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georgeyw · 10-05-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by minicivan

Ha. I thought you lost everything because you are dumb, arrogant and incompetent. Thanks for the information.

Who do you blame for yessignals.com? You dog?

Sleazy is just doing his usual thing and trying to troll the board because his life is fucked and it is the only thing that gives him any kind of satisfaction these days.

lol @ the facebook page responses :
"**** ****** Where is my money that you stole from me through epassporte.com? You owe people millions your thief!!"

Yahook · 10-05-2010, 04:21 PM

Nothing to thank for. Chris Mallick has stolen our money.

MrBottomTooth · 10-05-2010, 04:30 PM

Thanks for Bernie Madoff for all the great investing tips he gave me in the past few years!

wizzart · 10-05-2010, 04:30 PM

You are right SleazyDream, ePass was best payment option and I think we wouldn't find better in future...

Tjeezers · 10-05-2010, 04:36 PM

Take your hand out of his ass

Brad Mitchell · 10-05-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Nobody got their ach deposits today, less than what 12 hours after the email from epass saying they are done? We will see tomorrow, if no ACH deposits then I think it's a pretty good guess that wallet money is no more. I have supported epassporte for many years and until this email I still had faith in them, still told people I think they will survive. I have about 7k at risk here, hell I had so much faith in epassporte I kept accepting payments until yesterday. If I get my money out and Chris opens a new program I'll be first in line to use it and promote it.

I've got about $7500 in transit. We'll see tomorrow and in 2 days if anything settles. My last ACH receipt was yesterday.

Brad

tabasco · 10-05-2010, 04:51 PM

Money? What money? I fear you are insane my dear child!

V_RocKs · 10-05-2010, 04:59 PM

I wish I could support the guy.

rewn · 10-05-2010, 05:02 PM

Chris Mallick, you fat asshole where is my money from epassporte.com??

spazlabz · 10-05-2010, 05:04 PM

Funniest thread EV-AH!

Tjeezers · 10-05-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

He should learn that social network sites are very usefull

cykoe6 · 10-05-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

While we're giving shout outs, I'd like to give big ups to Globill, My Virtual Card, and Ibill... you guys always had the best parties and worked hard.

GonZo · 10-05-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz

Funniest thread EV-AH!

Epic cocknuzzling in this thread.

See sig

PAR · 10-05-2010, 05:29 PM

CHRIS-MALLICK.COM... coming soon to an browser near you.. (eta.. tomorrow AM)
Please take time to thank Cris for all his great deeds..

SleazyDream · 10-05-2010, 06:16 PM

so if the visa and remaining wallets eventually get paid out - is everyone here going to publicly apologize to Chris?

what I saw online was the st kitts bank is activating the visa's on thursday......can anyone comment?

Virtually any adult (or any company for that matter) can have funds frozen for any number of reasons outside of their control....I mean I understand this hurt a lot of people, but it could happen to ANY company at any time. It's a risk we all took and new when we got the epassporte card. Or is everyone here ragging on Chris saying they were too dumb to know and understand that risk when they started using it?

gumdrop · 10-05-2010, 06:17 PM

But funny no one is talking about managing director of the company a man named Gregory E. Elias.
Interesting.

Brad Mitchell · 10-05-2010, 06:17 PM

Scott... I love ya, but this thread is awfully ill conceived. He ran a money transfer service into the ground. We will eventually learn what really happened, but he had no rights to any of the funds in Epassporte other than fee revenue. Nobody owes him any thank you, Epassporte did not create opportunity - nor did it take any lending risk. If there is anything but small dollars that get unsettled, perhaps a last million or two for operational burn, he owns that. We are talking tens to a hundred million perhaps (nobody knows) that is inaccessible. Hopefully, one way or another funds find their way to their respective owners.

Brad

Marshal · 10-05-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PAR

CHRIS-MALLICK.COM... coming soon to an browser near you.. (eta.. tomorrow AM)
Please take time to thank Cris for all his great deeds..

please do add facebook like buttons to your site...

Agent 488 · 10-05-2010, 06:20 PM

you suck ...

RaiderCash_Dominik · 10-05-2010, 06:30 PM

My guess is Sleazy had about $5 CND in there.

Agent 488 · 10-05-2010, 06:33 PM

you spelled his name wrong?

Jdoughs · 10-05-2010, 06:35 PM

Sleazy, stepping up to his crown as GFY fucktard.

Grats you fucking idiot.

I actually drove through Gimli this summer, and stopped to piss on the road in your honor.

