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  • DWB
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 31779

    #1

    Nathan / Fabian - Please step inside. Time to step up to the plate.

    Fabian,
    In another thread you made a comment about banning users who upload videos they do not own the copyright to.

    The statement:

    Originally posted by Nathan
    ...counts against their number allowed before they are banned. I think that currently is 3 infringements. What happens to their old videos is a good question, I can not say right now, have to find out.
    I want to personally let you know about a user who I have already sent take down notices on, for 3 files. Spank Wire removed them in the timely manner, thank you. However, just now, I sent 4 more take down notices for the same user.

    Old 3 (removed):

    1) http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Ae/video215636/
    2) http://www.spankwire.com/Thai-Babe-Nueng/video177433/
    3) http://www.spankwire.com/Hot-Asian-E...s/video151745/

    New 4 (just sent):

    http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Jen/video215638/
    http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Nok/video215641/
    http://www.spankwire.com/Nam-Bangkok...e/video214771/
    http://www.spankwire.com/Hot-asian-Joy/video199836/

    This is a total of 7 infringements of my videos, by the same user.

    User Name: rampaux
    User Uploads: 2353
    User Profile: http://www.spankwire.com/Profile.asp...&UserId=349041

    Based on your statement of, "I think that currently is 3 infringements" before they are banned, have at it sir. Strike three, you're out! You say you are changing thing over there, now is a great time to show you mean it.

    It would also be the right move and a show of a real commitment to turning your company around if you deleted all of his files, all 2353 of them. If he is banned for uploading videos he does not hold the copyright to, all of his videos should be deleted as well, as we both know he doesn't hold the copyright to them either. And by the way, I am only on page 12 of his videos when I found the last 4 of mine. Only 87 more pages of illegally uploaded videos to go! How many more of mine do you think are in there?

    What say you, sir?
  • marketsmart
    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
    • Dec 2004
    • 20419

    #2
    Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
    What say you, sir?
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    I speak for the ladyboy's, for the ladyboy's have no tongues.

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    • chronig
      Registered User
      • Oct 2009
      • 2653

      #3
      all tube uploading is done inhouse...

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      • greg80
        Confirmed User
        • May 2007
        • 1644

        #4
        Originally posted by chronig
        all tube uploading is done inhouse...
        of course, everyone knows that
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        • V_RocKs
          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
          • Nov 2003
          • 32447

          #5
          All he has to do now...
          1) turn off all videos uploaded by this user.
          2) transfer his uploads to another house account.
          3) ban user.
          4) add new user to scheduled turn on script scheduled for 2 weeks from now.
          5) claim somebody uploaded 2000+ videos in 1 second.

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          • CaptainHowdy
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2004
            • 94727

            #6
            Originally posted by chronig
            all tube uploading is done inhouse...
            No evil uploader in the safety of his home?? verdomme!!

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            • JFK
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              • Jan 2002
              • 67373

              #7
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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942

                #8
                Doing a little search and found this guy.

                http://www.pornhub.com/users/kb24

                This is his profile.

                * Joined: 4 days ago
                * Last Login: 3 weeks ago
                * Videos Watched: 226
                * People have watched kb24 videos: 114611 times

                So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago????????

                But in that time 3 weeks or 4 days he's been a very busy boy. he has Public Videos (434) most over 20 minutes and some over 30 and a few over 40 minutes. Maybe he owns a studio or something.

                So in 21 days he's uploaded 434 videos, over 20 videos a day. At an average of 25 minutes each for arguments sake. 500 minutes of video every day. Yes this guy is a very busy beaver. He's at it over 8 hours a day. Nathan should be paying him.

                He also found time for Videos Watched: 226. A very busy boy.



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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #9
                  Then there is this guy. Anonymous0

                  * Joined: 1 year ago
                  * Last Login: 1 year ago
                  * Videos Watched: 0 (He didn't have the time or the speed to watch anything. LOL)
                  * People have watched Anonymous0 videos: 48,508,736 times

                  Public Videos (1205)

                  Yes 48 million views. on 1205 videos. And he joined a year ago and has not logged in for a year.

