIONS on their website) simply say we won't pay our affiliates because our layer said it was OK to do it...

paymeback · 10-18-2010, 08:46 PM

bump to the top

will76 · 10-18-2010, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Yeah, Moreniche a.k.a Mensniche started out great, but over the years, they went downhill. The penis enlargement industry isn't an easy business. Especially, after god knows who in the government said that penis pills can't endorse enlargement, only enhancement. After that, Moreniche sold the majority of their company products to LeadingEdgeCash (who's tracking system sucks btw) and are now just a shell of the company they used to be.

great to see the govt put their foot down, because if you believe a pill is really going to make your cock 1-3 inches bigger you need to get your head examined.

IF pills like that really worked, major drug companies would be selling them, they would be FDA approved and the company selling them would be traded on the stock market. All of this snake oil shit is unproven, smoke and mirrors sold to desperate people. Nice to see the govt step in and regulate their deceptive marketing, even if it was just a little of what they should have done to them.

pornpf69 · 10-19-2010, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

great to see the govt put their foot down, because if you believe a pill is really going to make your cock 1-3 inches bigger you need to get your head examined.

IF pills like that really worked, major drug companies would be selling them, they would be FDA approved and the company selling them would be traded on the stock market. All of this snake oil shit is unproven, smoke and mirrors sold to desperate people. Nice to see the govt step in and regulate their deceptive marketing, even if it was just a little of what they should have done to them.

many drugs that once were legal and proven to work are now illegal and proven not to work as they should...

pornpf69 · 10-21-2010, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

In adult, I've only heard of this from dating sponsors like AFF.

Are there any traditional paysite programs that have any kind of similar terms? Would be nice to know.

AFF was much worse when they were associated with ZANGO...
BTW: I am still waiting to hear from Chris (OA Internet) and Andy from MoreNiche...

TeenSluts · 10-21-2010, 08:40 AM

good to know, will be removing moreniche links

pornpf69 · 10-22-2010, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenSluts

good to know, will be removing moreniche links

I am glad to hear that... and I was really hoping to hear more from MoreNiche...

DVTimes · 10-22-2010, 07:25 PM

hope its got sorted

pornpf69 · 10-23-2010, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

hope its got sorted

that is what I am hoping... but so far they don't seem to give a DAMN about their affiliates...
if they have a chance they will screw anyone!!

18teens · 10-23-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pornpf69

that is what I am hoping... but so far they don't seem to give a DAMN about their affiliates...
if they have a chance they will screw anyone!!

Damn, my blacklist just keeps getting longer.

10-15-2010, 10:30 AM	#107
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Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	fuck more niche, there are simply too many honest affiliate programs than to deal with these snakes

10-16-2010, 12:19 PM	#119
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