SleazyDream · 10-05-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Scott... I love ya, but this thread is awfully ill conceived. He ran a money transfer service into the ground. We will eventually learn what really happened, but he had no rights to any of the funds in Epassporte other than fee revenue. Nobody owes him any thank you, Epassporte did not create opportunity - nor did it take any lending risk. If there is anything but small dollars that get unsettled, perhaps a last million or two for operational burn, he owns that. We are talking tens to a hundred million perhaps (nobody knows) that is inaccessible. Hopefully, one way or another funds find their way to their respective owners.

Brad

maybe i'm missing something but what I saw was one day Epass was working and the next day it wasn't - visa option was pulled by the bank for unexplained reasons and frozen by them.

Suddenly everybody wanted everything out - and like all banking institutions, not everything would be instantly liquid so they stalled a bit on the wallets...

Some wallets got paid - some are supposedly in transit...the rumor is the visa's are operational on Thursday to withdraw money...

i don't think I'd be ragging on Chris for a least a few months

Jdoughs · 10-05-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

maybe i'm missing something but what I saw was one day Epass was working and the next day it wasn't - visa option was pulled by the bank for unexplained reasons and frozen by them.

Suddenly everybody wanted everything out - and like all banking institutions, not everything would be instantly liquid so they stalled a bit on the wallets...

Some wallets got paid - some are supposedly in transit...the rumor is the visa's are operational on Thursday to withdraw money...

i don't think I'd be ragging on Chris for a least a few months

He hasn't even made a statement, he left for Cabo instead.

Guy is a complete thief.

gumdrop · 10-05-2010, 06:42 PM

As some pointed out at Krebs:

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Ok, they will give back the money, but what about all pèople who have little money in epassporte who will never take back this money? i talk about the people with just 10-20-30-40 dollar in epassporte wallet….

Let’s assume a 20 dollars/account * 100.000 accounts (i don’t know how many account are in epassport sistem, i guess after 7 year in activities at least are 100.000, maybe much more) = 2.000.000$ they will never “give back”.

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/09/f...porte-edition/

lagcam · 10-05-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Scott... I love ya, but this thread is awfully ill conceived. He ran a money transfer service into the ground. We will eventually learn what really happened, but he had no rights to any of the funds in Epassporte other than fee revenue. Nobody owes him any thank you, Epassporte did not create opportunity - nor did it take any lending risk. If there is anything but small dollars that get unsettled, perhaps a last million or two for operational burn, he owns that. We are talking tens to a hundred million perhaps (nobody knows) that is inaccessible. Hopefully, one way or another funds find their way to their respective owners.

Brad

I think this is pretty much right.

Sleazy is also right that we should acknowledge and appreciate the ground that epassporte broke and that many of us benefitted from using it to disperse funds cheaply around the world, but the simple fact is that it wasn't a charity, it was a business and a lot of people trusted that business and have been inconvenienced by something that should never have been allowed to happen or allow to get "out of Mallick's control".

However until everybody with balances held in their real names or corporate accounts that can prove their identity has been paid out, such praise is premature and will only offend people with funds still being held hostage.

I hope that if anybody loses money, it is only those who probably contributed to epassporte's demise with their multiple and fake accounts.

superdio · 10-05-2010, 06:56 PM

Forest · 10-05-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

for 6-7 years Epassporte made life a lot easier for an enormous amount of people. It was the best payment option available for many adult webmasters and the amount of people that used it is proof of that. It worked.

Unfortunately things outside of Chris's control brought the company down. It happens.

I'm sad to see it go.

But I want to be one of the first to say - THANK YOU CHRIS - for everything you did do and everything you tried to do for the people in this industry.

At the end of the day - you did a lot more then most and don't let the whinny babies get you down.

is that chris' ass your kissing in your avatar?

if so your nose is still brown.

MaDalton · 10-05-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop

As some pointed out at Krebs:

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/09/f...porte-edition/

the questions is who will be able to access the small amounts in VV - not Mallick, otherwise we would not have the problem now. they will be probably sitting at the bank forever

SleazyDream · 10-05-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest

is that chris' ass your kissing in your avatar?

if so your nose is still brown.

it's ok, i know you're new here - that's lensman... founder of GFY - kissing MY ass

DavieVegas · 10-05-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

for 6-7 years Epassporte made life a lot easier for an enormous amount of people. It was the best payment option available for many adult webmasters and the amount of people that used it is proof of that. It worked.

Unfortunately things outside of Chris's control brought the company down. It happens.

I'm sad to see it go.

But I want to be one of the first to say - THANK YOU CHRIS - for everything you did do and everything you tried to do for the people in this industry.