                  It will take someone with cash and balls to take Manwin to court and ask them to explain some of these uploaders.
                  Last edited by Paul Markham; 10-08-2010, 11:58 AM.



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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 42635

                    #10
                    There are plenty of tubes where users upload videos themselves. Especially that one's that then allow the users to hot link, or embed, the video on to forums. You are essentially hosting it for them so they can share and get their high fives, hence they repeat this process daily. It's not mystery science theatre.

                    Sometimes I wonder if a large number of people that post on this forum have a collective clue about surfer behavior. To keep insisting that 'ALL' tubes are not user uploaded and done by the owner(s) is wrong, and completely asinine. It is no wonder that this industry is in trouble.
                    Last edited by Barefootsies; 10-08-2010, 11:59 AM.
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                    • Matyko
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                      • Aug 2005
                      • 8681

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JFK
                      Best of luck with this BWB
                      BWB is BlackWhiteBoy = Michael Jackson
                      DWB is completely different
                      </trying to be funny>

                      Good luck on fighting against the assholes!
                      A bit like Don Quixote, but its important and the more ppl that step up against this the better.
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                      • will76
                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                        • May 2003
                        • 18037

                        #12
                        Its amazing the hoops the tube sites make people jump through. I bet they laugh at you guys... " haha got 20 more requests to take down videos today, takes me 10 seconds to delete them and about 10 more seconds to replace them back tomorrow under another fake account".

                        I don't know what is more odd, the "game" of trying to get your shit removed or the fact that people actually play it.
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                        • signupdamnit
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6697

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                          Doing a little search and found this guy.

                          http://www.pornhub.com/users/kb24

                          This is his profile.

                          * Joined: 4 days ago
                          * Last Login: 3 weeks ago
                          * Videos Watched: 226
                          * People have watched kb24 videos: 114611 times

                          So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago????????

                          But in that time 3 weeks or 4 days he's been a very busy boy. he has Public Videos (434) most over 20 minutes and some over 30 and a few over 40 minutes. Maybe he owns a studio or something.

                          So in 21 days he's uploaded 434 videos, over 20 videos a day. At an average of 25 minutes each for arguments sake. 500 minutes of video every day. Yes this guy is a very busy beaver. He's at it over 8 hours a day. Nathan should be paying him.

                          He also found time for Videos Watched: 226. A very busy boy.
                          Make sure to grab screenshots of this stuff. You never know if it might come in useful one day. Maybe even in court.

                          You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                          • ottopottomouse
                            She is ugly, bad luck.
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 13177

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chronig
                            all tube uploading is done inhouse...
                            There's a lot of blogs using pornhost as a video hoster.
                            ↑ see post ↑
                            13101

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                            • TurboAngel
                              H.B.I.C.
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 30122

                              #15
                              Looks like they took them all down.

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                              • signupdamnit
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6697

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                There are plenty of tubes where users upload videos themselves. Especially that one's that then allow the users to hot link, or embed, the video on to forums. You are essentially hosting it for them so they can share and get their high fives, hence they repeat this process daily. It's not mystery science theatre.

                                Sometimes I wonder if a large number of people that post on this forum have a collective clue about surfer behavior. To keep insisting that 'ALL' tubes are not user uploaded and done by the owner(s) is wrong, and completely asinine. It is no wonder that this industry is in trouble.
                                I agree that SOME are actually user uploaded. I've seen that on my own legal tubes. However I highly doubt it is 100% that are user uploaded.

                                Also how do you explain:

                                * Joined: 4 days ago
                                * Last Login: 3 weeks ago
                                Looks a little suspicious don't you think?
                                Last edited by signupdamnit; 10-08-2010, 12:09 PM.

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                                • TheLegacy
                                  SEO & GEO Connoisseur
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 18078

                                  #17
                                  Mars Attacks "Why Can't We All Just Get Along?"

                                  I think this pretty much sums up the Tube Wars

                                  Last edited by TheLegacy; 10-08-2010, 12:15 PM.