At the end of the day - you did a lot more then most and don't let the whinny babies get you down.

Your a fuckin idiot....Why are you still on gfy has been? You have nothing to do with this biz anymore and no one liked you when you were relevant and they do not now.

SleazyDream · 10-05-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

the questions is who will be able to access the small amounts in VV - not Mallick, otherwise we would not have the problem now. they will be probably sitting at the bank forever

it's probally in the contract after X amount of years it goes back to epassporte

wyldblyss · 10-05-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

for 6-7 years Epassporte made life a lot easier for an enormous amount of people. It was the best payment option available for many adult webmasters and the amount of people that used it is proof of that. It worked.

Unfortunately things outside of Chris's control brought the company down. It happens.

I'm sad to see it go.

But I want to be one of the first to say - THANK YOU CHRIS - for everything you did do and everything you tried to do for the people in this industry.

At the end of the day - you did a lot more then most and don't let the whinny babies get you down.

I'm not hating on you, I'm just confused. Chris did not start epassporte for the good of the industry, he started it for the good of himself...others happen to benefit because it was a service.

Chris did not follow the rules so the cards were deactivated. What rules he did not follow is still conjecture, but the fact is, had he kept all his ducks in a row, no one would be in this position.

My dad used to say "a right never makes up for a wrong"

SomeCreep · 10-05-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

so if the visa and remaining wallets eventually get paid out - is everyone here going to publicly apologize to Chris?

Or is everyone here ragging on Chris saying they were too dumb to know and understand that risk when they started using it?

damn dude, what planet are you living on?

Brad Mitchell · 10-05-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

maybe i'm missing something but what I saw was one day Epass was working and the next day it wasn't - visa option was pulled by the bank for unexplained reasons and frozen by them.

Suddenly everybody wanted everything out - and like all banking institutions, not everything would be instantly liquid so they stalled a bit on the wallets...

Some wallets got paid - some are supposedly in transit...the rumor is the visa's are operational on Thursday to withdraw money...

i don't think I'd be ragging on Chris for a least a few months

I haven't been ragging on anyone, I've been hopeful for resolution. Epassporte was NOT a bank. It was not their business to lend money. They took no real financial risk, there is no right to having any liquidity issue that would extend beyond a few months of admin or operating expense which probably could total no more than a few million excluding whatever salary or draws Chris had himself on.

There were hundreds of millions at play here annually, my guess anyway. The judge of this situation is the grand sum of unpaid dollars when the cards are turned over. The float and money on deposit belongs to the depositors, not the money transfer service in my opinion.. at most, less some amount of real operating expenses excluding owner pay. Businesses do fail, sure, but this is a different kind of business with a unique responsibility to its customers and a fee base that was risk adverse.

Brad

fris · 10-05-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mOrrI

Specially when hes doing another movie......

im sure it will fail just like middle men.

SleazyDream · 10-05-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I haven't been ragging on anyone, I've been hopeful for resolution. Epassporte was NOT a bank. It was not their business to lend money. They took no real financial risk, there is no right to having any liquidity issue that would extend beyond a few months of admin or operating expense which probably could total no more than a few million excluding whatever salary or draws Chris had himself on.

There were hundreds of millions at play here annually, my guess anyway. The judge of this situation is the grand sum of unpaid dollars when the cards are turned over. The float and money on deposit belongs to the depositors, not the money transfer service in my opinion.. at most, less some amount of real operating expenses excluding owner pay. Businesses do fail, sure, but this is a different kind of business with a unique responsibility to its customers and a fee base that was risk adverse.

Brad

i didn't mean you personally ragging - i meant most of the people on here in general

totally agree - but with another separate business like a bank involved they might not be ABLE to pay out till everything is settled...

will76 · 10-05-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

so if the visa and remaining wallets eventually get paid out - is everyone here going to publicly apologize to Chris?

what I saw online was the st kitts bank is activating the visa's on thursday......can anyone comment?

Virtually any adult (or any company for that matter) can have funds frozen for any number of reasons outside of their control....I mean I understand this hurt a lot of people, but it could happen to ANY company at any time. It's a risk we all took and new when we got the epassporte card. Or is everyone here ragging on Chris saying they were too dumb to know and understand that risk when they started using it?

keep digging, you are a pretty big guy. You still need to dig that hole deeper so you can fit yourself in it.

The way people handle situations say at a lot about their character. If he would have been making public statements, posting here to keep people informed vs taking vacations and producing movies people would have been a lot nicer to him through this process. It's not like the guy didn't post here in the past advertising his services, he should have came back to address people, given a statement, something instead of a "fuck you, i don't care... I will let Michael take the heat."

btw, you making posts trying to defend him just makes people hate him even more.

will76 · 10-05-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

maybe i'm missing something

a brain.