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                                  • Slutboat
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2008
                                    • 2388

                                    #18
                                    this is a joke right? You really think that uploader is not a Manwin employee?
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                                    • JFK
                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 67373

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Matyko
                                      BWB is BlackWhiteBoy = Michael Jackson
                                      DWB is completely different
                                      </trying to be funny>

                                      Good luck on fighting against the assholes!
                                      A bit like Don Quixote, but its important and the more ppl that step up against this the better.
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                                      • Barefootsies
                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 42635

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                        I agree that SOME are actually user uploaded. I've seen that on my own legal tubes. However I highly doubt it is 100% that are user uploaded.
                                        I prefer to never use an "all" or "nothing" apology. As it is often wrong. Some are user uploaded, some are owner and user uploaded, some are only owner uploaded. See how that works? I am sure there is a mix of all out there.

                                        Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                        Also how do you explain:

                                        Looks a little suspicious don't you think?
                                        I do not need to explain it. I do not host it, I am not law enforcement, nor is it my tube in whatever example is being cited. So it's none of my business. The owner would need to explain that if they felt the need. Otherwise, they simply have to follow DMCA compliance.
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                                        • V_RocKs
                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 32447

                                          #21
                                          I think this shows how obvious it is that the majority of the content was uploaded by the sites owners.

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                                          • chronig
                                            Registered User
                                            • Oct 2009
                                            • 2653

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                            Doing a little search and found this guy.

                                            http://www.pornhub.com/users/kb24

                                            This is his profile.

                                            * Joined: 4 days ago
                                            * Last Login: 3 weeks ago
                                            * Videos Watched: 226
                                            * People have watched kb24 videos: 114611 times

                                            So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago????????

                                            But in that time 3 weeks or 4 days he's been a very busy boy. he has Public Videos (434) most over 20 minutes and some over 30 and a few over 40 minutes. Maybe he owns a studio or something.

                                            So in 21 days he's uploaded 434 videos, over 20 videos a day. At an average of 25 minutes each for arguments sake. 500 minutes of video every day. Yes this guy is a very busy beaver. He's at it over 8 hours a day. Nathan should be paying him.

                                            He also found time for Videos Watched: 226. A very busy boy.
                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                            Then there is this guy. Anonymous0

                                            * Joined: 1 year ago
                                            * Last Login: 1 year ago
                                            * Videos Watched: 0 (He didn't have the time or the speed to watch anything. LOL)
                                            * People have watched Anonymous0 videos: 48,508,736 times

                                            Public Videos (1205)

                                            Yes 48 million views. on 1205 videos. And he joined a year ago and has not logged in for a year.

                                            It will take someone with cash and balls to take Manwin to court and ask them to explain some of these uploaders.
                                            So obvious that even old man markham can spot it ... ...

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                                            • DWB
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 31779

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JFK
                                              well fuck me dead
                                              That would be the most noble of deaths. Preferably with Asian twins.

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                                              • Half man, Half Amazing
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2008
                                                • 372

                                                #24
                                                Check out this quote from the blog of JJ09 (2100 videos uploaded):

                                                "As you all can see I have upload a lots of videos. The funny thing is even if it's that many there are 4 kind of videos that seems to be very popular. I have never ever expect that, after I started to upload them.

                                                Top 4 Most Popular Videos On JJ's Profile
                                                * DareDorm * MoneyTalks * BangBus * Can He Score

                                                Anyway as long as I can find them, I will continue to upload them."

                                                http://www.pornhub.com/users/JJ09
                                                Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                                • signupdamnit
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                  • 6697

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                  I prefer to never use an "all" or "nothing" apology. As it is often wrong. Some are user uploaded, some are owner and user uploaded, some are only owner uploaded. See how that works? I am sure there is a mix of all out there.
                                                  If even one pirated movie is proven to have been uploaded by either 1) the tube owner 2) it's employees 3) someone working under their direction; then this may have significant legal consequences. Especially if the organization in question has stated under oath that they have done no such thing.

                                                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                  • papill0n
                                                    Unregistered Abuser
                                                    • Oct 2007
                                                    • 15547

                                                    #26
                                                    fuck those cunts from brazzers

                                                    low life pieces of shit

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                                                    • Kenny B!
                                                      Confirmed Abuser
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 5718

                                                      #27
                                                      Let's be honest if Fabian or any of the big tube owners actually cared about copyright infringement they would make sure the user uploading the content has the rights to it before the content goes live.

                                                      It's as simple as that, get a producer account and be allowed to upload. Until a tube owner does that then they are just allowing other to steal and upload content.

                                                      Unless it goes to court and there is a warrant for up loader IP's there is no way to tell who is uploading the content, so if Fabian or any other tube owner wants to prove they give a shit about theft they will kill all user uploads and only allow pre-approved submitters.

                                                      Fabian seems dead set on making things right over there, let's see how he moves the company forward.
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                                                      • fris
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 55679

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                        Fabian,
                                                        In another thread you made a comment about banning users who upload videos they do not own the copyright to.

                                                        The statement:



                                                        I want to personally let you know about a user who I have already sent take down notices on, for 3 files. Spank Wire removed them in the timely manner, thank you. However, just now, I sent 4 more take down notices for the same user.

                                                        Old 3 (removed):

                                                        1) http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Ae/video215636/
                                                        2) http://www.spankwire.com/Thai-Babe-Nueng/video177433/
                                                        3) http://www.spankwire.com/Hot-Asian-E...s/video151745/

                                                        New 4 (just sent):

                                                        http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Jen/video215638/
                                                        http://www.spankwire.com/Thailand-Teen-Nok/video215641/
                                                        http://www.spankwire.com/Nam-Bangkok...e/video214771/
                                                        http://www.spankwire.com/Hot-asian-Joy/video199836/

                                                        This is a total of 7 infringements of my videos, by the same user.

                                                        User Name: rampaux
                                                        User Uploads: 2353
                                                        User Profile: http://www.spankwire.com/Profile.asp...&UserId=349041

                                                        Based on your statement of, "I think that currently is 3 infringements" before they are banned, have at it sir. Strike three, you're out! You say you are changing thing over there, now is a great time to show you mean it.

                                                        It would also be the right move and a show of a real commitment to turning your company around if you deleted all of his files, all 2353 of them. If he is banned for uploading videos he does not hold the copyright to, all of his videos should be deleted as well, as we both know he doesn't hold the copyright to them either. And by the way, I am only on page 12 of his videos when I found the last 4 of mine. Only 87 more pages of illegally uploaded videos to go! How many more of mine do you think are in there?

                                                        What say you, sir?
                                                        they will just create a new account, and move the videos to a new account, 1 line sql :p
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                                                        • DWB
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 31779

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by fris
                                                          they will just create a new account, and move the videos to a new account, 1 line sql :p
                                                          I want to see if they even do that much. Good chance they won't do anything at all regardless of what he said they would do.

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                                                          • Barefootsies
                                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 42635

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                            If even one pirated movie is proven to have been uploaded by either 1) the tube owner 2) it's employees 3) someone working under their direction; then this may have significant legal consequences. Especially if the organization in question has stated under oath that they have done no such thing.
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                                                            • Paper_Amar
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                              • 2607

                                                              #31
                                                              Since you can subpoena ISPs for IPs and name/address of downloaders/Torrent guys/ Why cant the same be down for uploaders?
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                                                              • DWB
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 31779

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Paper_Amar
                                                                Since you can subpoena ISPs for IPs and name/address of downloaders/Torrent guys/ Why cant the same be down for uploaders?
                                                                If I had a tube and had people uploading for me, I would not have them doing it from the office. I'd spread people out across the world to do it. India, Philippines, New Work, Texas, Canada, and so on. You would never get caught that way.

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                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 52942

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                  Doing a little search and found this guy.

                                                                  http://www.pornhub.com/users/kb24

                                                                  This is his profile.

                                                                  * Joined: 4 days ago
                                                                  * Last Login: 3 weeks ago
                                                                  * Videos Watched: 226
                                                                  * People have watched kb24 videos: 114611 times

                                                                  So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago????????

                                                                  But in that time 3 weeks or 4 days he's been a very busy boy. he has Public Videos (434) most over 20 minutes and some over 30 and a few over 40 minutes. Maybe he owns a studio or something.

                                                                  So in 21 days he's uploaded 434 videos, over 20 videos a day. At an average of 25 minutes each for arguments sake. 500 minutes of video every day. Yes this guy is a very busy beaver. He's at it over 8 hours a day. Nathan should be paying him.