/thread

marketsmart · 10-05-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wyldblyss

I'm not hating on you, I'm just confused. Chris did not start epassporte for the good of the industry, he started it for the good of himself...others happen to benefit because it was a service.

Chris did not follow the rules so the cards were deactivated. What rules he did not follow is still conjecture, but the fact is, had he kept all his ducks in a row, no one would be in this position.

My dad used to say "a right never makes up for a wrong"

actually, epass was started to keep charge backs % in check..

visa goes by % of charge back transactions not $ amount...

epass was given to chris as a settlement of him leaving/pushed out of paycom..

chris made a lot of money with epass involvement in gaming transactions..

how much is anyone's guess..

the truth of this situation will come out sooner or later and regardless of how much chris has personally, i just hope that everyone that is owed money gets their money back...

.

Sly · 10-05-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

actually, epass was started to keep charge backs % in check..

visa goes by % of charge back transactions not $ amount...

epass was given to chris as a settlement of him leaving/pushed out of paycom..

chris made a lot of money with epass involvement in gaming transactions..

how much is anyone's guess..

the truth of this situation will come out sooner or later and regardless of how much chris has personally, i just hope that everyone that is owed money gets their money back...

.

You keep mentioning the truth about his push out from Epoch. Why not just share it?

fusionx · 10-05-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I don't know anything about anyone, but this is fucking funny!

wyldblyss · 10-05-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

actually, epass was started to keep charge backs % in check..

visa goes by % of charge back transactions not $ amount...

epass was given to chris as a settlement of him leaving/pushed out of paycom..

chris made a lot of money with epass involvement in gaming transactions..

how much is anyone's guess..

the truth of this situation will come out sooner or later and regardless of how much chris has personally, i just hope that everyone that is owed money gets their money back...

.

Not everyone will get their money back. There will most certainly be remnants and I am sure they will all add up to a pretty penny. I take it you respect Chris and who am I to tell a stranger who to respect and who not to respect. I don't know the guy, but I can tell you there were a lot of people who spent a lot of sleepless nights over this. No one likes trusting, and then having that trust broken. I am not sure what happened with Chris, but according to Visa epass was not in compliance.

I personally find it hard to feel sorry for someone that has caused so much heartache to so many people that could have been avoided if it were not for his greed (gambling, not bothering to do his due diligence, record keeping, money laundering or whatever it was). Not many people in this world have such great opportunities, and he totally blue it. Do I feel sorry for someone sitting on a beach in Cabo when people that trusted him went without food, couldn't pay their bills, had to lower their pride to borrow money from people to survive? No, I don't and I never will. Shit happens, but the measure of man is how deep in his own shit is he willing to wade to rescue those that got flooded by it. Chris didn't wade in his own shit, he took off to the beaches instead.

The Porn Nerd · 10-05-2010, 08:33 PM

Your money is still in motion...

USUALENT · 10-05-2010, 08:34 PM

sometimes its the principle the way things are done...

Atticus · 10-05-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

I don't know anything about anyone, but this is fucking funny!

Here ya go then...

www.sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahorse.com

xxweekxx · 10-05-2010, 09:04 PM

this is a dumb thread.. thank epassporte for fucking up?? if he kept his shit straight he wouldnt have had the cards disconnected/closed..

there are tons of visa debit cards.. how come none of them have problems?

marketsmart · 10-05-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

You keep mentioning the truth about his push out from Epoch. Why not just share it?

its not my place and if i didnt have a ton of respect for joel and clay i might feel differently...

if someone else wants to say what that know then so be it, but as for me, i will keep to myself regarding this....

.

marketsmart · 10-05-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wyldblyss

I take it you respect Chris and who am I to tell a stranger who to respect and who not to respect.

i do value what his business allowed me to do and i will leave it at that...

i will respect chris if he pays back what his company owes...

if he fails to pay back what he owes people then my opinion of him will be the same opinion i have towards any other scammer..

the dollar amount is not as important as doing the right thing...

chris would be crazy to fuck over so many people, but i have seen the same happen time and time again in this industry, so nothing would surprise me but i hold out hope that he will do the right thing and if he does step up to the plate then i dont think people should judge him harshly....

.

ffmihai · 10-05-2010, 09:48 PM

yes he spent 6-7 years in this business and then run away with peoples money. making a movie that its a lie. wtf is wrong with you man?

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