                                                                  He also found time for Videos Watched: 226. A very busy boy.
                                                                  The next time Fabian tells us he's not responsible for what happened before he bought the company and he's putting it right. Shove this down his throat. It happened on his watch and it's not the only one.



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                                                                  • Jason Voorhees
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Jul 2010
                                                                    • 843

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                    All he has to do now...
                                                                    1) turn off all videos uploaded by this user.
                                                                    2) transfer his uploads to another house account.
                                                                    3) ban user.
                                                                    4) add new user to scheduled turn on script scheduled for 2 weeks from now.
                                                                    5) claim somebody uploaded 2000+ videos in 1 second.
                                                                    Or just rename the account and or ID number, create new account, change id number, ban that account. That's what I do.

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                                                                    • Carmen80
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2010
                                                                      • 207

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Long live the tubes!
                                                                      It's all just a strange dream..

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                                                                      • Nathan
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 3108

                                                                        #36
                                                                        DWB, as I said in the other thread. We ban the user currently. And ban things like email address to prevent the user signing up again. We do not, as far as I know, remove all content, actually, under DMCA law that might be a problem... but that is something I need to find out for sure, but did not have the time yet.
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                                                                        • Half man, Half Amazing
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                          • 372

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Nathan
                                                                          DWB, as I said in the other thread. We ban the user currently. And ban things like email address to prevent the user signing up again. We do not, as far as I know, remove all content, actually, under DMCA law that might be a problem... but that is something I need to find out for sure, but did not have the time yet.
                                                                          I don't think DMCA law protects a repeat offender who is in violation of your own TOS. That's a bullshit copout and YOU KNOW IT.

                                                                          That's like the cops saying...."yeah we know he stole this car, but we can't arrest him because he actually paid for the underwear he's wearing".

                                                                          They violated your own TOS. In your TOS you say you can delete their account. Just quit bullshitting us and tell us what you really want to say:

                                                                          "We don't want to delete the other videos that repeat offenders upload because we like having stolen content on our site to bring in traffic to justify our ad rates."
                                                                          Last edited by Half man, Half Amazing; 10-08-2010, 02:12 PM.
                                                                          Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                                                          • tiger
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                            • 6986

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                            Then there is this guy. Anonymous0

                                                                            * Joined: 1 year ago
                                                                            * Last Login: 1 year ago
                                                                            * Videos Watched: 0 (He didn't have the time or the speed to watch anything. LOL)
                                                                            * People have watched Anonymous0 videos: 48,508,736 times

                                                                            Public Videos (1205)

                                                                            Yes 48 million views. on 1205 videos. And he joined a year ago and has not logged in for a year.

                                                                            It will take someone with cash and balls to take Manwin to court and ask them to explain some of these uploaders.


                                                                            Does it get more obvious than that. I'm sure this type of obvious stuff will be covered up very soon.

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                                                                            • Nathan
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                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 3108

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Half man, Half Amazing
                                                                              I don't think DMCA law protects a repeat offender who is in violation of your own TOS. That's a bullshit copout and YOU KNOW IT.

                                                                              That's like the cops saying...."yeah we know he stole this car, but we can't arrest him because he actually paid for the underwear he's wearing".

                                                                              They violated your own TOS. In your TOS you say you can delete their account. Just quit bullshitting us and tell us what you really want to say:

                                                                              "We don't want to delete the other videos that repeat offenders upload because we like having stolen content on our site to bring in traffic to justify our ad rates."
                                                                              No it's not.. just because some person uploads 3 infringing videos does not make all of them infringing. And DMCA tells us we can not select. Them violating the TOS gets them banned.
                                                                              "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                                                                              - Charlie Munger

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                                                                              • Dirty Dane
                                                                                Sick Fuck
                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                • 9491

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Nathan
                                                                                No it's not.. just because some person uploads 3 infringing videos does not make all of them infringing. And DMCA tells us we can not select. Them violating the TOS gets them banned.
                                                                                So the rest of the movies stay public?

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                                                                                • DWB
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 31779

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Nathan
                                                                                  DWB, as I said in the other thread. We ban the user currently. And ban things like email address to prevent the user signing up again. We do not, as far as I know, remove all content, actually, under DMCA law that might be a problem... but that is something I need to find out for sure, but did not have the time yet.
                                                                                  You created NATS and the best you can do is ban their email address? Honestly?

                                                                                  I would think you should check DMCA law about those other videos. If your user violated your TOS 7 times (from me alone) and did not have permission to load those videos, that leads me and everyone else, including you, to believe he is loading nothing but videos he does not have the right to load. You clearly did not buy the rights to those videos otherwise that would implicate him as someone who works for you. The studios did not give him permission to post them, because for starters, he stole mine, and if he was given access to 2300 videos to put up for free, he would not bother stealing a single one.

                                                                                  He has 2300+ videos and you want me to believe he as the rights to all of them, after he just got caught with mine?

                                                                                  He doesn't.

                                                                                  The sheer numbers of videos alone from a plethora of different studios, tells you, without a doubt, he does not own the rights to all of them. I can speak personally and say at least 7 of them were there without permission, and I'm just on page 12 out of 99 of his pages.

                                                                                  A note from the user, from his profile:

                                                                                  Originally posted by rampaux
                                                                                  Only the highest quality pussy on Spankwire! I've stopped uploading videos as of 3/13/2010...I've returned to uploading as of 4/6/2010...I've run out of videos to upload.
                                                                                  With the number of posts he has and the time joined, he has been uploading 3 videos per day, for two straight years. Odd huh?

                                                                                  I didn't really think this was going to go anywhere but I figured I would give it a shot so at least I would know without a shadow of a doubt, that what I believed to be true, was true. Thanks for replying and removing the new videos in question, even if temporarily.

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                                                                                  • Nathan
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                    • 3108

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                    So the rest of the movies stay public?
                                                                                    I can not say 100%, since it depends on many factors, but usually they would remain public. Under certain circumstances they all get removed.
                                                                                    "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                                                                                    - Charlie Munger

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                                                                                    • Nathan
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 3108

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                      You created NATS and the best you can do is ban their email address? Honestly?

                                                                                      I would think you should check DMCA law about those other videos. If your user violated your TOS 7 times (from me alone) and did not have permission to load those videos, that leads me and everyone else, including you, to believe he is loading nothing but videos he does not have the right to load. You clearly did not buy the rights to those videos otherwise that would implicate him as someone who works for you. The studios did not give him permission to post them, because for starters, he stole mine, and if he was given access to 2300 videos to put up for free, he would not bother stealing a single one.

                                                                                      He has 2300+ videos and you want me to believe he as the rights to all of them, after he just got caught with mine?

                                                                                      He doesn't.

                                                                                      The sheer numbers of videos alone from a plethora of different studios, tells you, without a doubt, he does not own the rights to all of them. I can speak personally and say at least 7 of them were there without permission, and I'm just on page 12 out of 99 of his pages.

                                                                                      A note from the user, from his profile:



                                                                                      With the number of posts he has and the time joined, he has been uploading 3 videos per day, for two straight years. Odd huh?

                                                                                      I didn't really think this was going to go anywhere but I figured I would give it a shot so at least I would know without a shadow of a doubt, that what I believed to be true, was true. Thanks for replying and removing the new videos in question, even if temporarily.
                                                                                      DWB, this has nothing to do with a technical issue. And I am not a programmer anymore, I stopped programming over 3 years ago.

                                                                                      Why is that odd? There are a ton of people like that on YouTube also, those are not odd supposedly?

                                                                                      Sorry, but a copyrighted video is not automatically infringing. Far from it actually.
                                                                                      "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                                                                                      - Charlie Munger

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                                                                                      • DWB
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 31779

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Nathan
                                                                                        No it's not.. just because some person uploads 3 infringing videos does not make all of them infringing. And DMCA tells us we can not select. Them violating the TOS gets them banned.
                                                                                        Actually, it's 7 infringing videos and I stopped when I was on page 12 out of 99. Will look through the rest tomorrow, but I do know for a fact this user does not have the rights to 2300+ videos. Every page of the 12 was full of DVD scenes I know from other studios.

                                                                                        You can't say you bought the rights to those video because that would connect him to your company. He sure as hell didn't buy the rights to them just to give them away for free, and why steal any if you have 2300 legal ones?

                                                                                        Use your head. In this case, it is a no brainier those videos are not supposed to be there. To think they do, for any reason, says you are being negligent.

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                                                                                        • Robbie
                                                                                          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 20960

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                          You can't say you bought the rights to those video because that would connect him to your company. He sure as hell didn't buy the rights to them just to give them away for free, and why steal any if you have 2300 legal ones?
                                                                                          .
                                                                                          BAM! Check Mate!
                                                                                          -Robbie
                                                                                          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                          • Dirty Dane
                                                                                            Sick Fuck
                                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                                            • 9491

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Nathan
                                                                                            I can not say 100%, since it depends on many factors, but usually they would remain public. Under certain circumstances they all get removed.
                                                                                            Banning a user is a certain circumstance and other hosts like YouTube or Rapidshare remove all content from public if the user is banned. I can't see why a porn tube is different regarding DMCA. The user is no longer in control and can't respond on claims if you keep it online.
                                                                                            Last edited by Dirty Dane; 10-08-2010, 03:47 PM.

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                                                                                            • fris
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 55679

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              ya if the content isnt owned by him, they should get removed, and whats with the users registering weeks ago, and last time they were online was a year ago, think you fucked up when registering fake nicks so you can get away with uploading stolen videos.
                                                                                              Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.

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                                                                                              • charlie g
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                • 2759

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Uh Oh Fabien/Nathian. You dun goofed!!!! Cyber police backtraced you and is coming for you. Fucking thief.
                                                                                                AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
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                                                                                                • Agent 488
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                  • 22511

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  i think it just proves i just came on a sock.

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                                                                                                  • signupdamnit
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                                                                    • 6697

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                    Doing a little search and found this guy.

                                                                                                    http://www.pornhub.com/users/kb24

                                                                                                    This is his profile.

                                                                                                    * Joined: 4 days ago
                                                                                                    * Last Login: 3 weeks ago
                                                                                                    * Videos Watched: 226
                                                                                                    * People have watched kb24 videos: 114611 times

                                                                                                    So he joined 4 days ago but last logged in 3 weeks ago????????

                                                                                                    But in that time 3 weeks or 4 days he's been a very busy boy. he has Public Videos (434) most over 20 minutes and some over 30 and a few over 40 minutes. Maybe he owns a studio or something.

                                                                                                    So in 21 days he's uploaded 434 videos, over 20 videos a day. At an average of 25 minutes each for arguments sake. 500 minutes of video every day. Yes this guy is a very busy beaver. He's at it over 8 hours a day. Nathan should be paying him.

                                                                                                    He also found time for Videos Watched: 226. A very busy boy.
                                                                                                    Not sure if this is really a normal user account or not but talk about MASSIVE pirate content:

                                                                                                    http://www.pornhub.com/users/anonymous


                                                                                                    Joined: 3 years ago
                                                                                                    Last Login: 11 months ago
                                                                                                    Videos Watched: 174
                                                                                                    People have watched anonymous videos: 911238160 times

                                                                                                    Public Videos (16884)
                                                                                                    Private Videos (2565)


                                                                                                    Name: anonymous
                                                                                                    Age: 29
                                                                                                    Gender:
                                                                                                    Relationship Status: Open
                                                                                                    Interested In: Girls + Guys
                                                                                                    Profile Viewed: 1190987 Times
                                                                                                    Despite "Last Login: 11 Months ago"

                                                                                                    This video: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=298394919 Claims to be "Added: 1 month ago"

                                                                                                    And there are also private videos which claim to be added "2 weeks ago"



                                                                                                    Here's another that Half man, Half Amazing brought up in the other topic:

                                                                                                    http://www.pornhub.com/users/JJ09


                                                                                                    Joined: 1 year ago
                                                                                                    Last Login: 5 days ago
                                                                                                    Videos Watched: 225
                                                                                                    People have watched JJ09 videos: 3494916 times
                                                                                                    But videos added "4 days ago" such as this one:

                                                                                                    http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=587044175

                                                                                                    You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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